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#13 Utah acquired third pick from Portland for picks 6 and 27 and a future first-rounder (2005) Cohen’s Analysis: The Jazz used the No. 3 pick on Deron Williams, who to this point of his career had his best days in Utah. In fact, he led the Jazz to the conference finals in just his second year in the NBA. Credit to Utah for landing D-Will at the right time and trading him (to Nets in 2011) at the right time also. The Blazers took Martell Webster and Linas Kleiza (traded to Denver) with the sixth and 27th picks.








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If the front office responded to every rumor floating around, they would have no time for anything else.
 
Hoopguru said:
Thats my point if they have a specific player they absolutely want trade up. I think it's more like top 5 or 6 and if the guy we want is there, why not at least try.
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I am not sure this draft predicts a sure bet in 5-6 like it projects for 1-3(Not even sure 1-3 projects as sure bets?) So why give up more assets to move up 1-2 spots for what will likely be the same type of player regardless?

I would rather move down 1-2 spots to gain another pick and still have the draft option of a similar player in 8-10 as we had at 5-7.
That seems like a higher chance of making us better than giving up something to move up a couple spots to draft within the same caliber tier of players.
What would it take to move into the top three? I would be more interested in that than moving to 5-6.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
You're right, they should. Put out there how excited we are about the quality of players we will have available to choose from at that slot. Mention how many of them should be able to contribute from day 1. Or even talk about how this is clearly a 7-person draft, and we are incredibly fortunate to be in that position.

They won't, and even if they did it would be incredibly transparent, but they should.
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you don't think having essentially the entire FO as well as Dame sit front row for the Daniels workout is enough? i think we are well past the day of (as you say... transparent) smokescreens.

i tend to think they'll explore all options and do their due diligence to vet the potential draftees sufficiently before deciding whether to move the pick. Whether their evaluations end up being correct is another issue, but at least they'll do the work.
 
BlazerBender said:
I am not sure this draft predicts a sure bet in 5-6 like it projects for 1-3(Not even sure 1-3 projects as sure bets?) So why give up more assets to move up 1-2 spots for what will likely be the same type of player regardless?

I would rather move down 1-2 spots to gain another pick and still have the draft option of a similar player in 8-10 as we had at 5-7.
That seems like a higher chance of making us better than giving up something to move up a couple spots to draft within the same caliber tier of players.
What would it take to move into the top three? I would be more interested in that than moving to 5-6.
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Say Murray is the guy 100%, Chauncey, Dame & Joe, but they dont think he would be there at 7 and he should be there at 4-6?
He's the guy that could come in and contribute at the 3/4 and if we acquired another forward vet, we'd be in decent shape.
I do like Sochan and if thats who the blazers have targeted, him or Eason trade down but how far?
 
illmatic99 said:
you don't think having essentially the entire FO as well as Dame sit front row for the Daniels workout is enough? i think we are well past the day of (as you say... transparent) smokescreens.

i tend to think they'll explore all options and do their due diligence to vet the potential draftees sufficiently before deciding whether to move the pick. Whether their evaluations end up being correct is another issue, but at least they'll do the work.
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No, that's awesome. I wasn't aware until this morning that they had done that. That's exactly the kind of organizational interest/ excitement over this pick that I wanted to see.
 
The Blazers should never acknowledge or respond to rumors. Only exception is to help a current member of the roster.

But I don't like any of the rhetoric from Cronin and Dame. It appears their delusional of the talent on this roster, and how to build assets long term to become a contender. Hope I get proven wrong.
 
Hoopguru said:
Say Murray is the guy 100%, Chauncey, Dame & Joe, but they dont think he would be there at 7 and he should be there at 4-6?
He's the guy that could come in and contribute at the 3/4 and if we acquired another forward vet, we'd be in decent shape.
I do like Sochan and if thats who the blazers have targeted, him or Eason trade down but how far?
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That is tough because unless we trade up to four, which may cost way more than I would personally like to give up, we are still taking a chance of trading up and not getting the guy we coveted.
It seems in order to do so, it would require some sort of inside knowledge/agreement with the teams above us that we either know who they are drafting, or know they will not draft our guy. Otherwise that seems like a serious gamble… depending on what we have to give up.
What would you be willing to give up to trade up to 4?
 
BlazerBender said:
That is tough because unless we trade up to four, which may cost way more than I would personally like to give up, we are still taking a chance of trading up and not getting the guy we coveted.
It seems in order to do so, it would require some sort of inside knowledge/agreement with the teams above us that we either know who they are drafting, or know they will not draft our guy. Otherwise that seems like a serious gamble… depending on what we have to give up.
What would you be willing to give up to trade up to 4?
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7 and Milwaukees and/or youngster.
 
illmatic99 said:
I think all this worry is much ado about nothing.

It is extremely rare for a team to trade a lottery pick for an established player. If anything, most of these trades in the past have been to shuffle the order around, but the last lottery pick I could find who was traded strictly for a player alone was Indiana's #12 pick in 2016. It just doesn't happen. Here are all the trades involving lottery picks over the past few yrs (i'll keep adding).
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As a Blazer fan I'm not sure if that is encouraging or depressing.

All rumors and insiders point to us actively looking at trading the #7 lottery pick for non-star veterans. So if that happens, I guess your point is the Blazers would be a historically stupid franchise.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
As a Blazer fan I'm not sure if that is encouraging or depressing.

