The 2022 Trade Idea Thread, now with more urgency! (1 Viewer)

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Think Joe & Chuancey are on same page with respect to trades?
 
cheesehoff said:
I like the growth Watford is showing, but he's no center. The second unit is getting killed on the boards and interior defense. Nance would be one of the guys I would silently put on my no trade list. Same with Mac.
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Nance isn’t a center either, only a small ball one. We saw the struggles he had when Nurk was out and he had to start at the five. He’s quite literally the same size as Trendon, who actually has a superior rebound rate, averaging 10 boards/36.

I don’t wanna trade Nance but if I could only keep one of Roco and him, I would go with Roco. Teams don’t honor Nances outside shot like they do rocos. I think by this time next year Watford should be good enough to be in the rotation full time and his skill set overlaps more with Nance. I just don’t see who exactly is gonna replace RoCo in house. Nas is better guarding twos than fours imo.
 
New Orleans is a prime spot for Powell. They’ve been connected to him numerous times. He fills a need. The money doesn’t have to match, and they won’t dip into the tax even if they took his entire contract on.

Herb Jones has played well for them but when Zion is healthy he’s still a backup, and you have to believe that team is still centered around him. So that’s who I’d be targeting. Their value on paper is essentially equal, youd just be sacrificing offense for defense, not too different than the Powell/Smart idea. If we did that trade straight up we could dip the tax. It would also open up a Roco trade for more assets.
 
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Predator said:
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I think Sabonis is much much better than Fox. He’s also got a much better contract. I bet theres a gap in Fox’s value among media/fans and actual teams. He’s not a bad player or anything but you’d think he was a prime asset listening and reading things about him online.
 
Scalma said:
I think Sabonis is much much better than Fox. He’s also got a much better contract. I bet theres a gap in Fox’s value among media/fans and actual teams. He’s not a bad player or anything but you’d think he was a prime asset listening and reading things about him online.
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Seems like teams want Halliburton, not Fox, who can’t shoot.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
None as good as Sabas Jr.
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Yeah, I was just pointing out they don’t seem thrilled with it, surprisingly.

I think a decent amount prefer Simmons so they can keep Holmes.

either would be a good trade for them if they manage to keep Haliburton
 
I honestly think fox is Sacramento’s third best point guard when it’s all said and done.
 
i don't trust him, but pincus says...


* Look for the Portland Trail Blazers to make moves to get under the NBA's $136.6 million luxury tax threshold. The team is currently near $140 million in salary. Players potentially on the move could include Robert Covington, Jusuf Nurkic and Larry Nance Jr. Given the team gave up a first-rounder (to the Chicago Bulls in a three-team deal with the Cavaliers) to get Nance, the team is naturally looking for greater compensation. Several teams have large enough trade exceptions to absorb Covington's salary outright, including the New Orleans Pelicans and Boston Celtics.


* The Pelicans are believed to be buyers at the deadline, interested in using their $17.1 million trade exception (from the Steven Adams trade). The team also has several potential assets like Tomas Satoransky's expiring contract and young players like Nickeil Alexander-Walker and Jaxson Hayes. One possible target for the Pelicans is believed to be Detroit's Grant.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...-realistic-targets-myles-turner-landing-spots
 
illmatic99 said:
i don't trust him, but pincus says...


* Look for the Portland Trail Blazers to make moves to get under the NBA's $136.6 million luxury tax threshold. The team is currently near $140 million in salary. Players potentially on the move could include Robert Covington, Jusuf Nurkic and Larry Nance Jr. Given the team gave up a first-rounder (to the Chicago Bulls in a three-team deal with the Cavaliers) to get Nance, the team is naturally looking for greater compensation. Several teams have large enough trade exceptions to absorb Covington's salary outright, including the New Orleans Pelicans and Boston Celtics.


* The Pelicans are believed to be buyers at the deadline, interested in using their $17.1 million trade exception (from the Steven Adams trade). The team also has several potential assets like Tomas Satoransky's expiring contract and young players like Nickeil Alexander-Walker and Jaxson Hayes. One possible target for the Pelicans is believed to be Detroit's Grant.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...-realistic-targets-myles-turner-landing-spots
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I mean, saying the Blazers want to get under the tax line is not exactly news.
 
It isn't sexy, but I think it could work.

CJ and Covington to Cleveland for Love and Okoro. Not sure if Cleveland would be willing to do it, but I think it could help both teams.

We could then see if we can flip Powell and a pick for a 3/4 (ideally Grant's value comes back down to earth).

Lillard/Simons
Okoro/Simons
Little/Snell
Grant/Love
Nurkic/Nance

We would be a lot tougher, rebound like hell, and passing would improve a lot (addition by subtraction with CJ gone). Cleveland is in a good place though so I doubt they'd go for it and Grant probably goes for more as well.
 
illmatic99 said:
i don't trust him, but pincus says...


