OT Teacher Fights Student

[EL PRESIDENTE]

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You can't negotiate with pieces of shit like this, the only thing they understand is a fucking beat down.

 

[Chris Craig]

So you are trivializing someone calling a black man the N-word.

No. Neither @PtldPlatypus or I are trivializing racism. I can't begin to understand what that guy has been through. I won't try to. I've no doubt he has suffered a lot of racism before this point. This was probably the straw that broke the camels back. Still, as a teacher, as an adult, there is no justification for pummeling a 14 year old, even if he is being a racist disrespectful punk. Even if he throws a ball at you.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

No. Neither @PtldPlatypus or I are trivializing racism. I can't begin to understand what that guy has been through. I won't try to. He has probably suffered a lot of racism before this point. This was probably the straw that broke the camels back. Still, as a teacher, as an adult, there is no justification for pummeling a 14 year old, even if he is being a racist disrespectful punk. Even if he throws a ball at you.

Of course you are. He wants to completely ignore that issue as if it didn't have anything to do with the teacher clapping back.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Of course you are. He wants to completely ignore that issue as if it didn't have anything to do with the teacher clapping back.

I don't ignore the fact that racism entered into the teacher's decision making. What I'm saying is that racism doesn't justify the teacher's decision making.

Circumstances don't change the fact of violence being a wrong response to words, no matter how egregious.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

 

[Chris Craig]

Of course you are. He wants to completely ignore that issue as if it didn't have anything to do with the teacher clapping back.

I just said it had something to do with that. That is not in doubt. An adult can't beat a kid down.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I just said it had something to do with that. That is not in doubt. An adult can't beat a kid down.

Apparently he did!

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I don't ignore the fact that racism entered into the teacher's decision making. What I'm saying is that racism doesn't justify the teacher's decision making.

Circumstances don't change the fact of violence being a wrong response to words, no matter how egregious.

The thing is, as a white man, you can't tell a black man how to react to being called the N-word. I'm not telling him how he should react. I simply support his reaction.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

The thing is, as a white man, you can't tell a black man how to react to being called the N-word. I'm not telling him how he should react. I simply support his reaction.

I've already addressed and refuted this claim earlier in the thread. You should probably go re-read.

The wrongness of responding to words with violence is completely independent of race or circumstances. And it does not come from me "as a white man". It is a matter of law, which is applicable irrespective of skin tone. Until legislation is on the books that permits responding to verbal racism with physical violence, there is no exception.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

the kid threw a basketball at him and was trying to physically intimidate him. I guess we will see how it shakes out but it seems that there is a case to be made for self defense.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I've already addressed and refuted this claim earlier in the thread. You should probably go re-read.

The wrongness of responding to words with violence is completely independent of race or circumstances. And it does not come from me "as a white man". It is a matter of law, which is applicable irrespective of skin tone. Until legislation is on the books that permits responding to verbal racism with physical violence, there is no exception.

Boring.

Beat the kids.

 

[Chris Craig]

the kid threw a basketball at him and was trying to physically intimidate him. I guess we will see how it shakes out but it seems that there is a case to be made for self defense.

A case will be made for self defense. If the man wins which he probably won't good for him. I still won't condone his actions.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I can't see any reasonable jury convicting him. The school will probably settle out of court though

 

[PtldPlatypus]

the kid threw a basketball at him and was trying to physically intimidate him. I guess we will see how it shakes out but it seems that there is a case to be made for self defense.

This entire post is a complete joke.

The basketball had been thrown well over a minute beforehand, after which point the teacher stood near him, then walked to the other side of the room, then walked back to the student.

At the time of the punch, the student was standing still, only talking, and repeatedly asking "You say that $#!^, bro?". There was no physical intimidation.

The kid is a POS, no doubt, but there is absolutely no case for self-defense.

 

[Hobbesarable]

A case will be made for self defense. If the man wins which he probably won't good for him. I still won't condone his actions.

