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Freshtown said:
lol. Simons is not going to fetch 2 first round picks.
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Freshtown said:
Also, boucher is not good.

we should learn our lesson that when really good coaches don’t give minutes to players, there’s usually a reason. (See Derrick Jones and spoelstra)
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Boucher has been getting 24 minutes per game over the last ten games and his three point shooting percentage is coming back to his career average. Boucher not being phenomenal but really fitting with this lineup is why we would get a first out of the Raptors along with him for Nurk.

As far as Ant goes, I think he really fits what the Thunder need, I think that his value around the league isn't as low as it is with us as Blazers fans because he's only 22, he can handle the ball, get anywhere he wants to on the court and score really effectively from wherever he wants. The guy is a bucket with elite level athleticism. The Thunder are hemorrhaging first round picks... they don't both have to be this year like in the trade I showed but this year's Suns and Clippers picks are guaranteed to be late in the first round.
 
blazerkor said:
Boucher has been getting 24 minutes per game over the last ten games and his three point shooting percentage is coming back to his career average. Boucher not being phenomenal but really fitting with this lineup is why we would get a first out of the Raptors along with him for Nurk.

As far as Ant goes, I think he really fits what the Thunder need, I think that his value around the league isn't as low as it is with us as Blazers fans because he's only 22, he can handle the ball, get anywhere he wants to on the court and score really effectively from wherever he wants. The guy is a bucket with elite level athleticism. The Thunder are hemorrhaging first round picks... they don't both have to be this year like in the trade I showed but this year's Suns and Clippers picks are guaranteed to be late in the first round.
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Ant is also a RFA. If they want him, they have all the cap space in the world, they can just overpay to get him.
 
This helps both teams that need change:

PDX - Gary Harris - hard nosed defender that could come off the bench or start
Terrence Ross - small forward that can be instant offense
Franz Wagner - young wing that can play inside out

Magic - CJ
Ant Simons
 
Interesting that you should bring up Orlando...
 
Hoopguru said:
This helps both teams that need change:

PDX - Gary Harris - hard nosed defender that could come off the bench or start
Terrence Ross - small forward that can be instant offense
Franz Wagner - young wing that can play inside out

Magic - CJ
Ant Simons
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The Magic might be the least interested team in CJ in the entire NBA. They're not trading Franz either.
 
They'd still have Cole Anthony, RJ Hampton, Markelle Fultz, and Jalen Suggs after this trade, why would they want to get CJ and Ant on top of giving up a rookie wing who's probably 3rd in the ROY race right now?
 
blazerkor said:
Boucher has been getting 24 minutes per game over the last ten games and his three point shooting percentage is coming back to his career average. Boucher not being phenomenal but really fitting with this lineup is why we would get a first out of the Raptors along with him for Nurk.

As far as Ant goes, I think he really fits what the Thunder need, I think that his value around the league isn't as low as it is with us as Blazers fans because he's only 22, he can handle the ball, get anywhere he wants to on the court and score really effectively from wherever he wants. The guy is a bucket with elite level athleticism. The Thunder are hemorrhaging first round picks... they don't both have to be this year like in the trade I showed but this year's Suns and Clippers picks are guaranteed to be late in the first round.
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Thunders three best players play the PG, SG and SF spots. They aren't giving up two firsts for a scoring guard that would be their 6th man. One that they can overpay through free agency in the offseason if they really want him.
 
Every year a couple jabronis on here act like they have sources and every year none of what they say/suggest ends up happening. No offense but it’s funny.
 
hoopsjock said:
They'd still have Cole Anthony, RJ Hampton, Markelle Fultz, and Jalen Suggs after this trade, why would they want to get CJ and Ant on top of giving up a rookie wing who's probably 3rd in the ROY race right now?
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I was thinking more of Orlando getting rid of Harris & Ross for another tradable asset with other trades to follow. Prob right about Franz.
 
Hoopguru said:
I was thinking more of Orlando getting rid of Harris & Ross for another tradable asset with other trades to follow. Prob right about Franz.
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Harris is washed. Ross is a much, much worse version of CJ.
 
hoopsjock said:
They'd still have Cole Anthony, RJ Hampton, Markelle Fultz, and Jalen Suggs after this trade, why would they want to get CJ and Ant on top of giving up a rookie wing who's probably 3rd in the ROY race right now?
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Philly is loaded with guards as well which could sour them on CJ?
 
Whenever you cook up a 4 team trade where 20 players move around, remember that that's just for the fun of playing around with a trade simulator and that such things virtually never happen in real life.

I think the ancient Patrick Ewing was involved in a four-team trade once.
 
