The Case for Jake

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Jake needs to work on his 3 point shot. If he could get it up around 40% he will be absolutely lethal. He has so many ways to create open 3's for himself. He's quick, ALWAYS moving, great back-door threat, can drive and finish, is long, fairly quick release, even showed the ability to step back 3. There are so many things to love about Jake... he's a natural.
 
tlongII said:
Based on his size and athleticism for one. Those other guys don't have it like Collins. Is he foul prone? Yes. But that will decrease over time. I expect him to improve significantly between now and the end of the season, and I expect an even bigger jump next year. As long as he stays in the weight room he'll be fine. The only thing he's short on right now is strength. That will change.
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The other area he might be short in, and this has surprised me, is he might not be as mentally tough as he needs to be. He needs to stay positive and on an even keel when things don't go right.
 
joeBlazers said:
I honestly believe, we need to find a way to limit the number of shots CJ takes and give those shots to Jake. Instead of seeing CJ go 5-20 or crap like that, I rather put Jake (even at the #2, because he can't defend worse than CJ) and go from there.
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True CJ had 2 games in November where he was in the 5-20 crap range...
But from December 1st on.....he is mostly shooting over 50% when he takes that many shots: Here they are:
11-23, 12-20, 9-21 10-20 16-27 11-22 14-21 13-23 9-20 , 17-26 13-24

I am all for Jake getting more shots. but there are other players other than CJ that would make more sense to shoot less. I get the hate for CJ is at an all time high, which is fucking idiotic IMO, but he is not taking 20 shots every night. There are plenty of nights he is only taking 12-14 shots. Bottom line we don't have to find a way for it to happen, it already is happening.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
True CJ had 2 games in November where he was in the 5-20 crap range...
But from December 1st on.....he is mostly shooting over 50% when he takes that many shots: Here they are:
11-23, 12-20, 9-21 10-20 16-27 11-22 14-21 13-23 9-20 , 17-26 13-24

I am all for Jake getting more shots. but there are other players other than CJ that would make more sense to shoot less. I get the hate for CJ is at an all time high, which is fucking idiotic IMO, but he is not taking 20 shots every night. There are plenty of nights he is only taking 12-14 shots. Bottom line we don't have to find a way for it to happen, it already is happening.
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One guy that should get less is Aminu. He averages 8 a game. That’s too many.
 
Scalma said:
One guy that should get less is Aminu. He averages 8 a game. That’s too many.
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and yet his shooting efficiency and scoring efficiency is up and his highest in his career and his shot attempts is the lowest since he has been a Blazer.
 
http://fansided.com/2019/01/26/jake-layman-dunkman/

Interesting stat

One of the plays takes advantage of Jusuf Nurkic’s ability to pass out of the high post. It’s an element of his game that he’s strengthened this year, and he’s averaging a career-best 3.2 assists per game. When Nurkic passes the ball to a teammate, no one on the team has a higher conversion rate than Layman’s 62.5 percent rate, according to NBA Stats.
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Finally came up with who Layman reminds me of. Many of you youngsters probably never saw him play, but Laynan exhibits some similarities to Billy Cunningham in his early years with the Sizers. Also, Jim Paxson was similar as well as he moved and cut extremely well off the ball also.
 
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Actually Jake doesn't remind me of many white players....his style of play is similar to a young Grant Hill before injury in my view...he moves without the ball like Rip Hamilton
 
riverman said:
Actually Jake doesn't remind me of many white players....his style of play is similar to a young Grant Hill before injury in my view...he moves without the ball like Rip Hamilton
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He’s an athletic Jim Paxson!
 
riverman said:
Actually Jake doesn't remind me of many white players....his style of play is similar to a young Grant Hill before injury in my view...he moves without the ball like Rip Hamilton
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I was thinking Hamilton too. Maybe a Tayshaun Prince? They are almost the exact same size and although Tayshaun was better defensively, they might be close offensively.
 
riverman said:
Actually Jake doesn't remind me of many white players....his style of play is similar to a young Grant Hill before injury in my view...he moves without the ball like Rip Hamilton
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You're about the same age as me, did you ever watch Billy Cunningham play? I was a huge Sixers fan growing up before the Blazers came along as Hal Greer was my favorite player but also enjoyed watching Cunningham play as he moved so well with and without the ball and was very smooth. Unfortunately it was during an era where not many games were televised.
 
