OT Texas (2 Viewers)

[julius]

Most people are ready to have sex prior to being ready to be a parent.

I think there's a difference between ready to, and able to.

 

[Chris Craig]

And women's rights. "Women's" rights are a construct by men. Just like "gay marriage" is a construct.

There are rights for every individual in this world. There is marriage for any couple or group that wishes to engage in their relationship(s) as they please.

I have my beliefs, but I won't infringe on anyone's rights to live their lives as they so choose (so long as they are not infringing on other people or causing harm).

Any time you try to tell people how these rights or constructs should exist, you are forcing your beliefs and constructs on others. I find so much irony that, in general in our country (and not necessarily the people on this message board), the people that fight most for freedom of religion and speech, the right to bare arms, etc., are the same people wanting to take rights away from others. So, it's my "God-given" right to possess guns but my daughters cannot have rights to their own bodies and decisions about their bodies? That's some ignorant shit right there.

When babies come out the wombs with guns in hand, maybe I'll feel differently (no, I won't).

Women have fought for their rights. If it was up to men, they still wouldn't have them.

The right to bear arms is a constitutional right. Not a God given right. God didn't invent guns. Man did.

And yes, I noted your sarcasm or at least your exasperation.

 

[Chris Craig]

Most people are ready to have sex prior to being ready to be a parent.

Most people probably aren't thinking about being a parent when they are having sex

 

[Phatguysrule]

ohh so you mean you can say support but not mean vote, but i cant say have a say, lbut not mean enforce???


Good by with your double standards.
Were done man.

You should be done. Back away. Stop digging.

 

[RR7]

Most people probably aren't thinking about being a parent when they are having sex

It'd be a weird thing to think about while having sex, for sure.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Crackhead mother wants abortion. Stable father wants to raise the baby. Does crackhead mother still have the only say?
This is the type of situation that becomes grayer for me. There is a point that can be where the womans choice for abortion is wrong and she doesnt. Know it because shes a coke fiend.
No he cant force her to have it but fuck that crackhead mother and her poor choices. Wont support her and her decisions one bit.
So to me it isn't black and white and one answer fits all.

How stable is this person who is having unprotected sex with a crackhead?

How does this stable person know he's the father?

Why would this stable person be having unprotected sex with a crackhead?

If this stable person is having unprotected sex with a coke fiend shouldn't we also be questioning his poor choices?

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Women have fought for their rights. If it was up to men, they still wouldn't have them.

The right to bear arms is a constitutional right. Not a God given right. God didn't invent guns. Man did.

And yes, I noted your sarcasm or at least your exasperation.

Brah, that's the point. I understand they are not "God-given", hence the quotes. I understand Constitutional versus what should be "birth rights". But the people that believe in the Constitution believe they are "God-given". And parts of the Constitution are outdated, and the fact that people believe they should not change one bit are wrong. Just like religions that don't evolve (hey there, Catholicism - you're only one religion I'm looking at, which I feel comfortable doing since I grew up Catholic).

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

It'd be a weird thing to think about while having sex, for sure.

When we were trying for kids, which was a helluva lotta fun, we were thinking about it. Forget about it once things get started, and start thinking about it afterwards and prepare for the next round. Them's was the good ol' days!

 

[Phatguysrule]

How stable is this person who is having unprotected sex with a crackhead?

How does this stable person know he's the father?

Why would this stable person be having unprotected sex with a crackhead?

If this stable person is having unprotected sex with a coke fiend shouldn't we also be questioning his poor choices?

But... he's... a man. So...

 

[Phatguysrule]

why cant we?

we do it with murder? First degree, second degree, homicide, manslaughter, etc

thats just taking the easy way out.
Its hard to details specific situations so lets just go universal.
Oookay…

movin in now…

Because it doesn't work. As history and data have shown. Abortions are not reduced, crime rates and suffering increase.

Horrible public policy, as has already been established numerous times.

 

[Phatguysrule]

If you’re not ready to be a parent, you’re not ready to have sex, ESPECIALLY not unprotected sex. More education and birth control options should be the standard, not normalizing abortions. Make abortions a last resort.

I don't think anybody disagrees with that. In fact I've advocated for exactly that the whole time.

Nobody is advocating for more abortions.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

How stable is this person who is having unprotected sex with a crackhead?

How does this stable person know he's the father?

Why would this stable person be having unprotected sex with a crackhead?

If this stable person is having unprotected sex with a coke fiend shouldn't we also be questioning his poor choices?

Wait..... so are we talking about a crackhead or a coke fiend? Mixing such things could be dangerous, figuratively and literally.... clearly, FAMS!

 

[Phatguysrule]

Wait..... so are we talking about a crackhead or a coke fiend? Mixing such things could be dangerous, figuratively and literally.... clearly, FAMS!

Are these scientific terms?

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Are these scientific terms?

Sly's scientific terms, FAMS!

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Sly's scientific terms, FAMS!

University of 82nd Ave!

 

[Orion Bailey]

You should be done. Back away. Stop digging.

digging for a quality conversation with you?

Did that earlier.

 

[Orion Bailey]

If you’re not ready to be a parent, you’re not ready to have sex, ESPECIALLY not unprotected sex. More education and birth control options should be the standard, not normalizing abortions. Make abortions a last resort.

wow. I basically brought this up and the same person who liked this shit on me for it. Lol.
Typical.

