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Sinobas said:
There's a lot of interesting ways to speculate why why Trump was elected, but when I look at the numbers, to me to me it seems it was simply that Clinton did not excite her base enough to get out and vote. Trump actually got less votes than Mitt Romney did in 2012. And I don't think Mitt was exactly a set the world on fire canidate, the republican base just backed their guy. Clinton got 5 million less votes than Obama did in 2012. So to me, that indicates the issue was more that people didn't want to vote for Clinton.
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There are millions of uncounted ballots in California and Washington. Sounds like Clinton's final popular vote numbers will be close to Obama's second election. Where she failed was getting out the Dem vote ( a lot of it blacks) in the Midwest.
 
e_blazer said:
There are millions of uncounted ballots in California and Washington. Sounds like Clinton's final popular vote numbers will be close to Obama's second election. Where she failed was getting out the Dem vote ( a lot of it blacks) in the Midwest.
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Or....maybe they've FINALLY figured out that the Democrats don't care about them, and that it's time to leave the Plantation.
 
Jade Falcon said:
When your President goes to the White House lawn to tell the world that your beloved Clinton has bowed out to Trump.....

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Yes, that's an ACTUAL photograph of the White House staff listening to Obama tell the nation about Hillary's defeat.

Beautiful, isn't it?
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Didn't this photo come out originally come out and republicans say it was the staff watching Trump come in to meet with Obama.
Which then someone on this very forum mentioned it was faked.
Now people are saying it's staff listening to Obama tell the nation about Clinton's defeat?
 
honkicracker said:
Didn't this photo come out originally come out and republicans say it was the staff watching Trump come in to meet with Obama.
Which then someone on this very forum mentioned it was faked.
Now people are saying it's staff listening to Obama tell the nation about Clinton's defeat?
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That's exactly what I've heard as well. There was even an article out there debunking the "Trump Meeting Obama" story, and confirmed that this was, indeed, the staff listening to Obama address the nation about the election results.
 
Chris Craig said:
She probably will. I doubt Trump tries to prosecute her. She's gonna fade away into obscurity.
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Trump will step back, as it's not his job to prosecute her.

She will be prosecuted by the Dept of Justice for aiding and abetting the enemy by knowingly arming ISIS and Al Quaeda sponsors Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Yemen, and for selling influence on billion dollar deals she pushed while in the State Dept. Wikileaks and the FBI have already published more than enough evidence to assure convictions.

She and Bill, and probably Chelsea, will be prosecuted by the Dept of Justice for charity fraud, money laundering, theft by deception, tax fraud...and maybe some real disgusting child-trafficking stuff...when the ongoing FBI investigation is finally completed.

James Comey provided proof that she lied under oath to Congress, so she could also face those charges.

Numerous lawsuits will follow her the rest of her miserable life.

If they let her off like they did with Nixon, you'll see a 3rd party President sooner than you think.
 
Jade Falcon said:
Actually, I just read a rambling, hate-filled letter of hers on Yahoo about her reaction to the election. You're right: she's number one. Despicable woman.
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Consider the POS she calls Daddy.

Not an honest bone in his body.
 
MARIS61 said:
Trump will step back, as it's not his job to prosecute her.

She will be prosecuted by the Dept of Justice for aiding and abetting the enemy by knowingly arming ISIS and Al Quaeda sponsors Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Yemen, and for selling influence on billion dollar deals she pushed while in the State Dept. Wikileaks and the FBI have already published more than enough evidence to assure convictions.

She and Bill, and probably Chelsea, will be prosecuted by the Dept of Justice for charity fraud, money laundering, theft by deception, tax fraud...and maybe some real disgusting child-trafficking stuff...when the ongoing FBI investigation is finally completed.

James Comey provided proof that she lied under oath to Congress, so she could also face those charges.

Numerous lawsuits will follow her the rest of her miserable life.

If they let her off like they did with Nixon, you'll see a 3rd party President sooner than you think.
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Obama will probably pardon her before he leaves office
 
rasheedfan2005 said:
Id lose major respect for trump if he tries to sweep it under the rug for her but it wouldnt surprise me. i wanted trump as he was the lesser of 2 evils but i have a hard time believing a politician is really going to do what they say.
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I firmly believe that Trump is going soft on Clinton to try to mend the open gaping festering putrid wound that is the liberal left. As much as I would love for him to prosecute the shit out of that hag, I understand that the safe space, play doh using, emotional support animal, tolerant left would likely like an olive branch extended towards them.
 
blue32 said:
I firmly believe that Trump is going soft on Clinton to try to mend the open gaping festering putrid wound that is the liberal left. As much as I would love for him to prosecute the shit out of that hag, I understand that the safe space, play doh using, emotional support animal, tolerant left would likely like an olive branch extended towards them.
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I get it. i just dont agree. ive never played politics well. id rather jail a criminal and make people rethink why they are idolizing them. im sick of elite ass holes getting away with shit. why is it someone does more jail time for a bag of pot in their coat than supporting fucking terrorists with millions?