* Look for the Portland Trail Blazers to make moves to get under the NBA's $136.6 million luxury tax threshold. The team is currently near $140 million in salary. Players potentially on the move could include Robert Covington, Jusuf Nurkic and Larry Nance Jr. Given the team gave up a first-rounder (to the Chicago Bulls in a three-team deal with the Cavaliers) to get Nance, the team is naturally looking for greater compensation. Several teams have large enough trade exceptions to absorb Covington's salary outright, including the New Orleans Pelicans and Boston Celtics.


* The Pelicans are believed to be buyers at the deadline, interested in using their $17.1 million trade exception (from the Steven Adams trade). The team also has several potential assets like Tomas Satoransky's expiring contract and young players like Nickeil Alexander-Walker and Jaxson Hayes. One possible target for the Pelicans is believed to be Detroit's Grant.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...-realistic-targets-myles-turner-landing-spots
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God we need new ownership.
 
The cavs were rumored to be interested in CJ before the draft, plus Rubio went down.

Could we get okoro, a first, and filler (love)?
 
boredinsalem said:
It isn't sexy, but I think it could work.

CJ and Covington to Cleveland for Love and Okoro. Not sure if Cleveland would be willing to do it, but I think it could help both teams.

We could then see if we can flip Powell and a pick for a 3/4 (ideally Grant's value comes back down to earth).

Lillard/Simons
Okoro/Simons
Little/Snell
Grant/Love
Nurkic/Nance

We would be a lot tougher, rebound like hell, and passing would improve a lot (addition by subtraction with CJ gone). Cleveland is in a good place though so I doubt they'd go for it and Grant probably goes for more as well.
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That team screams purgatory. Simons is better than Okoro, it doesn’t even make sense to start Okoro over him. Nance is 6’7, you have one 7’er. I’d rather get picks back for Norman rather than attach picks to him for Grant. Grant has made it clear he wants to get all the shots on a losing team, the chances of you giving up Norm and a pick for nothing by summer 2023 will be very high. Love doesn’t help us compete at that salary. You’ve also just essentially just said “yes I’ve seen Snell play all season—of course I see him being the first wing off the bench on a championship contending team”.

In your scenario we give up Covington, CJ, Norm, and a pick. No picks back in return. Yeah I’m chillin on that trade proposal. I see us being the one that declines this offer, not Cleveland. We might be tougher on the wings, but we won’t be rebounding like hell, I can tell you that. Your would-be PF (Grant) averages less rpg than your would-be SF (Little), so I’m not sure what made you think we’d be rebounding like hell in the first place.
 
Yeah what the FUCK has Okoro done to be worth CJ AND RoCo? Love is still completely overpaid, he's good for like 20 minutes a night (when healthy.) Thats a brutal trade, no offense.
 
Scalma said:
Yeah what the FUCK has Okoro done to be worth CJ AND RoCo? Love is still completely overpaid, he's good for like 20 minutes a night (when healthy.) Thats a brutal trade, no offense.
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What do you think CJ is worth grand intelligent master Scalma? Can't believe you're not working in an NBA front office. I think he's a middling asset, Love makes less, Okoro was a top 8 pick last year and has shown the ability to play lockdown D (that's what the FUCK he has done). Roco is an expiring aged player doubt his value is through the roof.
 
illmatic99 said:
if norman really has that kinda trade value, we need to make a move now
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I think that guy was kind of dreaming. although the trade with Atlanta might be doable. Powell, Roco and Nance for Hunter. Okongwu, Gallinari and two picks. Atlanta might think that would give them some toughness and experience.
 
BankTeller said:
Grant has made it clear he wants to get all the shots on a losing team, the chances of you giving up Norm and a pick for nothing by summer 2023 will be very high. Love doesn’t help us compete at that salary. You’ve also just essentially just said “yes I’ve seen Snell play all season—of course I see him being the first wing off the bench on a championship contending team”.
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Have you been discussing that with Grant? I saw one article that didn't include direct quotes that indicated he wanted to be
"a primary offensive option". You're stretching "made it clear" quite a bit.

BankTeller said:
We might be tougher on the wings, but we won’t be rebounding like hell, I can tell you that. Your would-be PF (Grant) averages less rpg than your would-be SF (Little), so I’m not sure what made you think we’d be rebounding like hell in the first place.
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Congratulations, you pointed out the one member of the frontcourt that isn't a good rebounder. However, Nurk, Little, and Love are elite, Nance is passable, and Grant would be guarding out on the wing more often on defense anyways. We would be much better at rebounding than this year with Roco.
 
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