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MAS RipCity

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2nd from the right.
Apparently, thinks Oden and Bayless would benefit more from being in college due to, get this, "skill set". He cites Arizona not being a power last year as a reason why Bayless should have went back to Zona. :biglaugh:
Beating up on busters at OSU and Zona doesn't make either better. I'd personally rather these guys go up against LA, Pryz, Roy, and Rudy every day in practice.
Bayless would be getting plenty of run if either Nate wasn't his coach or in a different situation. And Greg is fucking starting in the NBA, how does that hurt development?
Ian Furness is doing a nice job hosting though, but lose the schmooze.
 
MAS RipCity said:
2nd from the right.
Apparently, thinks Oden and Bayless would benefit more from being in college due to, get this, "skill set". He cites Arizona not being a power last year as a reason why Bayless should have went back to Zona. :biglaugh:
Beating up on busters at OSU and Zona doesn't make either better. I'd personally rather these guys go up against LA, Pryz, Roy, and Rudy every day in practice.
Bayless would be getting plenty of run if either Nate wasn't his coach or in a different situation. And Greg is fucking starting in the NBA, how does that hurt development?
Ian Furness is doing a nice job hosting though, but lose the schmooze.
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I absolutely agree with him about Bayless.

He needed another season to develop. I wish more guys were like Brandon Roy...4 years and come into the league ready to play at a high level from day one.
 
Cake said:
I absolutely agree with him about Bayless.

He needed another season to develop. I wish more guys were like Brandon Roy...4 years and come into the league ready to play at a high level from day one.
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While more time in college would have helped the NBA teams that had to draft him.. I don't see how it would have helped Bayless as a player.

He is good enough to play in the NBA right now and clearly will get better playing experience in the NBA than in college.
 
We have a system that teams use to determine whether a player needs more "seasoning" - it's called the D-League. Even with the PG glut, we haven't sent Bayless down. End of Story.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
We have a system that teams use to determine whether a player needs more "seasoning" - it's called the D-League. Even with the PG glut, we haven't sent Bayless down. End of Story.
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That's not entirely true in Bayless's case. KP said he probably wasn't ever going down to the D-League b/c the skills he needed to learn were "playing with other great players". You can't do that in the D-League, or Summer League. You can only do that by showing in practice that you warrant the minutes when it counts.
 
BrianFromWA said:
That's not entirely true in Bayless's case. KP said he probably wasn't ever going down to the D-League b/c the skills he needed to learn were "playing with other great players". You can't do that in the D-League, or Summer League. You can only do that by showing in practice that you warrant the minutes when it counts.
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Bayless has shown me enough to believe on most other teams, he'd be getting 20+ mpg. My guess is we're going to clear the decks at PG either sometime this season or this offseason and Bayless will step into the starting lineup.
 
I've watched that show a few times and have only lasted 5-10 minutes. It's a mess and gets boring quick.
 
BrianFromWA said:
That's not entirely true in Bayless's case. KP said he probably wasn't ever going down to the D-League b/c the skills he needed to learn were "playing with other great players". You can't do that in the D-League, or Summer League. You can only do that by showing in practice that you warrant the minutes when it counts.
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You sound like you're disagreeing with me when you're actually agreeing with me (get that trick from my wife? :biglaugh:). If he needs to learn to "play with other great players", then he is ready to not play in college any more. (Which was my point.)

Actually, I would say Bayless is more ready that Bargnani: "Andrea Bargnani is more mystery than a mainstay on a Raptors team that continues to draw closer to either being tweaked or completely overhauled." (Toronto Sun)
 
I was going off of the quote
We have a system that teams use to determine whether a player needs more "seasoning" - it's called the D-League. Even with the PG glut, we haven't sent Bayless down. End of Story.
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It sounded like you were saying that since we haven't sent him down, he doesn't need more seasoning. I disagreed b/c the "seasoning" he needs he won't learn in college or in Idaho. But that doesn't mean he's ready. So in the context of "college won't help him", I agree with you. That wasn't the conclusion I originally drew.

Personally, I'd like to see him start like Batum does, get 15 minutes guaranteed, and stay in if he's playing well. Since that definitely won't happen with Blake here and healthy, it's kind of a moot point until something else around here changes.
 
BeerBoy said:
I've watched that show a few times and have only lasted 5-10 minutes. It's a mess and gets boring quick.
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The only guy who has half of a clue is Dwight Jaynes, beyond that I get better "Talkin' Ball" drinking beer with my buddies after a game.
 
Pasero is awful, just plain awful and i don't care who his daddy is. he gets lost and adds nothing to that show, which really drags it down. if you're going with a two/three man panel each has to carry their own weight. get that dead weight off the show.
 
Isn't the primary purpose of enrolling at one of America's great universities to graduate? It's sad that many universities have developed this sidelight, of running for-profit pro sports develpment camps.
 
webster said:
Isn't the primary purpose of enrolling at one of America's great universities to graduate?
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it's never been the primary purpose for everyone who enrolls. Lots of students take just a few classes and don't pursue a degree. I'd say more of a primary purpose for most is to prepare the student for a career after school.
It's sad that many universities have developed this sidelight, of running for-profit pro sports develpment camps.
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If college sports programs weren't making money, lots of students without a tiny chance of having a pro sports career would not have been able to enroll and benefit from a college experience. Getting top recruits (like Greg and Jerryd) who leave prior to graduating excites the alums and generates dollars for this to happen. Sure not everything is perfect in every way with the current system, but to say it is sad misses the big picture

btw... welcome to the board :)

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bigbailes said:
Pasero is awful, just plain awful and i don't care who his daddy is. he gets lost and adds nothing to that show, which really drags it down. if you're going with a two/three man panel each has to carry their own weight. get that dead weight off the show.
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He does serve one function as a foil for everyone else on the panel; they gets to smirk and roll their eyes every time he makes a statement or asks a question. I thought it was pretty funny the other night when Jaynes slapped his forehead after a particularly stupid Pasero comment, and Geoffrey Arnold just kind of got this glazed look on his face apparently trying to think of a semi-diplomatic way to call him in idjit. So the show isn't completely devoid entertainment.
 
Just found out the other day when I was watching it that Pasero is the executive editor of Brainstorm NW (a.k.a. Brainwash NW). That explains why the guy is such a moron.

-Pop
 
Pasero's on the program not because he's an expert on sports (he's not) but to make the program interesting and get noticed. He's playing his role well.
 
How is he playing his role well if I have never heard of him? Not that I am all knowledgeable one, but I don't live under a rock either.
 
It's a good concept and all to have discussion on the game immediately afterward, but the people on the show suck... really bad.
It's not interesting, and it's just like watching guys at the bar after the game talking about the game. I have no desire to watch that.. There's just not enough media personalities to do that type of show here, unless they tried to do it PTI style with topics listed on the side and a countdown clock for each topic to spice it up.
 
passero adds intelligent insight and analysis. i'm glad he's there.He's also a strong counterpoint to jaynes.keep it up,jim.
 
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