And im the racist?
 
Chris Craig said:
Obama will probably pardon her before he leaves office
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I rather hope he does. If he does, that right there says she is guilty and in need of pardon. Trump nor the AG with have any need to fool with her.
I do hope Trump then pardons the sailor in jail for some damn pictures of an old sub on is phone.
 
blue32 said:
I firmly believe that Trump is going soft on Clinton to try to mend the open gaping festering putrid wound that is the liberal left. As much as I would love for him to prosecute the shit out of that hag, I understand that the safe space, play doh using, emotional support animal, tolerant left would likely like an olive branch extended towards them.
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Actually it would be better not to prosecute her, because to do so would steer us dangerously close to tinpot dicatorship territory -- that's what Banana Republics do.

EDIT: The same reason Obama didn't go after Bush W's administration for torture; politically motivated revenge trials/imprisonment destabilize republics. Just look at Erdogan and what he's doing in Turkey right now.
 
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Nikolokolus said:
Actually it would be better not to prosecute her, because to do so would steer us dangerously close to tinpot dicatorship territory -- that's what Banana Republics do.

EDIT: The same reason Obama didn't go after Bush W's administration for torture. Politically motivated revenge trials/imprisonment destabilize republics. Just look at Erdogan and what he's doing in Turkey right now.
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I don't know if he would stop an ongoing investigation, but yeah, he shouldn't order the special prosecutor that he promised toward the end of the election.
 
Nikolokolus said:
Give me one reputable study that shows that.
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Yeah, I see lots of right wing "news" sites making that claim. I see not a scintilla of evidence to support it. As a result, I don't see any reputable news sites reporting it.
 
New voter registration in individual states with a very high percentage registering as Democrats, doesn't square with the numbers of yearly Naturalized citizens.
I am not going to check every state for you but I did hear, south Texas registered over 600 thousand new Hispanic voters since the last election. South Florida almost the same.
California too.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-...ers-voter-registration-primary-htmlstory.html

https://www.uscis.gov/archive/archive-news/naturalization-fact-sheet

People want a creditable source of data on this subject. We do not get it. Why not? It does seem to be what the news media should be checking on for the people.
The government doesn't tell us.
 
e_blazer said:
Yeah, I see lots of right wing "news" sites making that claim. I see not a scintilla of evidence to support it. As a result, I don't see any reputable news sites reporting it.
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:smiley-smiley-049:
 
e_blazer said:
And totally irrelevant, not only because it's the Electoral College that matters, but because neither candidate campaigned as if this were a popular vote election.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/14/trump-lost-the-popular-vote-that-doesnt-mean-he-would-have-lost-a-popular-vote-election/
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Yes, all the articles now say that Trump would have campaigned differently if he were pursuing a popular vote.

They all forget to say that Clinton would have, too. It probably would have won her the electoral vote.
 
Nikolokolus said:
Actually it would be better not to prosecute her, because to do so would steer us dangerously close to tinpot dicatorship territory -- that's what Banana Republics do.

EDIT: The same reason Obama didn't go after Bush W's administration for torture; politically motivated revenge trials/imprisonment destabilize republics. Just look at Erdogan and what he's doing in Turkey right now.
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thats why i lost respect for obama almost immediately. his first run i bought into the transparency bullshit he was preaching. it didnt take long to realize he was just another politician. im sure trump will be the status quo soon. i just prefered a very slim chance over a criminal
 
e_blazer said:
I see not a scintilla of evidence to support it
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I don't see why you expect any other result since it is easily possible.

All you need to vote is to be registered to vote in Oregon.

That is very easy to do, all you need to registrar is an acceptable ID.
Acceptable ID includes the following:

  • Valid photo identification, including driver's license.
  • Paycheck stub with name and address.
  • Utility bill with name and address.
  • Bank statement with name and address.
  • A government document with name and address.
http://www.dmv.org/or-oregon/voter-registration.php
 
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