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One thing's for sure: as long as we're tanking, Chauncey's job is safe. I don't think I'll be happy if he lasts into next season, though.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
As I said earlier, just about every player in the first round other than the top 2 is a wing, which kind of sucks for us. I guess if I had to choose right now, Jarace Walker sounds like a healthy Justise Winslow type, in that he can play PF and plays good defense.
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Hollinger has an article out today about how scouts are not excited about anybody in the draft outside of the top two. The only reason the Blazers would have any interest in maintaining their draft pick this year is so they might be able to trade it.
 
If we lost 70% of our games left (also plausible because we have a lot of injuries), we have decent odds of having the fifth worst record. I'll take those odds for VW. (I also just bought a VW EV, so I'm even more onboard to land VW)
 
Loyalty4Life said:
If we lost 70% of our games left (also plausible because we have a lot of injuries), we have decent odds of having the fifth worst record. I'll take those odds for VW. (I also just bought a VW EV, so I'm even more onboard to land VW)
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The math is not your friend. The 5th spot will get you a 10.5% chance of getting the top pick, and around a 55% chance of picking 6-9.
 
e_blazer said:
The math is not your friend. The 5th spot will get you a 10.5% chance of getting the top pick, and around a 55% chance of picking 6-9.
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And that leaves 35% of 2-5. Add the 10% to that and you have 45% of a top 5 pick.
This is by design.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
And that leaves 35% of 2-5. Add the 10% to that and you have 45% of a top 5 pick.
This is by design.
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Of course. The current system is designed to give the worst teams decent picks, but not enough certainty that somewhat better teams will be encouraged to tank. In a draft where only the top couple of picks are viewed as can’t miss, throwing away a shot at the playoffs makes minimal sense, especially when your best player is 32 years old.
 
e_blazer said:
Of course. The current system is designed to give the worst teams decent picks, but not enough certainty that somewhat better teams will be encouraged to tank. In a draft where only the top couple of picks are viewed as can’t miss, throwing away a shot at the playoffs makes minimal sense, especially when your best player is 32 years old.
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I agree. Never been a fan at all of trying to lose.
 
e_blazer said:
Of course. The current system is designed to give the worst teams decent picks, but not enough certainty that somewhat better teams will be encouraged to tank. In a draft where only the top couple of picks are viewed as can’t miss, throwing away a shot at the playoffs makes minimal sense, especially when your best player is 32 years old.
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I'll just take what odds we can get. It's the best prospect since LeBron.
 
e_blazer said:
The math is not your friend. The 5th spot will get you a 10.5% chance of getting the top pick, and around a 55% chance of picking 6-9.
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He didn’t say otherwise. Reading comprehension is not your friend. He just he’d like the odds we get if we’re in 5th spot.
 
Loyalty4Life said:
I'll just take what odds we can get. It's the best prospect since LeBron.
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I understand that sentiment, but it comes at the expense of one of Dame's potential remaining playoff years. He already posted that there's "no way" he's on board with tanking. If Cronin is ready to move on from Dame next summer, sure, go ahead and piss of your star and then get the best package for him that you can in order to rebuild quicker.
 
e_blazer said:
And I just said that the math says you have a better chance of getting a later pick than a better one. Nothing I wrote could be interpreted as snark. Yours on the other hand...
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That’s not what you said. And “math is not your friend” was snark. Nothing he said was untrue.
 
LayneStaley said:
I think the weakness is he looks like he’s walking around on a couple of number 2 pencils. After Chet getting hurt(similar body type) my concern is health. Can you imagine if we won the lottery and the big man curse hit again.
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Probably the only way we win the lottery.
 
KingSpeed said:
That’s not what you said. And “math is not your friend” was snark. Nothing he said was untrue.
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That's a statement of fact which you misinterpreted as snark. The best the Blazers could reasonably get to in tanking is the 5th worst record. That gets you less than a coin flip's chance at a top 5 pick.
 
e_blazer said:
I understand that sentiment, but it comes at the expense of one of Dame's potential remaining playoff years. He already posted that there's "no way" he's on board with tanking. If Cronin is ready to move on from Dame next summer, sure, go ahead and piss of your star and then get the best package for him that you can in order to rebuild quicker.
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Of course, Joe could meet with Dame and Jody and agree to tank. You don’t tank without getting Dame onboard. He says no way now but you could change his mind. Also- if we acquire top talent in draft, Dame’s title window will be longer, not shorter.
 
e_blazer said:
That's a statement of fact which you misinterpreted as snark. The best the Blazers could reasonably get to in tanking is the 5th worst record. That gets you less than a coin flip's chance at a top 5 pick.
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He said it as a positive. 10% is better than 1%. Get the best odds we can get. “The math is not your friend” is not fact.
 
KingSpeed said:
He said it as a positive. 10% is better than 1%. Get the best odds we can get.
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The way I see it, Cronin is at a fork in the road. Build around Dame with experienced, playoff-ready, vets, or do a full rebuild around the young guys. He can’t straddle the fence. I expect him to trade a couple of firsts and a player or two for someone who really improves the top-end experienced talent. That’s what Dame deserves. Wembanyama is likely going to be a monster…in 3 years or so.
 
e_blazer said:
I understand that sentiment, but it comes at the expense of one of Dame's potential remaining playoff years. He already posted that there's "no way" he's on board with tanking. If Cronin is ready to move on from Dame next summer, sure, go ahead and piss of your star and then get the best package for him that you can in order to rebuild quicker.
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I hear you and I agree. I just believe by nature of our injuries we'll be in 5th place from the bottom. No tanking is needed.
 
Im sorry, but im sooo dissapointed in you 180% change @KingSpeed . I mean i get wanting a good draft pick. But you have fallen so hard for tanking, its just hard to fathom the most positive poster here wanting them to lose.
Now, im just gonna point a couple things out…

KingSpeed said:
He didn’t say otherwise. Reading comprehension is not your friend. He just he’d like the odds we get if we’re in 5th spot.
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KingSpeed said:
We don’t have try to lose. Just don’t try to win. How do you think Dallas got Luka and Memphis got Ja?
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Optimal reading comprehension requires clearly articulated words to read. Just sayin…
 
KingSpeed said:
That’s not what you said. And “math is not your friend” was snark. Nothing he said was untrue.
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he didn't say “math is not your friend”, he said “THE math is not your friend.”
Huge difference.
And then you comment on reading comprehension???
Thats classic!!!!
 
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