That really was Wes' last game as a Blazer, wasn't it?

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This might sound weird but i think Paul Allen has learned his lesson on that one. The whole Oden and Roy scenarios kind of proved that. He stayed with those guys until the very end through and through. The Blazers simply don't disrespect their players. The fans in this city just don't allow it.


I sure hope your right but the Blazers might not think they are offending Wes and think their offer is fair and Wes doesn't. THAT is what I am afraid of.
 
I'll just leave this here...



Just remember, one of those guys drinks like a fish, so maybe he's just talking out of his arse.
 
Sorry, I meant that we had all their Bird Rights, so going over the cap won't matter. Other teams can sign him to an offer sheet, and it won't change how Portland goes after LaMarcus, Arron (potentially) and Robin.
There's no such thing as an offer sheet in this situation. Teams can sign him to a contract day 1 and we can't do anything to stop it.
 
There's no such thing as an offer sheet in this situation. Teams can sign him to a contract day 1 and we can't do anything to stop it.

So, we can't put a contract out there and he chooses the one that's best for him? That would seem more than fair...
 
There's no such thing as an offer sheet in this situation. Teams can sign him to a contract day 1 and we can't do anything to stop it.

Wow, I'm failing big time today. I think I'll step away from the computer for the night and get my shit together.
 
If that's true then Wes is Blazer for life if he goes to Knicks? And it doesn't denigrate the memory of Jerome. He won a ring in SA. I'm sure that was very important to him.

Big difference between being dumped and leaving on your own. That was a sad parting, and Jerome was beloved by all and came back because his heart was here, and he never left by choice - we cut ties with him. If Wes has some ridiculous offer that he cannot refuse and we're low-balling him, that's one thing. But ultimately, we'll see where Wes is in 10 years. That's the ultimate answer.
 
This might sound weird but i think Paul Allen has learned his lesson on that one. The whole Oden and Roy scenarios kind of proved that. He stayed with those guys until the very end through and through. The Blazers simply don't disrespect their players. The fans in this city just don't allow it.

This. I used Marshawn. But Paul Allen stuck his neck out their on the Roy Extension. He knew he had a bad knee. And he still took care of him. Maybe it was unwise but he did.
 
We did? He never played for Toronto. He went to Warriors.
He was picked up by TOR in the expansion draft, waived before the season and then signed with GS (Adelman was the head coach). C'mon Speed, you're enough of a fan to know this stuff cold!
 
Wes will always be a blazer to me. He started the coats for kids thing in portland, he invested in the community. I havent lived in oregon for over 2 years now but it's always home to me, I love the people, the weather, the beer, the countryside, the scenery, and especially the trail blazers. To me wes is a lot like kersey, hes just that kind of great person that seems to be common in oregon. He started on the jazz but the blazers knew he was special. I believe paul allen will take care of him because paul loves his team and his community.

On top of this I think portland really won wesleys heart. Our core guys have something special a lot of teams dont. They are a lot like the young duncan ginobli and parker core, I think they are destined to stay together and do great things.
 
Just out of curiosity rasheedfan, when you say you like the weather you mean you like it during the summer time right? lol
 
Just out of curiosity rasheedfan, when you say you like the weather you mean you like it during the summer time right? lol
I liked it all. I actually miss the snow. It rains a lot here but I lol when schools close because it might snow in the next state over.
 
Jesus, none of this negative shit, please. I put up with enough of that on 49er Forum, thank you.

This is a bad setback. But it is not the end of Wes in Portland.
 
Even if his D drops off, he will be more than a bench rotation player with a good three point shot.
He will bring will and character.
How many teams, champions and contenders, have a player on their bench who plays minimal minutes but brings it in the locker room?
Wes can be that guy for us at very least.
It won't pay as much as he thought he was going to get before the injury but nothing will now.
I say we sign hime to a 2 year deal with a team option on the second year so that way he doesn't feel the pressure to impress us his first year back.
If he plays well enough, we take the second year option.
Then he should be as 100% as one could be for that second season and then he can prove himself for the next contract.
Plus it mught be better for him because the cap space should be going up too.
 
No. Mathews will be back. He's a tough cookie. He's dealt with people counting him out before. The Blazers
will bring him back.
 
This. I used Marshawn. But Paul Allen stuck his neck out their on the Roy Extension. He knew he had a bad knee. And he still took care of him. Maybe it was unwise but he did.
KP stuck Paul's neck out for him, which is why he got the axe.
 
I'd say it's likely he will stay. And who knows how Afflalo will work out here. If he doesn't impress, we may not even offer him enough to stay.
 
I'd say it's likely he will stay. And who knows how Afflalo will work out here. If he doesn't impress, we may not even offer him enough to stay.
As hard as that statement is to read it sure is true. Everyone is putting a lot of stock into Afflalo being "Wes like". Simply put there are few players like Wes.
 
Tough call, my guess would be to offer him a min contract and see what he can do. If other teams wanna offer him more, we let it pass. We basically would offer a min deal just to see what the results of his injury are, if he comes back the same, we extend. Have to make this tough call. I don't see them doing it any other way.
That's not going to get it done. It would not only be underpaying it would be an insult.

