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The libs blame Assange, the Russian or the timing. WtF, they didn't write the email? They hacked them off servers she is too incompetent to protect.
I can't imagine the thought process it takes to rationalize voting for this two faced person.
 
The libs blame Assange, the Russian or the timing. WtF, they didn't write the email? They hacked them off servers she is too incompetent to protect.
I can't imagine the thought process it takes to rationalize voting for this two faced person.
The whole Russia thing is pure tinfoil hat conspiracy theory.

He's a Russian plant!
 
Yes, barfo. The Podesta emails came out as a deliberate October Surprise. Assange announced it days and weeks ahead of time that it was his intention to do so. He's not the media pretending to be honest.

So if somehow "the media" had announced weeks ago that it was holding, and planned to release the Billy Bush tape in October, that would have made it all good in your eyes?

Assange is (part of) the media, in fact.

Brazille and Martin. Hiliar sure hires good people.

As far as I know Martin is not, and has never been, an employee of the campaign or any party organization.

barfo
 
“WikiLeaks is a giant library of the world’s most persecuted documents. We give asylum to these documents...” - Julian Assange, Der Spiegel Interview

He makes it sound like the documents are rapists hiding out in the Ecuadorian embassy.

barfo
 
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/10/1...r=http://www.realclearpolitics.com/?state=nwa

The signs in my neighborhood are easily 5:1 Trump. Probably 30+ that I see for Trump, maybe 6 for the crook.

Two Trump signs have his name covered with duct tape so the signs read Pence.


Denny Noonan said:
And there’s the thing about the yard signs. In Florida a few weeks ago I saw Romney signs, not Obama ones. From Ohio I hear the same. From tony Northwest Washington, D.C., I hear the same.


barfo
 
So if somehow "the media" had announced weeks ago that it was holding, and planned to release the Billy Bush tape in October, that would have made it all good in your eyes?

Assange is (part of) the media, in fact.



As far as I know Martin is not, and has never been, an employee of the campaign or any party organization.

barfo

No, and the media DID hold the Billy Bush tape.

http://www.tmz.com/2016/10/12/nbc-trump-tape-billy-bush-plan-election-debate/

PLANNED TO USE TRUMP AUDIO TO INFLUENCE DEBATE, ELECTION

NBC execs had a plan to time the release of the Donald Trump audio to have maximum impact on both the 2nd presidential debate and the general election ... sources connected with the network tell TMZ.

Multiple sources connected with NBC tell us ... top network execs knew about the video long before they publicly said they did, but wanted to hold it because it was too early in the election. The sources say many NBC execs have open disdain for Trump and their plan was to roll out the tape 48 hours before the debate so it would dominate the news cycle leading up to the face-off.​

http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...e-nbc-news-access-hollywood-billy-bush-214344

Why Did NBC News Sit on the Trump Tape for So Long?
Stories get held at every news organization, but NBC doesn’t look good here, and no amount of finessing will make them look any prettier.

As the political world ponders whether the past 72 hours have delivered a fatal knockout blow to Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, the nation’s media observers have been bedeviled by a separate question: Why did NBC News hold its story about the uncouth video starring Trump so long that the Washington Post’s David Fahrenthold ended up getting the scoop?

Recorded in 2005 for the NBC-owned Access Hollywood entertainment show, the video captures backstage sexual boasting by Trump to the show’s co-host, Billy Bush, who goads him on. Once NBC News learned that its Trump tape had been leaked to the Post and the paper was preparing a story, the network aired its own story, getting beat by about 10 minutes.


 
No, and the media DID hold the Billy Bush tape.

And then NBC decided to hold it even longer, because of the hurricane, and got scooped as a result.

Not clear to me what your issue is here. You applaud Wikileaks for holding information until it has maximum impact, but denounce NBC for doing the same.

It's almost like you have some sort of bias.

barfo
 
Kind of makes you wonder if the election was legit.

Yes, the vote of yard signs was suppressed. Apparently they were staked to the ground so they could not go to the polls.

barfo
 
And then NBC decided to hold it even longer, because of the hurricane, and got scooped as a result.

Not clear to me what your issue is here. You applaud Wikileaks for holding information until it has maximum impact, but denounce NBC for doing the same.

It's almost like you have some sort of bias.

barfo
This...
 
Re-learn American political history and discard the nonsense you "learned" from major media all your life.

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/
Mao Tse Tung did exactly that with the Red Guard...re-education camps..to this day the govt there controls internet access and journalism....peeping Tom journalism is about as un-American as you can get....are you trying to tell me the NY Yankees never really won a world series? WikiLeaks does allow you to choose your media source....it's not like a computer hacker couldn't fool the inspectors that verify it....that's never happened
 
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And then NBC decided to hold it even longer, because of the hurricane, and got scooped as a result.