If we’re talking about Orlando I would be targeting Isaac. Wonder if Wagner’s emergence could make him more available.
 
blazerkor said:
So with it said that I want trades made that make our team better one idea I have is to trade Ant to the Thunder for draft picks (I think we could get two first rounders from them). Then we trade Nurk to the Raptors for Boucher, filler and their first rounder this year top 10 protected. I would then trade CJ, RoCo and the three first rounders we just acquired to the Sixers for Simmons and filler.

We end up with a rotation of Dame, Norm, Simmons, Larry, Boucher, Nas, DSJ, Cody and either Tony or Ben Mac. I think that rotation gets us rolling in the right direction going into next season. I would try to get a contract extension done with Boucher for three years and 27M. If we make the playoffs we have all of our future picks available to deal in the off season and our top six players locked in for next season at 116.5M. If you add in 7 min contracts (~14M), our 2.8M in dead cap money and a player at the full MLE, we would end up right at the projected 145M luxury tax apron.

This is what that trade would look like if done all at once but each trade does work individually as far as matching the salaries goes and it gets us way under the luxury tax.
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wait a minute...you have OKC giving up 2 first round picks for Simons?
 
Minstrel said:
Whenever you cook up a 4 team trade where 20 players move around, remember that that's just for the fun of playing around with a trade simulator and that such things virtually never happen in real life.

I think the ancient Patrick Ewing was involved in a four-team trade once.
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How largest trade in NBA history helped Heat win first championship

On Aug. 2, 2005, five teams executed the largest trade in NBA history, changing the course of the league forever... OK, maybe it wasn't quite that impactful. But hey, it was a big deal for one franchise!

Ahead of the 2005-06 season, the Boston Celtics, Memphis Grizzlies, Miami Heat, New Orleans Hornets and Utah Jazz swapped 13 players, topping a 12-player trade completed on Sept. 20, 2000. (That deal sent an aging Patrick Ewing to the Seattle Supersonics. Yes, that actually happened.)


Here's what each team acquired once the trade was finalized. Take a deep breath...

Celtics: Albert Miralles, Qyntel Woods, Curtis Borchardt, two second-round picks

Grizzlies: Eddie Jones, Raul Lopez

Heat: Antoine Walker, Jason Williams, James Posey, Andre Emmett, Roberto Duenas

Hornets: Rasual Butler, Kirk Snyder

Jazz: Greg Ostertag

Miami easily came out the biggest winner from the trade. Williams (12.3 points per game) and Walker (12.2) finished as the third- and fourth-leading scorers behind All-Stars Dwyane Wade (27.2) and Shaquille O'Neal (20.0). Posey started in 63 games and shot 40.3 percent from 3-point range, adequately filling the 3-and-D role.

Wade was obviously the driving force, but those offseason additions helped the Heat capture the franchise's first NBA championship with a 4-2 Finals series win over Dirk Nowitzki and the Mavericks. Miami went on to win back-to-back rings in 2012 and 2013 after getting some guys named LeBron James and Chris Bosh. (Decent players, but they can't compare to the dynamic duo of Williams and Walker!)

Miralles, Woods and Bordchardt never became Celtics legends like we all expected. Jones was on the back end of his career, and the Grizzlies waived Lopez before the season started. Butler lasted a few years with the Hornets, but Snyder was traded the next summer. Ostertag played one more season in Utah before hanging up his jersey.

What did all of this movement mean in the grand scheme of things? Well, the Heat players got rings, but not much for everyone else involved. It's possible multiple general managers will design a wild 14-player trade in the future, but sometimes it's about quality over quantity.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba...ams-antoine-walker/1x249skrkg93y12mq9esebvcen
 
Hoopguru said:
That seems like way to much to give up for CJ. Id trade him for Reddish straight across, if they could make salaries work.
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your assessment of value is off. Reddish isn’t anywhere near the player CJ is. Bogdan is closer but still not on that level.
 
Scalma said:
your assessment of value is off. Reddish isn’t anywhere near the player CJ is. Bogdan is closer but still not on that level.
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Brogdon is better than CJ. Would fit better with Dame as well
 
TBpup said:
Blazers don't need Monta Ellis next to Dame either.
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I just remembered the Hawks have Lou Williams too. More reason for them not to trade for CJ. Makes no sense. Even if Lou Will is a 12 mpg guy now.
 
Bottom ten teams in 3PT % that aren’t tanking/full rebuild

Raptors
Celtics
Mavs
Pacers
Wizards

I’m looking at these teams for CJ/Powell. Add the Clippers and 76ers as well as they’re bottom ten in scoring.
 
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