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I worked in the City for a while. London could be a grind, but I would get out to the countryside occasionally and always revel in its beauty. You'll have a wonderful time and I'm certain your kids will embrace it. You're giving them a marvelous experience.

My guess is your move will be permanent. Given your posts, I think you'll find England much more to your liking than Boise.
 
I worked in the City for a while. London could be a grind, but I would get out to the countryside occasionally and always revel in its beauty. You'll have a wonderful time and I'm certain your kids will embrace it. You're giving them a marvelous experience.

My guess is your move will be permanent. Given your posts, I think you'll find England much more to your liking than Boise.

How did those English girls like your American accent, Maxie? I bet they all dropped their knickers for you.
 
Idaho is cheap. England, even the small towns, are expensive. You mentioned housing already, which is insanely expensive compared to Idaho, but virtually everything costs more, sometimes a lot more.

The only thing that is less is medical care, but you pay in your time and in sophistication.

I like the feel of the small towns in some parts of England. Like all small towns it will get boring. Cricket matches for entertainment? At least the ale is good.

The climate wont be as good imo. Boise has a decent four seasons climate, with a lot of winter sun even if cold and great summers. England has blah weather with long stretches of no sun. The sawtooths I would miss.

Those are all pretty valid points, and nearly all of the things I've struggled with. I think there are a ton of positives as well, though. Easy access to Europe. London and all those awesome museums. English countryside. Really interesting culture and history. And of course a huge network of friends and family my wife has had to forego while living in the US. We have friends and family here as well, but overall I think it's a tighter-knit bunch over there.

I'll be out of my comfort zone, but as a pretty entitled person (white male, 40) who has lived in the same place 13 years, that's probably a good thing.

At the end of the day, though, it's not just about what I may or may not like. I have to think about what's best for wife and kids too. If it were just me, at this point it'd be a coin flip. But my wife has sucked it up for 13 years, and it's a massive opportunity for the kids.
 
I worked in the City for a while. London could be a grind, but I would get out to the countryside occasionally and always revel in its beauty. You'll have a wonderful time and I'm certain your kids will embrace it. You're giving them a marvelous experience.

My guess is your move will be permanent. Given your posts, I think you'll find England much more to your liking than Boise.

It's hard to say. My politics are more agreeable there, but life isn't just about politics. I'm generally a pretty happy, optimistic person in Idaho, though, and I doubt that will change much when I get there. Hard to say for sure, though. Happiness and optimism aren't really stereotypical English traits.

Somebody described being an American in England is like being the guy in the Hawaiian shirt who asks awkward questions at the funeral. I think about that a lot.
 
Make sure to wear a fanny pack every day and also make sure to expressly mention your fanny pack throughout the day.
 
Make sure to wear a fanny pack every day and also make sure to expressly mention your fanny pack throughout the day.

My wife actually used to wear one of those when I first met her. (We were backpacking around europe.) I made sure to admire her fine fanny pack loudly and often. It looked quite sizable on the outside, but surprisingly quite a tight fit when you opened it. Sometimes you could barely wedge a finger in there. She once got a light bulb stuck in there--man, was that some strange story. Anyway, it looked like hell from a purely aesthetic point of view, but man oh man was the inner lining awesome. I could play with that fanny pack all day.
 
It's hard to say. My politics are more agreeable there, but life isn't just about politics. I'm generally a pretty happy, optimistic person in Idaho, though, and I doubt that will change much when I get there. Hard to say for sure, though. Happiness and optimism aren't really stereotypical English traits.

Somebody described being an American in England is like being the guy in the Hawaiian shirt who asks awkward questions at the funeral. I think about that a lot.

I didn't mean politics, but rather the prevalent outlook on life in England rather than Idaho.

My feeling about being an American living in the UK (and I differentiate you living in England specifically, while London is more representative of the UK as a whole), is that they love to mock us because they want so badly to be us. We are unbound by class distinctions and just don't give a shit.
 
That's a funny stereotype, but i've heard they actually have better teeth than us. Like the best teeth in the world, actually.
 
I think they like our straight, white teeth better.

My wife finds American teeth kind of repulsive. At least the bleached white look. It's not really a natural color when you think about it. She also thinks we over-obsess about having absolutely perfectly straight teeth, and the demands it puts on teen girls. She's just one person, I know, but I've never met an Englishman who professed to be jealous of that look.

It's like saying they are jealous of our ability to create massive portions of food that result in 400lb people. England has its fatties (especially in the north) but it's got nuthin' on us. I'm definitely not going to be making a lot of teeth jokes there, if for no other reason that I don't want to expose myself to the deluge of fat jokes.
 
My wife finds American teeth kind of repulsive. At least the bleached white look. It's not really a natural color when you think about it. She also thinks we over-obsess about having absolutely perfectly straight teeth, and the demands it puts on teen girls. She's just one person, I know, but I've never met an Englishman who professed to be jealous of that look.