Wes will be well worth the risk on a short term contract of at least a good sixth man level, or better -- just not the crazy numbers people were throwing around two weeks ago.

And then there's the loyalty factor. A little bit of loyalty is not only the right thing to do, but it also engenders a bit of loyalty from others, and makes the Blazers a more desirable destination for players.
 
Wes will be back. He lost pretty much all his leverage with that injury. We'll pay him the most because we know what he brings to our team. No sane GM would put up and tie up that much money for someone who may not even be able to play at 50% of what he was.
This
 
If Wes was their guy before the injury. They can’t go cheap on him. With all the heart and soul he has poured out for this organization and what he was willing to do for them. They need to take care of him. They need to worry about how they appear across the league with how they handle this. If they have any interest in acquiring FA’s for the future, they can’t come across looking classless and arrogant. I don’t think they will. Again, think Spurs and Patty Mills. What did the Spurs do and look at the postive press and image it caused for them. They are the organization you are trying to model your organization after.

I think Paul will take care of him. He just took care of a player in Seattle I think the GM and coach might have just let retire in Marshawn Lynch. I believe he was an Allen signing and I think Wes in the end will be Allen signing.
This too
 
Wes will always be a blazer to me. He started the coats for kids thing in portland, he invested in the community. I havent lived in oregon for over 2 years now but it's always home to me, I love the people, the weather, the beer, the countryside, the scenery, and especially the trail blazers. To me wes is a lot like kersey, hes just that kind of great person that seems to be common in oregon. He started on the jazz but the blazers knew he was special. I believe paul allen will take care of him because paul loves his team and his community.

On top of this I think portland really won wesleys heart. Our core guys have something special a lot of teams dont. They are a lot like the young duncan ginobli and parker core, I think they are destined to stay together and do great things.
This is OT, and I only mention it because of your name, but I'm pretty sure Rasheed Wallace used to do coats for kids in a time long long ago. Either way still awesome Wes does that.

:cheers:

P.S: Wes is and be a Blazer!
 
This is OT, and I only mention it because of your name, but I'm pretty sure Rasheed Wallace used to do coats for kids in a time long long ago. Either way still awesome Wes does that.

:cheers:

P.S: Wes is and be a Blazer!
even if he didnt start the charity he really embraced it and you could see the smile was genuine while he was helping. just like sheed is a lot nicer of a person than people realize.
 
even if he didnt start the charity he really embraced it and you could see the smile was genuine while he was helping. just like sheed is a lot nicer of a person than people realize.

"both teams gave coats!"
 
Wes is a man. Throwback type. He can't dribble much better than I can. If he works on his ball handling while he is rehabbing, he will be a better player even if he is 85 percent of the athlete he was pre injury.

Knowing the warrior that he is, he probably will come back better.
 
I'm sure the Blazers will offer Wes a deal but not for 4 or 5 years given the injury. He'll probably get 2 years with a team option the 2nd year when there will be a lot more cap space to go around. Wes more than likely doesn't play until the allstar break next season so that's long enough to see where his recovery is at. The Knicks are the only team other than the Lakers who could overpay to get him and at that point, it'll be his decision.
 
I'm sure the Blazers will offer Wes a deal but not for 4 or 5 years given the injury. He'll probably get 2 years with a team option the 2nd year when there will be a lot more cap space to go around. Wes more than likely doesn't play until the allstar break next season so that's long enough to see where his recovery is at. The Knicks are the only team other than the Lakers who could overpay to get him and at that point, it'll be his decision.
Perhaps I may become a riverman again....

Or I may simply be a single drop of rain...

But I will remain.
 
even if he didnt start the charity he really embraced it and you could see the smile was genuine while he was helping. just like sheed is a lot nicer of a person than people realize.
Rasheed Wallace is an asshole. I've seen it first hand when he made an 8 year cry at toys r us the day after christmas.
 
For anyone who has not yet seen this, this is from Wes today


http://hoopshype.com/rumors/tag/portland_trail_blazers

Wesley Matthews: I would be lying if I did not admit to having tears fall down my face this morning because I was hoping to just be waking up from a bad dream. I’m sorry this response took this long but none of it felt real, and to be honest, it still doesn’t. My season is over and my will, my heart, my faith and my strength will now be tested, which is a challenge I welcome. Though my season is over, #ripcity’s season is far from over! And I will be there ‘till the end! As I read through all the messages via text and Twitter, I was in awe. I was in shock and disbelief not only because of the injury, but because I never could have imagined how many people could be genuinely hurt, sad and upset for me. To my coaches- thank you; to my brothers and teammates- thank you; to my fans and #ripcity- thank you; to my family and friends- thank you! Like most of my life, a challenge has been placed in front of me—a challenge that will be nothing but another chapter in my story. THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE, SUPPOR T & PRAYERS. See you on the court next season. #arrowlife out. -Ironman - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors/tag/portland_trail_blazers#sthash.d7kUArrE.dpuf

http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/wes-to-fans.280950/
 
No sane GM would put up and tie up that much money for someone who may not even be able to play at 50% of what he was.

No sane GM but a desperate Phil Jackson might, lol.
 

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