The Cavs target LMA

[Scalma]

Re: The Cavs target LMAo

If the Cavs were to offer #1 and Michael Bennett, would you do it?

In response to Nate, I think this organization is sold that this core can get it done. Not only are they sold but they got me sold on the idea. I think LA and Batum both have another level or two they haven't reached. I feel the same about Dame. If they make a few adjustments in the depth and defensively and these three hit these levels at the same time. This core can do it. The longer they play together as a unit, the better and more seasoned they will get. In two years, LA, Dame and Nic will have something similar to what Duncan,Parker and Ginoboli have. And they have 10 years together.

The team likes each other. They like the coach. If the chemistry remains and with enough maturation. They have a title or two in them.

I agree with this. While it might be nice to think about getting Embiid or Wiggins, the core is set here that most other teams would kill to have. Why do you think Cleveland wants Aldridge? Just upgrade the bench, maybe trade for a mid 1st, clear out some of the clutter (bench players like Claver, Leonard, Crabbe, Barton, Freeland, and Wright could all be used in a trade. Maybe even CJ) and lets see what happens.

 

[Denny Crane]

I think there's another reason. Do you think this core (Lillard/Aldridge/Batum) is enough to ever win a championship? If you do not, you have to seriously think about changing the core. We can add bench players, and possibly even get to the WCF, but the last team to win a championship without multiple Hall Of Famers on their roster was the Pistons in 2003, and they had the DPOY.

Billups was a 7-time all-star and MVP of the finals that season. There wasn't a defender in any playoff series that could keep between him and the basket.

Sheed was no slouch, either.

 

[Scalma]

Billups was a 7-time all-star and MVP of the finals that season. There wasn't a defender in any playoff series that could keep between him and the basket.

Sheed was no slouch, either.

Billups wasnt an all star until 2005 and he was never known for attacking the basket. He was a lights out long range shooter. Are you sure you're talking about Chauncey Billups? His FG % was under .400 in the playoffs and the regular season, so I'm pretty sure he wasn't driving anywhere at will

 

[Denny Crane]

Billups wasnt an all star until 2005 and he was never known for attacking the basket. He was a lights out long range shooter. Are you sure you're talking about Chauncey Billups? His FG % was under .400 in the playoffs and the regular season, so I'm pretty sure he wasn't driving anywhere at will

Yes, he drove at will.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/playoffs/2004-06-16-billups-mvp_x.htm

The 6-foot-3, 202-pounder found himself open countless times on pick-and-roll plays, and one-on-one moves against Gary Payton and Derek Fisher over the first four games.

 

[Scalma]

Yes, he drove at will.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/playoffs/2004-06-16-billups-mvp_x.htm

The 6-foot-3, 202-pounder found himself open countless times on pick-and-roll plays, and one-on-one moves against Gary Payton and Derek Fisher over the first four games.

We have different opinions of what "driving" means then. Going around a pick to get open is not one of them. neither is pulling up on an iso

 

[Denny Crane]

We have different opinions of what "driving" means then. Going around a pick to get open is not one of them. neither is pulling up on an iso

Since you like stats...

 

[BBert]

Unless LaMarcus demands a trade, or states very clearly he will not resign with Portland, you do not trade him for an unproven draft pick, or for an unproven draft pick and another average value player.

Ergo, if the Blazers trade Aldridge for less than a proven all star, it will be because he did one of those two things.

All indications are that the Blazers are in 'win now' mode, not 'rebuild' mode. Chances are, LaMarcus will be a Blazer next season.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Unless LaMarcus demands a trade, or states very clearly he will not resign with Portland, you do not trade him for an unproven draft pick, or for an unproven draft pick and another average value player.

Ergo, if the Blazers trade Aldridge for less than a proven all star, it will be because he did one of those two things.

All indications are that the Blazers are in 'win now' mode, not 'rebuild' mode. Chances are, LaMarcus will be a Blazer next season.

So what if that unproven player becomes the next big thing in the NBA? Just asking. Might I also add when Kobe got drafted a lot of people where saying that he should have went to college to play ball.

 

[Pritchslap Madness]

The only way I accept a LA trade for #1 pick would be if Kyrie Irving was included. Maybe a future first also. I haven't seen any indication that LA going to leave Portland. If that changes then of course trading him becomes a good option.

 

[BigGameDamian]

The only way I accept a LA trade for #1 pick would be if Kyrie Irving was included. Maybe a future first also. I haven't seen any indication that LA going to leave Portland. If that changes then of course trading him becomes a good option.

What would Portland do with both Lillard and Irving? Make one a backup

 

[Pritchslap Madness]

What would Portland do with both Lillard and Irving? Make one a backup

One as PG and SG but interchangeable. Could be deadly both 6'3".

 

[BigGameDamian]

One as PG and SG but interchangeable. Could be deadly both 6'3".

Well aren't we all preaching about defense?

 

[Pritchslap Madness]

Well aren't we all preaching about defense?

Defense would be a issue. That's why we draft a defensive center with that #1 pick. But my real point is that they need to sell the farm to get LA.

 

[PapaG]

Defense would be a issue. That's why we draft a defensive center with that #1 pick. But my real point is that they need to sell the farm to get LA.

