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a man who was wanting a child who is denied that opportunity from the consenting partner can also have these things happen. Depression, drug abuse, etc.


its as if you think men have no emotions…

They do happen, and I don't think she's stating that men have no emotions. But there aren't laws that exacerbate things against men in these situations.
 
Let's say it's to be a mutual decision. If the man wants it and the woman who has to carry it for 9 months doesn't, what then?
 
Let's say it's to be a mutual decision. If the man wants it and the woman who has to carry it for 9 months doesn't, what then?
Rock Paper Scissors. Best of 3 obviously since it’s important
 
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An object is in freefall. It remains in freefall for 5.4 seconds before it hits the ground. How high was the object when it first started falling if its starting velocity was 0? (Acceleration due to gravity is -9.8 meters/second'2).

I don't know, but why am I sadly reminded of 9-11?
 
first i heard it. Do your thing.

So many people not wanting to be judged for who they are and what they believe but as so quick to be simultaneously judging you and your beliefs.

Double standards run rampant these days…

lol.

@SlyPokerDog liked your remark. I suppose that means he understands your thoughts. That's a good thing, particularly so because he made the initial assertion.
 
its a line of thinking that parallels your stance, just on the opposite spectrum. It was an example of the opposite extreme your opinion is. So if its deplorable then so is yours. Both extremes without a compromise to the rights of both individuals who consented to partake in a life creating action.
No. My position removes nobody's right to their own body. Yours does. Not only that, it gives another individual the right to control what somebody else does with their own body.

It's not the same. It's despicable and shows a complete disrespect for every woman. And there is no benefit to society.

So there is no positive side to your proposal. Only misery and pain.
 
Can we please just go back to everyone agreeing that I'm an asshole.

@ABM you can start it off!
 
So, you like things you don't agree with? How conflicting.

No, I liked his post as a way of showing him that I read his post and know it was directed at me.
 
a man who was wanting a child who is denied that opportunity from the consenting partner can also have these things happen. Depression, drug abuse, etc.


its as if you think men have no emotions…
He's free to sue if she violated some contract. Welcome to the USA.
 
My position has compassion for a yet unborn human life.
So you've never masterbated huh? If so, using your philosophy, you've killed millions of unborn humans.

Your position is for a fertilized egg which in the best circumstances doesn't reach full term over 50% of the time at the expense of an existing human life, lower crime rates, and less human suffering.

This is the problem with getting morals from books.

I used to have a tolerance for religion, but the more I read the stances in here the more I think I should ban my kids from attending any church or religious function.

This is absolutely disgusting.
 
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No, I liked his post as a way of showing him that I read his post and know it was directed at me.

and then you would be wrong. i left a large gap between my first sentence referencing the quote and my general statement of some here, to help segregate my comment.
Even though i thought you might think i was only speaking of you… i didnt care enough to detail it all out.
 
So, your position is there's no double standard.
Correct. There is no double standard. The only people who are having their rights to their own body removed with your proposals are women.

There is no benefit to society with the position you support. In fact evidence shows a steep cost to society and quality of life.

So no, there is no double standard.
 
and then you would be wrong. i left a large gap between my first sentence referencing the quote and my general statement of some here, to help segregate my comment.
Even though i thought you might think i was only speaking of you… i didnt care enough to detail it all out.

Okay.
 
I realize I am a minority here, in fact, several minorities. I have engaged with others even when their comments made me groan. But I refuse to try to convince someone I am an equal human. Either accept or shut the fuck up.
In this past week I was told someone, presumably some god, wants me to be straight, that men have the absolute right to force themselves on women because our pain and suffering is trivial compared to some man's possible disappointment, and that Torah and Tanach, and presumably Jewish people, are just preludes to Christianity.
Enough.
Fuck this shit. You guys, and you know who you are, can all fuck yourselves. Better that than a woman, considering your contempt for us.
 
Correct. There is no double standard. The only people who are having their rights to their own body removed with your proposals are women.

There is no benefit to society with the position you support. In fact evidence shows a steep cost to society and quality of life.

So no, there is no double standard.

God is a God of absolutes. We can argue with or discard those all we want. As this relates to you and me, I'll choose to agree to disagree. I think we've already been down that path before.
 
God is a God of absolutes. We can argue with or discard those all we want. As this relates to you and me, I'll choose to agree to disagree. I think we've already been down that path before.
Yep. You'll choose a book written hundreds of years after the death of Jesus, in an effort to control the population over the rights of people alive today, even if that choice is cruel, hurts everyone involved and data shows that it is even horrible for society.

I'll definitely disagree.
 
I don't know
Really? I would have thought that someone who knows that the 93 billion light years in the observable universe were created just for us, knows the purpose of life, knows what happens after we die, knows the answers to life's questions are in a man-written book, knows that the creator of the universe gives a shit about our sex life - someone with all that knowledge should surely know the answer to a basic physics problem.
 
Really? I would have thought that someone who knows that the 93 billion light years in the observable universe were created just for us, knows the purpose of life, knows what happens after we die, knows the answers to life's questions are in a man-written book, knows that the creator of the universe gives a shit about our sex life - someone with all that knowledge should surely know the answer to a basic physics problem.

Perfect conflation.
 

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