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dviss1 said:
Terrible debater. Warren would eviscerate him in a primary.
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That just shows you how bare the Democrats bench is too

dviss1 said:
I don't use skin tone to pick a president. Shameful as it is, I was for John Edwards until he dropped out.
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Don't feel too bad about that, I liked him when I was a teen too, I kind of liked Chris Christie too...
 
santeesioux said:
I'm certainly not siding with the Scott Brown shit, that was disgraceful



I wouldn't be surprised if she was 1/32nd Cherokee, every single white person in the country seems to be...
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To your first point. We agree. But by brining it up and chastising her about it is weird. To your 2nd, why the hell are you mad at her? I believe her.
 
santeesioux said:
That just shows you how bare the Democrats bench is too
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I disagree. She's just that good. She's a better debater than Obama. I watched every debate between her and Brown. She's cold bro. Cold as ice.
 
dviss1 said:
I disagree. She's just that good. She's a better debater than Obama. I watched every debate between her and Brown. She's cold bro. Cold as ice.
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We'll just have to agree to disagree I guess. After 4 years of Trump I'm sure you'll get your choice though.
 
dviss1 said:
To your first point. We agree. But by brining it up and chastising her about it is weird. To your 2nd, why the hell are you mad at her? I believe her.
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Well, Sante is quite a bit more than 1/32nd Native American..... and I could understand being resentful towards someone that uses Native heritage to get ahead in life, if there is a question about the validity of that heritage.
 
dviss1 said:
Nope. History has proven this doesn't happen. You lose in the general, you're done.

Elizabeth Warren 2020
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I'd support Warren if the election were held today. 4 years from now who knows what might happen.
But I'd also highly support her or Sanders as the chair of the DNC.
I have my doubts either of them will get that spot.
DNC has already shown if you're not part of their elite group you aint getting anywhere.
Hopefully they prove me wrong and learn from their mistake this year... But I doubt it.
 
dviss1 said:
The last thing I'll consider is an opinion piece from FOX....
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Oh, go ahead. I fumigated the site this morning and I don't think you'll catch anything.

Doug Schoen, in case you don't know, is a Democratic pollster who worked for Bill Clinton. I think he makes some good points, but you'll have to risk contamination by clicking the link to check it out.
 
e_blazer said:
Oh, go ahead. I fumigated the site this morning and I don't think you'll catch anything.

Doug Schoen, in case you don't know, is a Democratic pollster who worked for Bill Clinton. I think he makes some good points, but you'll have to risk contamination by clicking the link to check it out.
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IMHO, He's wrong and in a HUGE minority. He's a center right Dem. Just like Bill Clinton and Obama.

Yes Obama was center right.
 
Some party will eventually run a Tom Hanks or Oprah now......the secret is out...it's a slam dunk
 
dviss1 said:
I drink coffee, go to political rallys, ride a bike, was born and raised in Portland.... ugh... Maybe I'll stop wearing plaid....

FUUUUUUUUUCK....
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You're whiter than me, I just got the skin color and male pattern baldness to make me look like a Nazi.
 
dviss1 said:
IMHO, He's wrong and in a HUGE minority. He's a center right Dem. Just like Bill Clinton and Obama.

Yes Obama was center right.
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I agree on Obama and your reaction doesn't surprise me based on what you've posted here before. That said, I think that there are major chunks of the Democratic base that are not thrilled with the push to the left. I think you saw that in the results in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. I'm not sure that the Dems can risk losing that portion of their "blue wall" and still win.
 
e_blazer said:
I agree on Obama and your reaction doesn't surprise me based on what you've posted here before. That said, I think that there are major chunks of the Democratic base that are not thrilled with the push to the left. I think you saw that in the results in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. I'm not sure that the Dems can risk losing that portion of their "blue wall" and still win.
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I disagree with you here. There's a reason why 14 million people stayed home instead of voting for Clinton. It's because she's too establishment and did not push to the left until Bernie made her. She screwed him in the primaries and that's why she lost the general. We want all the things that Bernie was talking about.
 
dviss1 said:
I disagree with you here. There's a reason why 14 million people stayed home instead of voting for Clinton. It's because she's too establishment and did not push to the left until Bernie made her. She screwed him in the primaries and that's why she lost the general. We want all the things that Bernie was talking about.
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Just remember that the party isn't monolithic. I think that what the folks on the two coasts want varies considerably from what the middle part of America wants. The blue collar people in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan want jobs first and foremost. Carville wasn't wrong when he said that most important thing in an election is "the economy, stupid."

As far as 14 million Dems staying home, there was never going to be the enthusiasm for Hillary that there was for the first black presidential candidate. Add to that the email debacle and I'm surprised as many turned out as there were.
 
dviss1 said:
I'm confused at how you can be happy about this. Your right to marry who you love is up for grabs. Pence HATES you.
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You know why I'm happy?

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If you still don't GET IT, then I can't help you.

My right to marry who I want is secondary to actually running the country. I'll live. Social issues should ALWAYS be secondary to running the country. My right to marry whom I want doesn't put food on the table, gas in my car, money in my retirement, and clothes on my back.

My right to marry who I want doesn't keep Russia from getting in a war with us because the bitch I would have elected (who, according to you, I should have voted for because she's a democrat and I'm Bisexual) wanted a No Fly Zone in Syria.

My right to marry who I want doesn't bring jobs back from China.

My right to marry who I want doesn't stop possible ISIS members and uneducated, unskilled people from coming here by the hundreds because of open doors and a broken immigration system.

My right to marry who I want doesn't keep violent criminals from a 3rd World Country on our southern border from coming here and committing crime.

My right to marry who I want isn't a Constitutional Right. My Right to Keep and Bear Arms IS.

There's far more at stake than Social Issues. But for the last 8 years, you people have lost sight of that. So get ready to be reminded in January that this country is about so much more than your social feelings.

LMAO....I'm Bi, so I have to vote Democrat. Congratulations; now you know why I DIDN'T.
 

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