Not clear to me what your issue is here. You applaud Wikileaks for holding information until it has maximum impact, but denounce NBC for doing the same.

It's almost like you have some sort of bias.

barfo
I didn't applaud WikiLeaks, though at least they're honest.

The media intended to leak this "story" for maximum damage to one of the candidates. That's not ethical journalism.

WikiLeaks isn't journalists, it's a database of things like the emails of the crook and her party operatives.
 
I didn't applaud WikiLeaks, though at least they're honest.

Yes, thieves are so very honest. Assange is such an upstanding citizen he can't go out in public for fear of being arrested for rape.

The media intended to leak this "story" for maximum damage to one of the candidates. That's not ethical journalism.

I like how you put "story" in quotes, as if it isn't. One man's maximum damage is another man's maximum ratings.

WikiLeaks isn't journalists, it's a database of things like the emails of the crook and her party operatives.

Sure. And NBC isn't journalists, it's a database of things like videos of hurricanes and Billy Bush tapes.

barfo
 
Yes, thieves are so very honest. Assange is such an upstanding citizen he can't go out in public for fear of being arrested for rape.



I like how you put "story" in quotes, as if it isn't. One man's maximum damage is another man's maximum ratings.



Sure. And NBC isn't journalists, it's a database of things like videos of hurricanes and Billy Bush tapes.

barfo

WikiLeaks isn't thieves. They're posting information taken by thieves. Most news outlets are posting the same information, just not making a big deal about it because it would damage their chosen candidate.

This is no story. Trump already has made comments about Fiorina's looks, insulted Megyn Kelly, etc.

You apparently have no clue what journalism is.
 
WikiLeaks isn't thieves. They're posting information taken by thieves.

Sounds like they are pure as the driven snow. I apologize for casting aspersions.

This is no story. Trump already has made comments about Fiorina's looks, insulted Megyn Kelly, etc.

You don't see a difference between being an asshole and being a groper?

barfo
 
Sounds like they are pure as the driven snow. I apologize for casting aspersions.



You don't see a difference between being an asshole and being a groper?

barfo

Groper is to be proven.

Misogynist is proven. And bad enough.
 
Funny thing. Ironic, I mean.

When I was in college, about the same time some of these accusations were made, we used to joke that if a guy went down to the quad and simply asked every girl that passed by, "let's fuck," that you'd get slapped a few times and a few would say "yes."

The guy might have made passes at many many women. "Inappropriate touching" like kissing is what a pass is all about. It's absurd to think that the dating ritual should include asking each other for permission to touch beforehand. A guy makes a pass, the woman says "I'm not interested" (or is interested) and that's that.

The timing of these accusations is most definitely suspect. The veracity of some of the stories does not hold up to even a little bit of scrutiny. The news organizations are manufacturing "proof" to support the women's claims and the veracity of that "proof" is dubious.

Strategically, the crook's allies simply need to keep Trump on the defensive about these (bogus) claims through the election so the crook's record isn't scrutinized any further.

http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/exclusive-inside-the-donald-trump-sexual-assault-lawsuit/

In addition to her personal accounts, Harth made a litany of other claims against Trump including allegations that he had an adulterous affair, that he retaliated against those who crossed him by making sexually charged allegations and even accused him of making “racial slurs.” Harth said that on the same evening of Jan 9, 1993 at a “Calendar Girl” competition Trump directed “any black female contestant to be excluded.”

At the time, Trump vigorously denied the charges saying the suit “was a desperate attempt to get me to settle a case they can’t win.” But then, not even a month after filing the case, Harth withdrew it. The court record indicates it was “voluntarily dismissed” but “without prejudice,” meaning she could have re-filed the case. The timing is interesting because at around the same time the case was withdrawn, Trump reportedly agreed to settle with her husband’s company, The American Dream Enterprise, according to an obscure 1997 gossip article in the New York Daily News which appears to be the only mainstream media coverage of either suit.

American Dream Enterprise had filed a breach of contract lawsuit in 1995 against Trump which was apparently peppered with Harth’s allegations, according to the Daily News. LawNewz.com reviewed the court docket from the breach-of-contract case and it does indeed show that the affidavits of George Houraney and Jill Harth were both ordered sealed in September of 1996. There are no other accounts of what was contained in those sealed affidavits.

LawNewz.com spoke briefly to Jill Harth in an interview last week. Harth wouldn’t’ discuss the settlement or much about either lawsuit. When asked about the allegations, Harth told LawNewz that she was “under duress” and “pressured” to file the case. But when questioned about who applied that pressure, she wouldn’t say.

So were the sexual harassment allegations true? Harth says: “The allegations were twisted and embellished. Everything could be looked at in different way.”