 

[Orion Bailey]

How stable is this person who is having unprotected sex with a crackhead?

How does this stable person know he's the father?

Why would this stable person be having unprotected sex with a crackhead?

If this stable person is having unprotected sex with a coke fiend shouldn't we also be questioning his poor choices?

you've never seen a good relationship go bad because one person falls?

Blah blah blah.

I never said it happens alot but yes. A stable relationship can be had and love blossomed, but for one reason or another one of them stumbles. And if its her and she ends up pregnant?

yes. There can be a stable man and an unstable mother.
how about answering the question at hand imatead of answering a question with a question?

right. Because you cant.

 

[RR7]

wow. I basically brought this up and the same person who liked this shit on me for it. Lol.
Typical.

Yours and others obsession with looking at who likes every post is really detrimental for your well being on here. People have commented many times on how they like posts for different reasons, but still, you obsess over who likes a post, and make an assumption on the meaning of their like.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Yours and others obsession with looking at who likes every post is really detrimental for your well being on here. People have commented many times on how they like posts for different reasons, but still, you obsess over who likes a post, and make an assumption on the meaning of their like.

are you quoting me as if i give a shit what you think anymore? Lol

its an observation of hypocrisy. Your attempt to try to twist others’ hypocritical behavior into an issue with my observing it, is humorous.

 

[Chris Craig]

Brah, that's the point. I understand they are not "God-given", hence the quotes. I understand Constitutional versus what should be "birth rights". But the people that believe in the Constitution believe they are "God-given". And parts of the Constitution are outdated, and the fact that people believe they should not change one bit are wrong. Just like religions that don't evolve (hey there, Catholicism - you're only one religion I'm looking at, which I feel comfortable doing since I grew up Catholic).

I know. Hence my comment about noting your sarcasm

 

[Phatguysrule]

Sly's scientific terms, FAMS!

I see. Scientific terms, Doggy Style...

 

[Orion Bailey]

Yours and others obsession with looking at who likes every post is really detrimental for your well being on here. People have commented many times on how they like posts for different reasons, but still, you obsess over who likes a post, and make an assumption on the meaning of their like.

ill add that your and others inability to acknowledge your own mistakes or misunderstandings or wrongs is a concerning observation when equating this place as a microcosm of our society.

And thats where idiocracy comes into play. People who think they do no wrong and anyone who disagrees with their opinions is on a path to idiocracy.

some peoples behavior here is very concerning in that respect.

 

[Phatguysrule]

wow. I basically brought this up and the same person who liked this shit on me for it. Lol.
Typical.

LMAO... "Basically" .

 

[Orion Bailey]

LMAO... "Basically" .

yes basically. Because it wasn't word for word.

you are funny though….so i understand the laugh.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

you've never seen a good relationship go bad because one person falls?

Blah blah blah.

I never said it happens alot but yes. A stable relationship can be had and love blossomed, but for one reason or another one of them stumbles. And if its her and she ends up pregnant?

yes. There can be a stable man and an unstable mother.
how about answering the question at hand imatead of answering a question with a question?

right. Because you cant.

I asked you a series of questions based on the scenario that you proposed. You didn't say stumble, you used terms like crackhead and coke fiend.

Having unprotected sex with someone with that extreme of a drug habit seems straight-up dangerous to me. Herpes, AIDS, and other STDs would be enough of a concern to me that I wouldn't being having intercourse with such person and if I did I would make sure I was protected.

If by some chance she did become pregnant I would be very very concerned about the health of the fetus and abortion would have to be a consideration because serious drug use such as you proposed has a high chance of birth defects.

I wasn't rude, I thought I asked legitimate questions.



What question did you want me to answer?

 

[Phatguysrule]

yes basically. Because it wasn't word for word.

This is 100% true. I agree.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Now insert your next stupid post and have your last say and ill move on………since you cant.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I asked you a series of questions based on the scenario that you proposed. You didn't say stumble, you used terms like crackhead and coke fiend.

Having unprotected sex with someone with that extreme of a drug habit seems straight-up dangerous to me. Herpes, AIDS, and other STDs would be enough of a concern to me that I wouldn't being having intercourse with such person and if I did I would make sure I was protected.

If by some chance she did become pregnant I would be very very concerned about the health of the fetus and abortion would have to be a consideration because serious drug use such as you proposed has a high chance of birth defects.

I wasn't rude, I thought I asked legitimate questions.



What question did you want me to answer?

Hold up. What's she look like?

 

[Orion Bailey]

I asked you a series of questions based on the scenario that you proposed. You didn't say stumble, you used terms like crackhead and coke fiend.

Having unprotected sex with someone with that extreme of a drug habit seems straight-up dangerous to me. Herpes, AIDS, and other STDs would be enough of a concern to me that I wouldn't being having intercourse with such person and if I did I would make sure I was protected.

If by some chance she did become pregnant I would be very very concerned about the health of the fetus and abortion would have to be a consideration because serious drug use such as you proposed has a high chance of birth defects.

I wasn't rude, I thought I asked legitimate questions.



What question did you want me to answer?

sorry i didn't state she wasn't a crackhead from birth.
Im not interested in a discussion with you and im pretty sure you know why.