It's like saying they are jealous of our ability to create massive portions of food that result in 400lb people. England has its fatties (especially in the north) but it's got nuthin' on us. I'm definitely not going to be making a lot of teeth jokes there, if for no other reason that I don't want to expose myself to the deluge of fat jokes.

Also, they're much cooler with fighting than are we. I was amazed at how quickly disagreements could escalate into getting headbutted or punched. And then just as quickly to having your arm wrapped the person that punched you singing. Fuck, drinking in the UK is fun.

So, which football club will your kids support?
 
My feeling about being an American living in the UK (and I differentiate you living in England specifically, while London is more representative of the UK as a whole), is that they love to mock us because they want so badly to be us. We are unbound by class distinctions and just don't give a shit.

I don't get that sense that they mock us because they want to be us. I don't tend to mock somebody I personally want to emulate, do you? I don't mock my dad, good friends, Michael Jordan, Muhammed Ali, etc....

I think they mock us because they honestly find a lot of things we do pretty appalling and alien. I agree with them sometimes, and sometimes I don't.

I don't think London is representative of anything in the UK other than London itself. It's such a huge, weird, bustling, arrogant, fun, crowded, indifferent place. It's like saying New York City somehow represents part of me as an American living in Idaho. Only much moreso, because there's only one London while in the US we've got multiple mega-cities, each with competing egos and dynamics.

London seems like its own weird deal that drags the rest of the country around kind of where it wants.
 
Why are you moving to a small town and why that part of England? Why not a suburb of London? How will you make a living in a small town? Do you, as an American, have to get a work permit? Do your kids have dual-citizenship? They will be able to freely live and work anywhere in the EU right?
 
Also, they're much cooler with fighting than are we. I was amazed at how quickly disagreements could escalate into getting headbutted or punched. And then just as quickly to having your arm wrapped the person that punched you singing. Fuck, drinking in the UK is fun.

So, which football club will your kids support?

Man, my kids don't even know how to kick a soccer--er--football. I have no idea who I'll "support". (What a weird term, isn't it? Makes it sound like I'm taking up an office collection to keep David Beckham employed.)

I guess I'll figure out who is the Lakers version of football and pick a rival. Because fuck those assholes, whomever they are.
 
Your kids will most likely lead exponentially better lives because of this.
 
Why are you moving to a small town and why that part of England? Why not a suburb of London? How will you make a living in a small town? Do you, as an American, have to get a work permit? Do your kids have dual-citizenship? They will be able to freely live and work anywhere in the EU right?

I like the small town lifestyle. It's a 40 minute commute to London by train, so it's not bad. Kids are already dual citizens just by being born from a UK citizen, and can work anywhere in the EU when they get old enough. Unless they fuck euros or their progeny are born on UK soil, their kids can't be English though.

I'll be able to work in the UK after 30 days, which is very nice. My goal is to do marketing consulting, so if you know anybody who needs ecommerce/logos/websites/etc built, PM me and I'll forward my (evolving) LinkedIn page. I'll probably build a site at some point to market my services.

Everything at CookbookPeople.com I built, so it's a nice example of my ability from a conceptualizing/writing/design/development etc standpoint.
 
Your kids will most likely lead exponentially better lives because of this.

Thanks for saying that. I'm not sure it's true, but it's nice for you to say that.

That's the thing about life, you don't get to do things twice to see how it might have turned out if you don't do that Big Thing.
 
Also, they're much cooler with fighting than are we. I was amazed at how quickly disagreements could escalate into getting headbutted or punched. And then just as quickly to having your arm wrapped the person that punched you singing. Fuck, drinking in the UK is fun.

So, which football club will your kids support?

I have cousins and extended family south of Edinburgh (Great Grandpa emigrated to the States in 1910) and I got to stay with them for about 3 months when I was twenty years old ... you aint lying.
 
Man, my kids don't even know how to kick a soccer--er--football. I have no idea who I'll "support". (What a weird term, isn't it? Makes it sound like I'm taking up an office collection to keep David Beckham employed.)

I guess I'll figure out who is the Lakers version of football and pick a rival. Because fuck those assholes, whomever they are.

I think that means rooting for Man City over the Laker-esque Man United, right? Though when Simmons went through the exercise a few years ago, he ended up wanting to be a Spurs fan. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/060719_2
 
Enjoy your warm beers and cold pies. I'm jealous! Make sure you take advantage of lots of weekend trips. Try these guys for cheap flights, http://www.ryanair.com/en I used them in 2006 when I was last there. Saved tons.
 
I think that means rooting for Man City over the Laker-esque Man United, right? Though when Simmons went through the exercise a few years ago, he ended up wanting to be a Spurs fan. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/060719_2

Thanks for posting that. I kind of dig Simmons' choice of Tottenham Hotspur. Just the name sounds ridiculously anti-bandwagon. When some greasy chav sticks a saucy chip in my face and says, "Wahh, wankah, wot team do yew suppor'?!?"
if I can come back with "Tottenham Hotspur" in a cool, James Earl Jones kind of bad ass delivery, I will feel right proper. That little tosser will know I'm not just some dumb American throwing out "Arsenal" weakly.