I hear there's this Oden guy who went to Ohio State who may be the next Bill Russell!

 

[OneLifeToLive]

The only way I accept a LA trade for #1 pick would be if Kyrie Irving was included. Maybe a future first also. I haven't seen any indication that LA going to leave Portland. If that changes then of course trading him becomes a good option.

There is no way you are going to get Chris Paul and potentially LeBron James all for LaMarcus Aldridge.

 

[Reep]

I hear there's this Oden guy who went to Ohio State who may be the next Bill Russell!

Well, they both have 80-year-old knees. Is that what you meant?

 

[GoBlazersGo]

There is no way you are going to get Chris Paul and potentially LeBron James all for LaMarcus Aldridge.

Well, obviously nobody would trade Chris Paul & LeBron for Aldridge... that's just plain RETARDED!

That said... Kyrie Irving is NOWHERE NEAR the player that Chris Paul was when he first came into the league! And, LeBron... !? Who's the "LeBron James" that's available in this draft!?

 

[Sinobas]

If we dealt LA for the #1 pick, it wouldn't just be for the pick, but for the cap space. Or if Cleveland wanted to shed Jarrett Jack.

But with cap space we might be able to sign Monroe, Deng, Bledsoe or a collection of improved bench players.

 

[PapaG]

If we dealt LA for the #1 pick, it wouldn't just be for the pick, but for the cap space. Or if Cleveland wanted to shed Jarrett Jack.

But with cap space we might be able to sign Monroe, Deng, Bledsoe or a collection of improved bench players.

So, a bunch of players worse than LMA, and a draft pick who may or may not pan out as an All-Star player.

 

[Denny Crane]

If you figure you can lose with him or lose without him, you may as well take a home run swing (make the trade).

If you think you can add pieces to the team and get over the top, keep him.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

After having the best most exciting season in over a decade, why would Blazer fans want to start all over? Can't imagine Allen wants that.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

Well, obviously nobody would trade Chris Paul & LeBron for Aldridge... that's just plain RETARDED!

That said... Kyrie Irving is NOWHERE NEAR the player that Chris Paul was when he first came into the league! And, LeBron... !? Who's the "LeBron James" that's available in this draft!?

Here's the prob I'm not sure LA = Kyrie Irving in value let alone throwing in another first rounder for him.

So when I read, the only way someone would move LA for the first rounder is if Kyrie is included, I understandably scratch my head.

 

[PapaG]

After having the best most exciting season in over a decade, why would Blazer fans want to start all over? Can't imagine Allen wants that.

He doesn't. Olshey even said so. Yet here we are, discussing the same stuff over and over again. Let's get the Finals over and get to the draft/summer FA period. That's where I imagine we as Blazer fans will be surprised by some moves to bring in a better bench.

 

[PapaG]

Here's the prob I'm not sure LA = Kyrie Irving let alone throwing in another first rounder .

The move that makes sense for Cleveland would be to trade Lillard and a future first to Cleveland for Irving and the #1 pick this year. I have yet to see a convincing post on why LMA would sign a max deal with Cleveland after next season. I don't see it.

 

[B-Roy]

The move that makes sense for Cleveland would be to trade Lillard and a future first to Cleveland for Irving and the #1 pick this year. I have yet to see a convincing post on why LMA would sign a max deal with Cleveland after next season. I don't see it.

How is that fair for the Cavs?

 

[Strenuus]

How is that fair for the Cavs?

Because they get the better point guard with a better head on his shoulders.

 

[B-Roy]

Because they get the better point guard with a better head on his shoulders.

Who has the higher trade value between Irving and Lillard is debatable, but the Cavs have to add the #1 overall pick on top of it??? Come on, that's ridiculous.

 

[PapaG]

Who has the higher trade value between Irving and Lillard is debatable, but the Cavs have to add the #1 overall pick on top of it??? Come on, that's ridiculous.

Is it anymore ridiculous than sending Irving and the #1 to Portland for LMA, who won't re-sign there? At least Lillard has 3 more years of a contract, if he makes the decision to accept the Q.O. so he can get out of Cleveland, too.

 

[RR7]

The move that makes sense for Cleveland would be to trade Lillard and a future first to Cleveland for Irving and the #1 pick this year. I have yet to see a convincing post on why LMA would sign a max deal with Cleveland after next season. I don't see it.

Well, because it's a max deal, so it's more money than he can get anywhere else. In theory, he wants to win. He's going to have an easier time making the playoffs in the east than in the west. SO he gets what he can also get here. 5 year max, and an opportunity to make the playoffs. If the deal was Waiters, Thompson and 1, let's say, it gives them roughly 10 million dollars in cap space.
They can trot out Irving/SG/Deng/Aldridge/Varejao
with Jack, Hawes, Bennett off the bench, and a full MLE still to use as well. That team can easily compete for HCA in the much weaker east. Why would he leave?

 

[B-Roy]

Is it anymore ridiculous than sending Irving and the #1 to Portland for LMA, who won't re-sign there? At least Lillard has 3 more years of a contract, if he makes the decision to accept the Q.O. so he can get out of Cleveland, too.

I never said that wasn't ridiculous either.