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That tall French guy puts in a lot of work and preparation. I always like to see that in a franchise type player.
 
JoeCro has been getting young players almost exclusively, so the writing is on the wall -I know what will happen.

/start
Blazers trade Dame for Wemby.
Wemby, Grant, pick 7, Ant, Sharp make an exciting young team.
Wemby, a Blazers big man, gets severely injured after 1 year.
Blazers limp along for a few years.
/restart
Blazers trade Sharp for an exciting young big man....

Just part of the cycle of being a Blazers fan.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
JoeCro has been getting young players almost exclusively, so the writing is on the wall -I know what will happen.

/start
Blazers trade Dame for Wemby.
Wemby, Grant, pick 7, Ant, Sharp make an exciting young team.
Wemby, a Blazers big man, gets severely injured after 1 year.
Blazers limp along for a few years.
/restart
Blazers trade Sharp for an exciting young big man....

Just part of the cycle of being a Blazers fan.
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I don't think many, if any, teams would trade Wemby for Dame. Dame is 32 and getting PAID. Any team getting the number 1 this year is going to need more than Dame to be a factor (see: Portland).
 
Ed O said:
I don't think many, if any, teams would trade Wemby for Dame. Dame is 32 and getting PAID. Any team getting the number 1 this year is going to need more than Dame to be a factor (see: Portland).
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That does raise an interesting question though--which lotto teams (presumably ones with worse odds than ours) would be interested in trading a package including an unexpected top-4 pick for Dame?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
That does raise an interesting question though--which lotto teams (presumably ones with worse odds than ours) would be interested in trading a package including an unexpected top-4 pick for Dame?
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Fun question. The bolded teams below are my guesses. Two of the final six listed won't be in the lottery, of course.

1. Detroit (17-65 - 14.0% odds to win NBA draft lottery)
2. San Antonio (22-60 - 14.0%)
3. Houston (22-60 - 14.0%)
4. Charlotte (27-55 - 12.5%)
5. Portland (33-49 - 10.5%)
6. Orlando (34-48 - 9%)
T7. Washington (35-47)
T7. Indiana (35-47)
9. Utah (37-45 - 4.5%)
10. Dallas (38-44 - 3.0%)
Minnesota Timberwolves
New Orleans Pelicans
Toronto Raptors
Chicago Bulls
Oklahoma City Thunder
Miami Heat

It's hard to guess without looking more deeply at contracts/salary cap situations than I have time/inclination to do at the moment, but it makes intuitive sense for all the borderline teams to be more willing to give up a high lottery pick for Dame. I don't see Dallas, at least, trading Wemby, though, and there might be other teams that feel the same way if the gap between him and the rest of the draft is as large as it seems to be.
 
Ed O said:
Fun question. The bolded teams below are my guesses. Two of the final six listed won't be in the lottery, of course.

1. Detroit (17-65 - 14.0% odds to win NBA draft lottery)
2. San Antonio (22-60 - 14.0%)
3. Houston (22-60 - 14.0%)
4. Charlotte (27-55 - 12.5%)
5. Portland (33-49 - 10.5%)
6. Orlando (34-48 - 9%)
T7. Washington (35-47)
T7. Indiana (35-47)
9. Utah (37-45 - 4.5%)
10. Dallas (38-44 - 3.0%)
Minnesota Timberwolves
New Orleans Pelicans
Toronto Raptors
Chicago Bulls
Oklahoma City Thunder
Miami Heat

It's hard to guess without looking more deeply at contracts/salary cap situations than I have time/inclination to do at the moment, but it makes intuitive sense for all the borderline teams to be more willing to give up a high lottery pick for Dame. I don't see Dallas, at least, trading Wemby, though, and there might be other teams that feel the same way if the gap between him and the rest of the draft is as large as it seems to be.
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God it would be hilarious if Dame reunited with CJ.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
That does raise an interesting question though--which lotto teams (presumably ones with worse odds than ours) would be interested in trading a package including an unexpected top-4 pick for Dame?
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So when you say top 4 I assume that means excluding the #1 pick but we could land Scoot?


Minnesota would ....but we don't want their shit contracts in return. (at least I don't)
Chicago....has nothing of value I want for Dame
Toronto might
Dallas would if they lost Kyrie but they no longer have any assets to trade
OKC-doubtful
Utah-probably
Miami-possibly
 
PtldPlatypus said:
That does raise an interesting question though--which lotto teams (presumably ones with worse odds than ours) would be interested in trading a package including an unexpected top-4 pick for Dame?
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The Washington Wizards?
 