The kid threw the basketball towards the teacher's lower legs. I don't view that as physically threatening. The student moved in closer, yet that still is not physically threatening for the teacher.

The teacher looked like he was going to the phone to call school security, but he didn't. That's where his mistakes begin cascading at that point.

 

[Chris Craig]

The kid threw the basketball towards the teacher's lower legs. I don't view that as physically threatening. The student moved in closer, yet that still is not physically threatening for the teacher.

The teacher looked like he was going to the phone to call school security, but he didn't. That's where his mistakes begin cascading at that point.

Agreed, but I imagine the guy and his lawyer will try

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Agreed, but I imagine the guy and his lawyer will try

He walked away, then walked back. That eliminates any legitimacy of a self-defense claim based on the basketball "assault".

 

[Chris Craig]

He walked away, then walked back. That eliminates any legitimacy of a self-defense claim based on the basketball "assault".

Fair enough. It will be interesting to see how it turns out

 

[MARIS61]

He was called an N-bomb. Isn't that justification for someone to get their ass beat?

Sticks and stones...

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Sticks and stones...

IMO, the little punk asked for it and the teacher complied with his wishes.

 

[MARIS61]

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You can't negotiate with pieces of shit like this, the only thing they understand is a fucking beat down.

Prison time looms large for this unjustified assault on a minor.

Public schools ain't what they used to be.

But apparently, he's getting rich as we speak.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/educ...me-hero/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6d2c80e85927

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Prison time looms large for this unjustified assault on a minor.

Public schools ain't what they used to be.

But apparently, he's getting rich as we speak.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/educ...me-hero/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6d2c80e85927

That's the future. Most schools in California are like this. Have fun with that Caravan bro!

 

[3RA1N1AC]

This entire post is a complete joke.

The basketball had been thrown well over a minute beforehand, after which point the teacher stood near him, then walked to the other side of the room, then walked back to the student.

At the time of the punch, the student was standing still, only talking, and repeatedly asking "You say that $#!^, bro?". There was no physical intimidation.

The kid is a POS, no doubt, but there is absolutely no case for self-defense.

my post was not a joke. you may disagree with me but there is no reason to be rude.

in my opinion there is certainly a case to be made by his lawyer that he was in fear of this kid due to the kid escalating the situation physically. assault with the basketball. the attempts to intimidate. while the timing does appear suspect, and he probably shouldnt have retaliated, saying that there isnt a conceivable argument that he was in fear for his safety is rather closed minded.

 

[Chris Craig]

Prison time looms large for this unjustified assault on a minor.

Public schools ain't what they used to be.

But apparently, he's getting rich as we speak.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/educ...me-hero/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6d2c80e85927

Probably jail and anger management. I guess it depends on the judge

 

[Chris Craig]

Apparently he did!

And he will face the consequences. He gave up his career and will face jail time.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

And he will face the consequences. He gave up his career and will face jail time.

nah, he good.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Probably jail and anger management. I guess it depends on the judge

why would it depend on the judge?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

my post was not a joke. you may disagree with me but there is no reason to be rude.

in my opinion there is certainly a case to be made by his lawyer that he was in fear of this kid due to the kid escalating the situation physically. assault with the basketball. the attempts to intimidate. while the timing does appear suspect, and he probably shouldnt have retaliated, saying that there isnt a conceivable argument that he was in fear for his safety is rather closed minded.

The claim of the student making "attempts to physically intimidate" makes it impossible for me to take your posts seriously. There was absolutely nothing of the sort.

And I'm sorry that you are offended by me finding your posts ridiculous. No rudeness was intended. It would simply be dishonest for me to pretend that I was taking those statements seriously.

 

[calvin natt]

1) he should never have touched the kid
2) the kid is a piece of shit and probably needs a good beat down - by another minor not an adult

Both can be true. You simply cannot touch a minor unless they are attacking you. How it even gets to this point is mind boggling.

 

[Chris Craig]

why would it depend on the judge?

Because a judge does the sentencing. Maybe he gets judge who appathizes with him. Maybe he gets one throws the book at him.