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dviss1 said:
Really?? Take it out of here? I know your a mod but you aren't going to moderate that statement... Bottom line that "nationalistic crap" as you call it, is the complete reason why Batum plays in that tournament. And you aren't going to change that so why invest energy in being pissed about it?
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Because it's affecting one of my favorite teams. I would prefer to have players who are focused on the team where they collect their paychecks.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Because it's affecting one of my favorite teams. I would prefer to have players who are focused on the team where they collect their paychecks.
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As long as he's on the team you're going to have to accept that.
 
dviss1 said:
As long as he's on the team you're going to have to accept that.
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I don't have to accept it. I can complain about it. That's what we do on this forum. We voice opinions on those things that we pleased with, and those things we are displeased with.
 
Realized maybe instead of the free agency salary thread, I should post this here instead:

I get he's paid highly, and he isn't like a 18 PPG scorer so people are going to dump on him, but I don't think Nic's contributions to our team are as easily replaceable as many on here seem to feel. We have 3 players averaging over 16 PPG. We have 4 guys with USG rates in the 20s(matthews is 19.9, I'm rounding up, sue me). I'd like another scorer off the bench, be it shooter or attacker, but not at the expense of Nic. He allows Damian to play off the ball a bit, is solid in the PnR. I get frustrated at his telegraphed passes, but he's still a much better passer than probably anyone outside of Lillard and Blake on our team. Sure, we can start Crabbe and he'd be a passable defender and a better 3 point shooter, but he's a 3 and D sit in the corner-ish type on offense. That puts way mor pressure on Lillard to facilitate more of the offense.
 
Natebishop3 said:
If any regular person was allowing extracurricular activities to affect their work performance, they would be fired.


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Unless those activities are expressly allowed in the employment contract...
 
dviss1 said:
I distinctly remember people making positive statements about Batum's improvement over that summer. Who's gonna go through all those posts trying to find them? Are you...?
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Some people did re the leadership, assertiveness, goto player, etc. I will agree he showed some growth in those areas due to being in that position that year.

However, he has been with the Blazers since he was 19 years old and I believe he has played for the French team over the summer every single year. That's all great when you are 20 and a bench player, but IMO he's been playing year round for too long, and I've said that every year. Outside looking in, I think it has finally worn him to a nub. The summer he won the championship -- good for him. It seemed he learned a lot from Parker that year. Last summer, he really should have taken the time off. Parker did. I wish he'd learned that lesson, too.
 
RR7 said:
Realized maybe instead of the free agency salary thread, I should post this here instead:

I get he's paid highly, and he isn't like a 18 PPG scorer so people are going to dump on him, but I don't think Nic's contributions to our team are as easily replaceable as many on here seem to feel. We have 3 players averaging over 16 PPG. We have 4 guys with USG rates in the 20s(matthews is 19.9, I'm rounding up, sue me). I'd like another scorer off the bench, be it shooter or attacker, but not at the expense of Nic. He allows Damian to play off the ball a bit, is solid in the PnR. I get frustrated at his telegraphed passes, but he's still a much better passer than probably anyone outside of Lillard and Blake on our team. Sure, we can start Crabbe and he'd be a passable defender and a better 3 point shooter, but he's a 3 and D sit in the corner-ish type on offense. That puts way mor pressure on Lillard to facilitate more of the offense.
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This is important. Batum allows Lillard to be Lillard, in the same way Lopez allows LaMarcus to be LaMarcus.

Synergy, for the win!
 
BBert said:
This is important. Batum allows Lillard to be Lillard, in the same way Lopez allows LaMarcus to be LaMarcus.

Synergy, for the win!
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Lillard played his best ball of the season without Nic in the lineup. I actually think Dame plays better when he dominates the ball more.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Lillard played his best ball of the season without Nic in the lineup. I actually think Dame plays better when he dominates the ball more.
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Damn you and your infernal logic! [/"Bones"]
 
In the four games without Batum:

Vs Charlotte - 29 points 12-21 shooting, 7 assists, 4 rebounds, 2 steals

@ Denver - 27 points 10-16 shooting, 9 assists, 5 rebounds, 2 steals

Vs Brooklyn - 28 points 8-14 shooting, 10 assists, 5 rebounds

Vs New Orleans - 24 points 7-18 shooting, 7 assists, 4 rebounds, 2 steals

During those four games he averaged 27 points, 8.25 assists, 4.5 rebounds, and 1.5 steals on 54% shooting. He also won Western Conference player of the week. His seasonal averages are currently 20 ppg, 6 assists, 5 rebounds, on 45% shooting.
 
Natebishop3 said:
In the four games without Batum:

Vs Charlotte - 29 points 12-21 shooting, 7 assists, 4 rebounds, 2 steals

@ Denver - 27 points 10-16 shooting, 9 assists, 5 rebounds, 2 steals

Vs Brooklyn - 28 points 8-14 shooting, 10 assists, 5 rebounds

Vs New Orleans - 24 points 7-18 shooting, 7 assists, 4 rebounds, 2 steals

During those four games he averaged 27 points, 8.25 assists, 4.5 rebounds, and 1.5 steals on 54% shooting. He also won Western Conference player of the week. His seasonal averages are currently 20 ppg, 6 assists, 5 rebounds, on 45% shooting.
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And we were playing against some stellar competition, to boot!
 
Boston is willing to give up Rondo for a first and Wright from Dallas, we should offer up Batum and figure this shit out later. Rondo has to be worth more in a trade than Batum.
 
You could play Rondo with Monta the same way you can play Rondo with Lillard - Damian is bigger than Monta too.

But with Wes due for a huge payday this has no chance.
 
santeesioux said:
Boston is willing to give up Rondo for a first and Wright from Dallas, we should offer up Batum and figure this shit out later. Rondo has to be worth more in a trade than Batum.
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Rondo is horrible in a lot of ways. I would move him to a third team though.
 
Should we have a Crabbe tracker as well? The kid has a future but he is no were near ready to take over for Batum.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
Should we have a Crabbe tracker as well? The kid has a future but he is no were near ready to take over for Batum.
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Jeff Green. I would do the trade right now. Put together two deals with the Celts that send us Green and Brandan Wright.
 
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