Jack Marin was Billy Cunningham, Jr. for a few years.
 
Stotts was a 6-6 small forward. He may be vicariously living out his fantasies in how he has Layman play.
 
CupWizier said:
You're about the same age as me, did you ever watch Billy Cunningham play? I was a huge Sixers fan growing up before the Blazers came along as Hal Greer was my favorite player but also enjoyed watching Cunningham play as he moved so well with and without the ball and was very smooth. Unfortunately it was during an era where not many games were televised.
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I'll check him out on youtube...I remember him but I wasn't a Sixers fan back then....my first favorite team was the Bad Boys but even then they weren't on tv very often...I grew up with sports radio for the most part....in Iowa only the Harlem Globetrotters came to town an I loved them
 
I almost forgot this from Layman's rookie year:
“I thought we put together a really good game, other than Layman getting hot in the fourth quarter. Maybe he should be playing more,” Durant told reporters afterward.
Here is some more from the article:
“My first year definitely prepared me for my second year, to be able to handle not playing mentally,” he said. “Sometimes the mental game can bring guys down more than anything else. It’s just staying positive in your head, knowing things are going to get better. Keep working hard.

“My first two years definitely prepared me even more for this year. I would still keep that same mindset, keep that same maturity when I was going through it. And being more prepared and ready for those moments, so when I’m coming in and playing big minutes, just be ready to have an impact.”
“I started off the year playing with the starters, but I think it took a little time learning how to be effective with that group,” Layman said. “I think it’s just finally started to show, watching film, finding spots [to contribute], learning from vets like Moe Harkless, learning how to be effective with CJ [McCollum] and Damian [Lillard] on the court. There’s not really plays being run for you. Just learning how to impact the game on different levels.”

“That’s the biggest thing the coaching staff wants from me: always being aggressive,” Layman said. “Learning how to attack and make things happen out there. Recently I’ve been playing with our second unit, just always bringing that same mindset. To me, it really doesn’t matter. I’m in the rotation right now and if I didn’t play the next five games, it’ll still be the same for me. I’m prepared for moments like that.”
https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/terps/bs-sp-jake-layman-portland-0124-story.html
 
SheedSoNasty said:
Sounds like Layman is being a real pro and taking it all in stride. I hope Stotts sticks with him through cold stretches. He has shown to be a solid contributor over the span of 10 games.
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Imagine the looks Jake would get playing off of Nurk/AD/Dame..... #FearTheTurtle!
 
Scalma said:
Trade CJ in a package for AD and start Layman at SG lol.

Dame
Layman
Harkless Or Aminu
AD
Nurkic

Look at that length!
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Layman is not a shooting guard and without a secondary ball handler in the lineup teams will go hard after Lillard to get the ball out of his hands.
 
CupWizier said:
Layman is not a shooting guard and without a secondary ball handler in the lineup teams will go hard after Lillard to get the ball out of his hands.
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AD would be the secondary ball handler.
 
CupWizier said:
Layman is not a shooting guard and without a secondary ball handler in the lineup teams will go hard after Lillard to get the ball out of his hands.
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It’s not about having ball handlers, it’s about having guys that can pass the ball. Nurkic and A.D. are both plus facilitators. Besides, Layman can handle the ball and create better than both Aminu and Moe.
 
Scalma said:
It’s not about having ball handlers, it’s about having guys that can pass the ball. Nurkic and A.D. are both plus facilitators. Besides, Layman can handle the ball and create better than both Aminu and Moe.
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You need ball handlers. That's what makes GS so effective along with their shooting.
 
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