All rumors and insiders point to us actively looking at trading the #7 lottery pick for non-star veterans. So if that happens, I guess your point is the Blazers would be a historically stupid franchise.
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damnit, i was trying to edit that post, but deleted by accident. that was about 20 mins wasted.

Anyways... only three lottery picks out of the past 10 years of drafts (150 picks) have been traded in deals involving only established players coming back in exchange.

- 2016: Indiana trade #12 and Goerge Hill for Jeff Teague
- 2014: CLE traded #1 for Kevin Love.
-2013: NO traded #6 for Jrue Holiday.
 
Hoopguru said:
7 and Milwaukees and/or youngster.
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what if Milwaukee becomes a lottery pick?
Is 7 & say 12 worth the number four in this draft if we have to also give up one of Little or Ant?(assuming youngster means rookie contract with good upside potential?)

Seems like alot to give up for a player that isn't a sure fire starter from the get go?
 
BlazerBender said:
what if Milwaukee becomes a lottery pick?
Is 7 & say 12 worth the number four in this draft if we have to also give up one of Little or Ant?(assuming youngster means rookie contract with good upside potential?)

Seems like alot to give up for a player that isn't a sure fire starter from the get go?
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rather not give up Milwaukee, I would do 7 & something else futures and/or youngsters.
Now if Houston was interested in 7, Little for 3? in a minute.
 
Hoopguru said:
rather not give up Milwaukee, I would do 7 & something else futures and/or youngsters.
Now if Houston was interested in 7, Little for 3? in a minute.
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I'll actually be a little discouraged if we don't use the Milwaukee pick in a trade this offseason. If we're serious about building a contender around Dame as soon as possible and can get good value that impacts playoff wins this upcoming season, out of a pick that projects to be in the back half of that draft we definitely should.
 
Hoopguru said:
rather not give up Milwaukee, I would do 7 & something else futures and/or youngsters.
Now if Houston was interested in 7, Little for 3? in a minute.
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I am of the opposite. I would like to use the Milwaukie pick now in a trade, trade down with our 7. Draft the better of the two and use the lower of the two in another trade.
Use the Milwaukie and lower of this years two picks in trade and draft with the better of the two.
We still get to draft a lotto pick and have two firsts to also use in trades.
I think this is the only way to bring in impact players now, while still drafting for the future.
 
RonBrewer said:
Needs to come out and make a statement that they covet the number 7 pick and absolutely not trade it unless they get something incredible in return.

Some of these damn rumors are pathetic. Grow some GD Balls.

Oh and if this has been covered i didn't see it so you folks that post on here 100x per day. Sorry if i offended you and you have to weed through one more thread to find that thread you have already posted in five times today.

RIP CITY!!!!!
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Absolutely!
They need to make sure to tell the entire league their thoughts and intentions.
Are you serious??
 
blazerkor said:
I'll actually be a little discouraged if we don't use the Milwaukee pick in a trade this offseason. If we're serious about building a contender around Dame as soon as possible and can get good value that impacts playoff wins this upcoming season, out of a pick that projects to be in the back half of that draft we definitely should.
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I really don't think its worth all that much right now
 
Wade Garrett said:
Absolutely!
They need to make sure to tell the entire league their thoughts and intentions.
Are you serious??
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Not their actual thoughts and intentions; just the hypothetical thoughts and intentions of a franchise that will expect a king's ransom for the most valuable trade asset they have.
 
Wade Garrett said:
Absolutely!
They need to make sure to tell the entire league their thoughts and intentions.
Are you serious??
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yeah....we need a raw raw raw raw, warm and fuzzy statement from the Blazers! not
 
I would absolutely trade the 2025 protected first rounder for Grant or OG. That's it.

With the 36 pick, i see big time value in Auburns Walker Kessler and/or Arkansas Jaylin Williams.
 
STOMP said:
because of rumors? Good grief man, every single offseason & trade deadline rumors have Portland giving away their assets to the big markets. Rumors are clickbait not reality.

STOMP
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That coupled with the fact that we have received dog shit in return over the past recent transactions. No to the Rumors.

Just a simple "We've seen the rumors and that is all they are. We have a lot of guys we will take with the seventh pick and we have contingencies on all of them".

I just hate it that the pick is undervalued and everything thinks we are gonna dump it. Folks will try to take advantage of the Rookie.
 
Damian Lillard
Josh Hart
Jusef Nurkic
Justise Winslow
Anfernee Simons
Nassir Little
Trendon Watford

if on the roster, those guys will get playing time. one or two additions via free agency or trades plus a 7th pick (unless included in trade). I would give that team about till the trade deadline and either they’re tinkering with it and feeling good or it’s blow up time.
 
RonBrewer said:
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That coupled with the fact that we have received dog shit in return over the past recent transactions. No to the Rumors.

Just a simple "We've seen the rumors and that is all they are. We have a lot of guys we will take with the seventh pick and we have contingencies on all of them".

I just hate it that the pick is undervalued and everything thinks we are gonna dump it. Folks will try to take advantage of the Rookie.
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Of course they will, doesn't mean it will happen though. You sound like you need a hug.

STOMP
 
Too many people in here think other teams are getting intel like we do…from the media.
Teams know what teams are trying to accomplish. You don’t know what Cronin is saying to other GMs
 
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