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julius said:
You know, NBA conspiracies can be fun...but also maddening.

For example, if the NBA had to pick (of the teams in the lotto) a team for VM to go to, wouldn't you think it'd be the Spurs?

Model franchise, stable history and strong fan support.

But if the league wanted VM to go to a city/team where they'd know he'd be around a solid pro who hasn't once let the league down and is a model player, it'd be Portland and being around Damian.

That said, I bet the #1 pick is going to Charlotte or Houston.

OR it'll be like when Cleveland got like 3 #1 picks in 4 years, and they'll give it to New Orleans to make up for Zion being injury prone. (as if Portland knows nothing about that)


I'm not really being that serious
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Who is VM?
 
julius said:
You know, NBA conspiracies can be fun...but also maddening.

For example, if the NBA had to pick (of the teams in the lotto) a team for VM to go to, wouldn't you think it'd be the Spurs?

Model franchise, stable history and strong fan support.

But if the league wanted VM to go to a city/team where they'd know he'd be around a solid pro who hasn't once let the league down and is a model player, it'd be Portland and being around Damian.

That said, I bet the #1 pick is going to Charlotte or Houston.

OR it'll be like when Cleveland got like 3 #1 picks in 4 years, and they'll give it to New Orleans to make up for Zion being injury prone. (as if Portland knows nothing about that)


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it's funny how narratives change. I remember for the first couple months of the season people talking about how the Pelicans had a good shot at using the Laker's pick to land VW because of the pick swap they owned. But as of today, the lakers pick is worse than the Pels pick and the Pels could lose that pick swap for good. And if the lakers have a healthy season next year, the Pels might only be getting a 1st in the 20's. New Orleans might not get nearly as much for the AD trade as people originally assumed
 
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wizenheimer said:
it's funny how narratives change. I remember for the first couple months of the season people talking about how the Pelicans had a good shot at using the Laker's pick to land VM because of the pick swap they owned. But as of today, the lakers pick is worse than the Pels pick and the Pels could lose that pick swap for good. And if the lakers have a healthy season next year, the Pels might only be getting a 1st in the 20's. New Orleans might not get nearly as much for the AD trade as people originally assumed
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And if Zion keeps being injured, they're screwed
 
Is this another draft where there is a top 3 and after that, the next tier of players is a step below?
Who are the top 7 we are hoping for? (On paper I am intrigued with Jarace Walker, but I have yet to see him play except for a few highlights)

https://www.tankathon.com/big_board
 
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LayneStaley said:
I kinda want number 3 and the kid from Bama, think he’s legit and will start immediately. Wemby scares the fuck out of me, 7’6 pencil legs for the Portland Trail Blazers, what could go wrong?
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Kind of an Oden/Durant do-over, but this time we get the sweet shooting forward and someone else gets the center with the wonky knees?
 
I would not draft Wemby!
Victor was sidelined from December 12, 2020, to March 13, 2021, due to a fibula stress fracture he sustained while still playing for Espoirs Nanterre. Victor had previously suffered from a fractured finger, which required him to miss the action from 6 November to 2 December 2021.
 
We'll have our crack team of draft analysts handle it.
They will work so hard they might need a break.
Hopefully they don't argue and fracture their committee.
Especially if they are split on their opinions.
In all, I think they have a good supporting cast.
 
wizenheimer said:
thanks for clarifications

I'm not sure what this means though: "The Blazers are 2 wins ahead of Orlando, but since they play each other if the Blazers lose out they are only one Orlando win behind"

if the Blazers lose out and Orlando wins one of their 10 remaining games, Blazers are not tied for 5th; Orlando would be 30-52, Blazers 31-51. I must be missing your logic there
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If Orlando wins one game against their non Blazers opponent, and the Blazers lose out (including one loss to Orlando), then at worst Orlando would have two more wins than they do today and thus both teams would be tied.

