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ABM said:
"I do worry a bit about Roy at this point, though. Miller leading the team in shots while Roy gets 2 points will not translate into championships."

It just seemed like and odd comment.......based upon us drilling a scrub team?
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Maybe it is an odd comment. When was the last time Wade or Bryant scored 2 points in a game while the PG shot the ball 14 times, regardless of a win or a loss?
 
PapaG said:
Maybe it is an odd comment. When was the last time Wade or Bryant scored 2 points in a game while the PG shot the ball 14 times, regardless of a win or a loss?
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This isn't the first time you've harped on Miller's shot attempts. We won. Who cares who shot the ball?
 
Natebishop3 said:
This isn't the first time you've harped on Miller's shot attempts. We won. Who cares who shot the ball?
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I'm looking big picture. Sorry. Clearly there are still some issues between Roy/Miller in terms of maximizing the team's best player.
 
PapaG said:
I'm not concerned. I just noticed something and commented on it. I'm not sure why some people seem to be upset about it. :dunno:
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Before tonight, Brandon has had 105 FGAs this season while Andre has had 47 FGAs. And Roy has 32 more FGAs than LA, who is second. I think Miller knows who the man is on the team.
And some of Miller's shots come when Blake or Roy pass it to him with 2-3 seconds on the shot clock and he's forced to put up a real bad shot.
 
PapaG said:
I'm looking big picture. Sorry.
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Big picture:

If Aldridge puts up 19 and 10, Oden stays in the game, and our offense is flowing like it was tonight, I really don't care if Roy scores 2 points of 30. The only thing that matters is the "W" .
 
PapaG said:
Maybe it is an odd comment. When was the last time Wade or Bryant scored 2 points in a game while the PG shot the ball 14 times, regardless of a win or a loss?
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Garsh, ya got me there, Papa. :bored:
 
PapaG said:
Maybe it is an odd comment. When was the last time Wade or Bryant scored 2 points in a game while the PG shot the ball 14 times, regardless of a win or a loss?
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Roy's 6 assists tell me he had at least 6 more opportunities to score. He didn't take them. That's his deal. Wade and Kobe? They might take those shots instead, and "get theirs".

I'm going to copy and paste this response. Every time you bring up the same two stats, I'm going to post this. We both get to up our post count, and we both will be adding exactly the same amount of value to this conversation.

None.
 
I didn't watch the Blazers game live, recorded it so I could watch my Cowboys beat the Eagles. Great nite both my teams won! :)
 
Natebishop3 said:
Big picture:

If Aldridge puts up 19 and 10, Oden stays in the game, and our offense is flowing like it was tonight, I really don't care if Roy scores 2 points of 30. The only thing that matters is the "W" .
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This team is going nowhere if Brandon Roy is scoring 2 ppg.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
Roy's 6 assists tell me he had at least 6 more opportunities to score. He didn't take them. That's his deal. Wade and Kobe? They might take those shots instead, and "get theirs".

I'm going to copy and paste this response. Every time you bring up the same two stats, I'm going to post this. We both get to up our post count, and we both will be adding exactly the same amount of value to this conversation.

None.
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Um, OK. Yippee! The Blazers blew out the T-Pups! :cheers:
 
PapaG said:
This team is going nowhere if Brandon Roy is scoring 2 ppg.
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We're 1-0 this year when he scores 2 points. Extrapolate that out to the rest of the season, and we'll run the table if we can just keep Roy at 2ppg.
 
PapaG said:
This team is going nowhere if Brandon Roy is scoring 2 ppg.
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I disagree. I don't think Brandon Roy is quite as significant as you make him out to be. Is he an important cog? Absolutely. Does he help the team? Absolutely. Is he our All-Star? Yes. Do our championship hopes rest on his shoulders? NO.

I think our hopes of a title rest more on the shoulders of Greg Oden than on Brandon Roy.
 
I just have to say - THIS BOARD SUCKS. I come home from a 23-point win and what do I see in the game thread - someone BITCHING about the WAY we WON!

Fucking amazing. If you just read the last page of the game thread you'd think we lost by 23.

Anyone who isn't happy with this team or this win, I strongly encourage you to head on over to the Memphis Grizzlies board where you constant whining and complaining would be appropriate and justified. Some people seem to love being miserable. Why not switch your alliance to a franchise that will guarantee you the non-stop misery you crave?

BNM
 
PapaG said:
The team shot 2.5 more FTs than normal, and the post players combined for less than 20 shots. How is that "pounding the ball inside"?
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LaMarcus and Greg also combined for 12 free throw attempts in that span, certainly some of them were and-1s, but a lot of those have to be counted as shot attempts (and potential assists) if were talking about possessions intended to be scoring opportunities for the frontcourt. Even discounting the free throws, their 20 shots made up 43% of our starting unit's shot attempts. That works for me, when we have bigs like Greg and LaMarcus.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
We're 1-0 this year when he scores 2 points. Extrapolate that out to the rest of the season, and we'll run the table if we can just keep Roy at 2ppg.
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Totally ridiculous. Welcome to ignore. :cheers:
 
PapaG said:
This team is going nowhere if Brandon Roy is scoring 2 ppg.
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So, what were your Brandon concerns regarding the Spurs game, again?

