OT Teacher Fights Student

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I am telling a human how never to respond to insults. Skin color and the specific insult don't enter into the equation.

That's like rich person who got rich through inheritance telling poor people they should just work harder.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

The point is and you said it yourself, there is no equivalent for white people of being called the N-bomb. So you can't relate to the experience and shouldn't dictate what a black person's reaction would be.

An equivalent to an N-bomb is irrelevant. Words are words. They cannot equal physical violence.

By your logic, if the teacher had murdered the student, we would have no right to declare it wrong. Your logic is ridiculous.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Words are never worthy of a violent response. Period.

If someones words are causing me stress, which is thought to shorten lifespan, is that not an attack on my physical being?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

That's like rich person who got rich through inheritance telling poor people they should just work harder.

No--it would be like a rich person who got rich through inheritance telling poor people that they shouldn't steal, because nobody should steal, regardless of their circumstances, just like nobody should respond to words with violence, regardless of the situation.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

An equivalent to an N-bomb is irrelevant. Words are words. They cannot equal physical violence.

By your logic, if the teacher had murdered the student, we would have no right to declare it wrong. Your logic is ridiculous.

Murder is wrong. Beating someone up for being a little shit, IMO, is justified.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

If someones words are causing me stress, which is thought to shorten lifespan, is that not an attack on my physical being?

Is that an honest question, or just a ridiculous devil's advocate position?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

In addition to being dehumanized by being called the N-Word, he was also assaulted prior to him beating the little shithead up.

Totally.
Justified.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Murder is wrong. Beating someone up for being a little shit, IMO, is justified.

Oh, subjective morality. Great. In your opinion, beating someone up is justified. In someone else's opinion, stabbing them is justified. Who's to say who is right, eh?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Oh, subjective morality. Great. In your opinion, beating someone up is justified. In someone else's opinion, stabbing them is justified. Who's to say who is right, eh?

We need the good ol days, where people got knocked out for being an asshole to someone.

 

[dviss1]

5 words:

I wish a muthafucka would...

I WISH a teacher WOULD put their hands on my kid...

 

[3RA1N1AC]

nobody should steal, regardless of their circumstances

What if you notice your super depressed kid has a gun in their room. You probably should steal it, for their safety.

 

[barfo]

My position on this is that I'm happy I'm not a teacher.

barfo

 

[Strenuus]

The greatest part is @EL PRESIDENTE is the only one who has brought up he was called a racist slur, and then told @PtldPlatypus , who never brought race into it and only talked about the actual act of violence as an adult as being nasty (no race indicated), that he was "whitesplaning".

El pres, my man, in that argument you cast it onto him. Platy was talking about human beings. You were bringing up race and attributed it falsely to him. That's not fair to platy.

I could extrapolate that out to someone who we all know, but I will digress.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Is that an honest question, or just a ridiculous devil's advocate position?

YES

 

[PtldPlatypus]

What if you notice your super depressed kid has a gun in their room. You probably should steal it, for their safety.

Legally obtained? I don't have a right to take anything they have purchased. Confront? Yes. Steal? No.

Under 18? Confiscation of their possessions is my right as a parent. Over 18, but not obtained legally? Probably let the police intervene.

Theft is wrong.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

YES

Then I'll just answer "No, stress-inducing words are not a physical attack" and leave it at that. You're intelligent enough to understand the difference.

If you can't figure it out and really want to discuss it further, you're welcome to PM me.

 

[Chris Craig]

You are telling a black person how he should react to being called an N-bomb.

No. We are commenting on how an adult should react to a kid

 

[Chris Craig]

Are you black?

Are you?

 

[Chris Craig]

You are telling a black person how he should react to being called an N-bomb.

Are you?

 

[Hobbesarable]

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Are you?

No, but I'm not demonizing the choices of the black man's reaction to being assaulted and being called an N-bomb like others in this thread are. I'm defending his right to beat down ignorant bitch asses.

 

[Chris Craig]

Legally obtained? I don't have a right to take anything they have purchased. Confront? Yes. Steal? No.

Under 18? Confiscation of their possessions is my right as a parent. Over 18, but not obtained legally? Probably let the police intervene.

Theft is wrong.

Didn't a parent get arrested for "confiscating" her teenage daughters cell phone?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

No. We are commenting on how an adult should react to a kid

A kid who called this older black gentleman an N-bomb and then assaulted him. You are saying, in your capacity as a privileged white, that the black gentleman overreacted and should have been more in control of himself.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

The greatest part is @EL PRESIDENTE is the only one who has brought up he was called a racist slur, and then told @PtldPlatypus , who never brought race into it and only talked about the actual act of violence as an adult as being nasty (no race indicated), that he was "whitesplaning".

El pres, my man, in that argument you cast it onto him. Platy was talking about human beings. You were bringing up race and attributed it falsely to him. That's not fair to platy.

I could extrapolate that out to someone who we all know, but I will digress.

The racial slur and the assault is WHY he beat the kid. You can't just whitewash that part of the story to fit your narrative.

 

[Chris Craig]

The student needs to learn respect, but not that way. Before the teacher started throwing punches, he was the victim. The student assaulted him by throwing a ball at his face. He harrased him by throwing out racial slurs. The student should have been brought to the principle. His parents and the police should have been called. Maybe a night or two in juvenile hall. The video would have gone viral. The student might have learned some humility and respect then. Be forced to look at what he did wrong. But, the teacher threw punches, and the student became the victim. The students actions will go excused. The student will think his words and actions were justified. He will learn nothing.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

A kid who called this older black gentleman an N-bomb and then assaulted him. You are saying, in your capacity as a privileged white, that the black gentleman overreacted and should have been more in control of himself.

I am saying, in my capacity as an American citizen, that the American citizen who is subject to the laws of America should comport himself in a manner in keeping with those laws.

Race does not enter into the equation.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I am saying, in my capacity as an American citizen, that the American citizen who is subject to the laws of America should comport himself in a manner in keeping with those laws.

Race does not enter into the equation.

So you are trivializing someone calling a black man the N-word.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

So you are trivializing someone calling a black man the N-word.

Trivializing? No. Simply not elevating it to the level of physical assault.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Here is the video.