I could see Orlando or Houston consider trading for Dame, they each have a lot of high lottery talent already on the roster and might have owners getting impatient with additional young draft picks.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
I could see Orlando or Houston consider trading for Dame, they each have a lot of high lottery talent already on the roster and might have owners getting impatient with additional young draft picks.
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That would be doing Damian a huge disservice (and yes I realize the team needs to do whats best for them and not necessarily him).

But what would make Damian willing to go to Orlando or Houston if he doesn't want to stay in Portland around youth??
 
julius said:
That would be doing Damian a huge disservice (and yes I realize the team needs to do whats best for them and not necessarily him).

But what would make Damian willing to go to Orlando or Houston if he doesn't want to stay in Portland around youth??
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An owner that doesn't pinch pennies and cut salary every chance she gets.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
An owner that doesn't pinch pennies and cut salary every chance she gets.
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it seems people confuse being smart about not paying the repeater tax with penny pinching. As if people don't realize the massive penalties the team would pay if they had stayed above the repeated offended threshold.

  • $0-5MM above tax line: $2.50 per dollar (up to $12.5MM).
  • $5-10MM above tax line: $2.75 per dollar (up to $13.75MM).
  • $10-15MM above tax line: $3.50 per dollar (up to $17.5MM).
  • $15-20MM above tax line: $4.25 per dollar (up to $21.25MM).
Considering how bad the team was, it's a no brainer as to why they'd want to stay out of it.
 
julius said:
it seems people confuse being smart about not paying the repeater tax with penny pinching. As if people don't realize the massive penalties the team would pay if they had stayed above the repeated offended threshold.

  • $0-5MM above tax line: $2.50 per dollar (up to $12.5MM).
  • $5-10MM above tax line: $2.75 per dollar (up to $13.75MM).
  • $10-15MM above tax line: $3.50 per dollar (up to $17.5MM).
  • $15-20MM above tax line: $4.25 per dollar (up to $21.25MM).
Considering how bad the team was, it's a no brainer as to why they'd want to stay out of it.
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The Blazers are nowhere close to having to pay repeater tax. When would they possibly have to first pay, 2028? They could've kept and resigned Hart without having to worry about repeater tax. Instead they pocketed cash savings. They avoided adding other salary in trades for next season again for cash savings.

They hired inexpensive inexperienced GM and President, they won't pay for a gleague team. So it's not only luxury tax. The Blazers priorite cash savings above building a competitive basketball franchise.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
I could see Orlando or Houston consider trading for Dame, they each have a lot of high lottery talent already on the roster and might have owners getting impatient with additional young draft picks.
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Orlando may have the #7 and #12 Lottery picks.
 
julius said:
That would be doing Damian a huge disservice (and yes I realize the team needs to do whats best for them and not necessarily him).

But what would make Damian willing to go to Orlando or Houston if he doesn't want to stay in Portland around youth??
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Rather send him to OKC for a shit ton of picks and a couple young guys.
 
Landing the #1 pick would all but guarantee that we go young IMO.

Build around Sharpe and Wemby.

Easy decision. Neil made it impossible to build around Dame.
 
Fez Forthright said:
Landing the #1 pick would all but guarantee that we go young IMO.

Build around Sharpe and Wemby.

Easy decision. Neil made it impossible to build around Dame.
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I always expected that the plan was to tank and go young around Dame back in 2016 but Dame had other ideas and got us into the playoffs. We weren't supposed to be a good team that first year after LMA left.
 
Mediocre Man said:
They’ll also riot if we trade Dame
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Eh.... I'm not so sure. Maybe the truly casual fans, but I think a lot of people understand that Dame is getting older and we are a very bad team.

A lot more people are coming around to the idea of trading him than there were a couple years ago.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Eh.... I'm not so sure. Maybe the truly casual fans, but I think a lot of people understand that Dame is getting older and we are a very bad team.

A lot more people are coming around to the idea of trading him than there were a couple years ago.
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It feels to me that the casual fans I talk to are the one most comfortable trading Dame vs the die-hard NBA people who get how difficult it is to replace/fill the void of a top 75 all-time player.
 
Tince said:
It feels to me that the casual fans I talk to are the one most comfortable trading Dame vs the die-hard NBA people who get how difficult it is to replace/fill the void of a top 75 all-time player.
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We traded Drexler and were back in the WCF in just a few years. And that Drexler trade was fucking awful.
 
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