Your sampling is very limited. I'd suggest you gather a bit more data on this perceived issue.
 
PapaG said:
Um, OK. Yippee! The Blazers blew out the T-Pups! :cheers:
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Yep, and with only 2 points from Roy! Good thing he got those 6 assists and 7 rebounds. Andre took a lot of shots, but he was wide open and assisted on at least two of them, so it's not like he was just chucking jumpers. Heck, Bayless was looking for his shot more than Andre. Good thing he was a machine out there!
 
Natebishop3 said:
I disagree. I don't think Brandon Roy is quite as significant as you make him out to be. Is he an important cog? Absolutely. Does he help the team? Absolutely. Is he our All-Star? Yes. Do our championship hopes rest on his shoulders? NO.

I think our hopes of a title rest more on the shoulders of Greg Oden than on Brandon Roy.
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I disagree with you. Roy is crucial to any championship in the future. Now what?
 
Boob-No-More said:
I just have to say - THIS BOARD SUCKS. I come home from a 23-point win and what do I see in the game thread - someone BITCHING about the WAY we WON!

Fucking amazing. If you just read the last page of the game thread you'd think we lost by 23.

Anyone who isn't happy with this team or this win, I strongly encourage you to head on over to the Memphis Grizzlies board where you constant whining and complaining would be appropriate and justified. Some people seem to love being miserable. Why not switch your alliance to a franchise that will guarantee you the non-stop misery you crave?

BNM
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Yes, but then you look at who it is, and you realize that the person is simply a troll.
 
Boob-No-More said:
I just have to say - THIS BOARD SUCKS. I come home from a 23-point win and what do I see in the game thread - someone BITCHING about the WAY we WON!

Fucking amazing. If you just read the last page of the game thread you'd think we lost by 23.

Anyone who isn't happy with this team or this win, I strongly encourage you to head on over to the Memphis Grizzlies board where you constant whining and complaining would be appropriate and justified. Some people seem to love being miserable. Why not switch your alliance to a franchise that will guarantee you the non-stop misery you crave?

BNM
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I pointed out a concern. I love the fact the team won. Perhaps you should post about Nate McMillan being a POS again and you'll feel better?
 
One of the best things we saw tonight was how deep we are. I think our second unit was as good as our starting unit tonight. Bayless, Rudy, Martell, Travis and Joel really got up and down the floor, made some exciting plays and really picked up where the starters left off. It was pretty good to see.
 
PapaG said:
I disagree with you. Roy is crucial to any championship in the future. Now what?
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I think he's crucial too. You made it sound like this team was screwed if Roy doesn't score. I think he proved tonight that he does more than score the basketball.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Yes, but then you look at who it is, and you realize that the person is simply a troll.
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How am I trolling? Should I start a bunch of threads about Nate needing to be fired? Would that make me "legit"? :devilwink:
 
PapaG said:
I'm looking big picture. Sorry. Clearly there are still some issues between Roy/Miller in terms of maximizing the team's best player.
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To be frank, the purpose of the Blazers isn't to maximize the numbers of their best player. It's to maximize wins.

Certainly, it seems unlikely that the team will be continuously successfully if Roy scores 2 PPG. It seems equally unlikely that Roy will continue scoring 2 PPG. Roy's numbers may take a hit, though, and the team could be even better.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I think he's crucial too. You made it sound like this team was screwed if Roy doesn't score. I think he proved tonight that he does more than score the basketball.
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I never said the team was screwed if Roy doesn't score. I commented on a ridiculous post at the team winning all of their games if Roy scores 2 ppg.

Christ. I like that the team beat one of the worst teams in the league. It was a good win and I hope they build upon it.
 
PapaG said:
How am I trolling? Should I start a bunch of threads about Nate needing to be fired? Would that make me "legit"? :devilwink:
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We won the game and you're in here harping on Miller again in your own special way. :devilwink:
 
Should mods actually be labeling posters who aren't trolling as "trolls"? Minstrel, what's your take on this?
 
PapaG said:
How am I trolling? Should I start a bunch of threads about Nate needing to be fired? Would that make me "legit"? :devilwink:
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Personally, I don't think you're trolling. I just think your concerns are a bit premature.......just as I thought those regarding Nate were, as well.
 
Minstrel said:
To be frank, the purpose of the Blazers isn't to maximize the numbers of their best player. It's to maximize wins and losses.

Certainly, it seems unlikely that the team will be continuously successfully if Roy scores 2 PPG. It seems equally unlikely that Roy will continue scoring 2 PPG. Roy's numbers may take a hit, though, and the team could be even better.
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Well put.

There was a stretch of 5 or 6 games last year where Roy was scoring 30 a game. Every time he scored 30 a game, we lost. It became a kind of jinx for a while. Then, Roy scored 42 or something like that, and we won. Roy joked that (paraphrasing) "all I have to do is score 40 every game now."

Roy scoring more, if the rest of the team is failing, doesn't help the Blazers. Likewise, Roy scoring 2, if the rest of the team is firing on all cylinders and creaming the opponent, doesn't hurt the Blazers. All that matters is the team's performance, and the score at the end of the game.
 
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