Harth, who now runs a beauty business, says she’s put the lawsuit behind her, and get this, she says she’d even vote for Donald Trump in the upcoming election — what she calls “supporting a friend.”

“I saw him [Donald] recently, and he said I looked good,” Harth said. “I have nothing but good things to say about Donald.”
 
WikiLeaks isn't thieves. They're posting information taken by thieves. Most news outlets are posting the same information, just not making a big deal about it because it would damage their chosen candidate.
You don't know who people running WikiLeaks really are or how honest they are.....but you trust them..that's a choice you make...you also lump the information they post as a collection of thieves info....probably true in some circumstance...not so much in others...if you think govt doesn't tweak classified info to suit it's purpose....you just don't understand how classified material is dealt with. Over the past couple of months, you've put more effort into justifying Trump's media complaints than any other political issue......because it supports your agenda...I'm lobbying hard against Trump because I DON'T TRUST HIM period...I choose to read articles that support my anti Trump stance....if it goes against your choices..you'll find an article to support that...the fact is Denny....you choose your info based on personal preferences....facts in the world of politics are not arrived at by scientific method at all...they are actually more like Casey Kasem's top 40 most popular hits....
 
Let's take the language and analyze it....talking about high school locker rooms....I was thinking about how east coast mobsters gave us the term...I'd hit that...I'd tap that...so hitting a woman meant getting sex from her....tap that meant getting sex...but a hitman kills people and in the mob it's called tapping a mark.....probably Sinatra and his buddies introduced the term but it's sort of a strange male term for courtship or lust
 
You don't know who people running WikiLeaks really are or how honest they are.....but you trust them..that's a choice you make...you also lump the information they post as a collection of thieves info....probably true in some circumstance...not so much in others...if you think govt doesn't tweak classified info to suit it's purpose....you just don't understand how classified material is dealt with. Over the past couple of months, you've put more effort into justifying Trump's media complaints than any other political issue......because it supports your agenda...I'm lobbying hard against Trump because I DON'T TRUST HIM period...I choose to read articles that support my anti Trump stance....if it goes against your choices..you'll find an article to support that...the fact is Denny....you choose your info based on personal preferences....facts in the world of politics are not arrived at by scientific method at all...they are actually more like Casey Kasem's top 40 most popular hits....

I'm not sure you understand what Wikileaks is sir.
 
I'm not sure you understand what Wikileaks is sir.
I actually do...but I don't pretend that it's flawless or has not been altered..that's an assumption. I also don't trust polls...some have the ability to vote multiple times ...I was reading WikiLeaks just yesterday to become familiar and their search options are linked to periodicals and journalists....I know govt is corrupt...I know most banks are corrupt.....I used to work for the Navy in msg processing with a top secret clearance...if you think it's transparent....you sir, do not understand. I sense a growing trend toward folks following an internet based govt and I sure as hell don't trust that either. Hackers can project some amazing data and make you believe it's the real deal. I'm not computer savy enough to trouble shoot their system or methods. There was no internet when I did that job and I promise you....millions of burn bags went up in smoke from military communications for many decades..those msgs are gone forever..poof....if you think Hoover was transparent or Kissinger...the fact is that to do their job, they are trained to be elusive with info.....now you can open this can of email worms and script them to suit your needs. The reason I dreaded a Trump Clinton race was the tons of shit that would be dragged into it....and it has been. You guys can salute the WikiLeaks nation all you want....it's just another set of words and characters in English....
 
I formally challenge @The Real Donald to a third debate here on SportsTwo, the premiere website for Portland Trailblazers fans and for some reason alt-right politics.

Perhaps Steve Bannon is going to be the new CEO of the Trailblazers after the election.

barfo
 
You don't know who people running WikiLeaks really are or how honest they are.....but you trust them..that's a choice you make...you also lump the information they post as a collection of thieves info....probably true in some circumstance...not so much in others...if you think govt doesn't tweak classified info to suit it's purpose....you just don't understand how classified material is dealt with. Over the past couple of months, you've put more effort into justifying Trump's media complaints than any other political issue......because it supports your agenda...I'm lobbying hard against Trump because I DON'T TRUST HIM period...I choose to read articles that support my anti Trump stance....if it goes against your choices..you'll find an article to support that...the fact is Denny....you choose your info based on personal preferences....facts in the world of politics are not arrived at by scientific method at all...they are actually more like Casey Kasem's top 40 most popular hits....

All I really know about WikiLeaks is they have an online, searchable, database of documents governments and candidates don't want the public to see. And they were equally devastating to the Bush administration as it is to the crook and Obama administration.

My agenda is to have the media do its job. If it isn't, then why vote? We should just let the media pick the politicians. I see it as a VERY dangerous thing.
 

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