So excluding Blazers games, we are hoping for one Orlando win and then the Blazers control their destiny for at least a share of the 5th spot.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
If Orlando wins one game against their non Blazers opponent, and the Blazers lose out (including one loss to Orlando), then at worst Orlando would have two more wins than they do today and thus both teams would be tied.

So excluding Blazers games, we are hoping for one Orlando win and then the Blazers control their destiny for at least a share of the 5th spot.
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There will be some kind of tie breaker, and the Magic would somehow win it.
 
Chris Craig said:
There will be some kind of tie breaker, and the Magic would somehow win it.
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There is no tie breaker for the ping pong balls, both teams split them. At 5 and 6 it's more likely one of the teams is in the top4. If both teams are outside the top 4 a coin toss determines the tiebreaker.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
There is no tie breaker for the ping pong balls, both teams split them. At 5 and 6 it's more likely one of the teams is in the top4. If both teams are outside the top 4 a coin toss determines the tiebreaker.
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Ok
 
Indiana played some crappy basketball down the stretch and chocked away a victory in Charlotte.
This shows how important it is that Indiana does have one more victory than the Trail Blazers.
 
theprunetang said:
Indy fans are probably asking the same question about us right now.
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Two years in a row isn't really continuous.... and Dame was out last year.

This year we haven't been able to stay healthy either... although I think it was a stealth tank for quite a while.
 
Natebishop3 said:
How is it that Indiana is continuously this bad?
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The Pacers have had 2 bad seasons in the last 14 seasons (by "bad" I mean winning %'s under 40%). I don't know if I'd consider 2 years continuously.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
If Orlando wins one game against their non Blazers opponent, and the Blazers lose out (including one loss to Orlando), then at worst Orlando would have two more wins than they do today and thus both teams would be tied.

So excluding Blazers games, we are hoping for one Orlando win and then the Blazers control their destiny for at least a share of the 5th spot.
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huh?....Portland doesn't play Orlando

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Chris Craig said:
Ok
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Actually, the tie-breakers are conducted before the lottery.
In 2021, the Thunder and Cavaliers tied for the 4th worst record in the NBA.
The Thunder won the "coin toss," which was reported to really be determined by ping pong balls.
The Thunder and Cavaliers still shared the same odds in the lottery.


The tie breaker became moot when the Cavaliers won the 3rd pick in the lottery.

The Thunder ended up with the 6th pick after the Cavaliers and Raptors jumped ahead of them.
 
Hoopguru said:
I would not draft Wemby! Victor was sidelined from December 12, 2020, to March 13, 2021, due to a fibula stress fracture he sustained while still playing for Espoirs Nanterre. Victor had previously suffered from a fractured finger, which required him to miss the action from 6 November to 2 December 2021.
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so by this logic, should the Bulls have cut bait on MJ after he broke his foot in year 2?

Every single player suffers injuries, but not all injuries are equal. When evaluating a prospect from that front, broken bones in years past aren't nearly the red flag that ligament injuries to knees, feet and back are. I'd expect any team with a clue would have it's medical experts evaluating body mechanics to determine how well various prospects are put together. Are their legs the same length, is their spine straight etc... I truly don't know what sort of access teams have in evaluating a prospect (a full body MRI for all to look at would be nice), but it's pretty silly to be siting a broken finger and being out less then a month as a reason not to draft someone.

STOMP
 
STOMP said:
so by this logic, should the Bulls have cut bait on MJ after he broke his foot in year 2?

Every single player suffers injuries, but not all injuries are equal. When evaluating a prospect from that front, broken bones in years past aren't nearly the red flag that ligament injuries to knees, feet and back are. I'd expect any team with a clue would have it's medical experts evaluating body mechanics to determine how well various prospects are put together. Are their legs the same length, is their spine straight etc... I truly don't know what sort of access teams have in evaluating a prospect (a full body MRI for all to look at would be nice), but it's pretty silly to be siting a broken finger and being out less then a month as a reason not to draft someone.

STOMP
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It's the Blazers we are talking about. More concerned about that fibula.
 
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