Or maybe Sam L Jackson: TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR, MUTHAFUCKA. DO YOU DIG IT?

Yeah.

Thanks for helping me get that off the checklist. Now on to which ethnic group I will choose to hate. Pakistanis have taken a backseat to Polish lately....but Americans never go wrong by hating Americans. Hmm. Maybe pikeys. That's always a solid one.
 
Enjoy your warm beers and cold pies. I'm jealous! Make sure you take advantage of lots of weekend trips. Try these guys for cheap flights, http://www.ryanair.com/en I used them in 2006 when I was last there. Saved tons.

Yeah, we flew Ryan Air to Pisa on our honeymoon to check out the Cinque Tierra. Only time a plane lost my luggage, but damn was it cheap.

I just checked and it's about $500 to fly my whole family round trip next February from London/Stansted. Not bad.
 
Thanks for helping me get that off the checklist. Now on to which ethnic group I will choose to hate. Pakistanis have taken a backseat to Polish lately....but Americans never go wrong by hating Americans. Hmm. Maybe pikeys. That's always a solid one.

The self hating American thing sounds good. They'd probably like that you can laugh at yourself like that and don't act like the patriotic stereotype.
 
Thanks for posting that. I kind of dig Simmons' choice of Tottenham Hotspur. Just the name sounds ridiculously anti-bandwagon. When some greasy chav sticks a saucy chip in my face and says, "Wahh, wankah, wot team do yew suppor'?!?"
if I can come back with "Tottenham Hotspur" in a cool, James Earl Jones kind of bad ass delivery, I will feel right proper. That little tosser will know I'm not just some dumb American throwing out "Arsenal" weakly.

Or maybe Sam L Jackson: TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR, MUTHAFUCKA. DO YOU DIG IT?

Yeah.

Thanks for helping me get that off the checklist. Now on to which ethnic group I will choose to hate. Pakistanis have taken a backseat to Polish lately....but Americans never go wrong by hating Americans. Hmm. Maybe pikeys. That's always a solid one.

pikeys are an ethnic group?

The American hating American's thing is a bit too hipster. Now if you were moving from Brooklyn or Portland, yeah, go with the herd I guess.

How about going old school and having a fierce dig at the Irish. What good have those toads done anyway?
 
pikeys are an ethnic group?

The American hating American's thing is a bit too hipster. Now if you were moving from Brooklyn or Portland, yeah, go with the herd I guess.

How about going old school and having a fierce dig at the Irish. What good have those toads done anyway?

Pikey's are Irish gypsies similar to the Romani, and it's considered a slur. So yes, an ethnic group.
 
Pikey's are Irish gypsies similar to the Romani, and it's considered a slur. So yes, an ethnic group.

Pikey is a pejorative slang term used mainly in Britain[1][2] to refer to people who are of the Traveller Community. Pikey is also sometimes called a piker in the United States,[3] but a piker in Australia and New Zealand means someone who refuses to do something within a group.[4] It is not well received among Irish Travellers or Romanies, as it is considered an ethnic slur.[5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pikey

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3100 up, 443 down http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pikey#http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pikey# From the English "turnpike", the place where itinerent travellers and thieves would camp near a settlement.

Pikey is not a racial group, the term is used to describe anyone who lives in a caravan or shares the same values and "culture" of "the travelling community", and whose main sources of income are as follows:

Stealing cars, flogging roses in pubs for "childrens' charities", nicking lead off roofs, burgling garden sheds, blagging entry to old peoples house to rob them, doing dodgy tarmac jobs ("we've got some black stuff left over from a job up the road"), sometimes with mint imperials used as a substitute for white chippings, or, reportedly, using snow to lay slabs on when the sand ran out, stealing your bollocks if they weren't in a bag and anything else that's not nailed down and anything that is nailed down but will fit in the back of an untaxed Transit when nobody's looking.

Characterised by lurchers on a string, a unintelligible language that "isn't English, it isn't Irish, it's just Pikey" (source: Film: Snatch), a penchant for harecoursing, ketamine, lighter fuel, fighting in pubs and shopping at Lidl.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pikey
 
So yeah, I didn't think so. Pikeys can be Irish, can be English, or whatever else. They are designated by their lifestyle, predilection for crime, etc. not limited to one ethnic group, and particularly in the case of the Irish, a Pikey can be Irish and many are, but if you hate Irish, you hate more than just Pikeys. Pikeys are just a small subset of Irish living in England.
 
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The self hating American thing sounds good. They'd probably like that you can laugh at yourself like that and don't act like the patriotic stereotype.

Actually, it's kind of a pet peeve of mine that Americans are the only nationality in the world where you are literally expected to make some sort of disparaging remark about your country to prove you are "one of the good ones."

You'd never expect an English person to say something bad about England before trying to talk to a Russian. I get that we've pulled a few dick moves over the years, but it still rubs me the wrong way.
 

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