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Trading Aldridge for the #1 and players like Anderson Varejao, Tristan Thompson, Jarrett Jack, Dion Waiters isn't as big of step back as some make it out to be.
 
Trading Aldridge for the #1 and players like Anderson Varejao, Tristan Thompson, Jarrett Jack, Dion Waiters isn't as big of step back as some make it out to be.

Lets say the trade was #1, TT/Jack whoever we take at #1 even if they come out and play really well we are going to be fighting for the 8th spot and our ceiling will be dictated on how quickly and how well that #1 pick develops. There is a very good chance that player doesn't' even turn out to be as good as LA.
 
Lets say the trade was #1, TT/Jack whoever we take at #1 even if they come out and play really well we are going to be fighting for the 8th spot and our ceiling will be dictated on how quickly and how well that #1 pick develops. There is a very good chance that player doesn't' even turn out to be as good as LA.

Ya it's a gamble but also keeping Aldridge is a gamble. He will be a free agent and will take up a lot of cap room. Not to mention if we did trade him the Blazers would get to go shopping in free agency.
 
Trading Aldridge for the #1 and players like Anderson Varejao, Tristan Thompson, Jarrett Jack, Dion Waiters isn't as big of step back as some make it out to be.
It isn't a step back. It's three steps, a handspring, and a little hop back.
 
Quit over exaggerating.
Not exaggerating a bit. We're climbing the ladder, and we're on a higher rung than we've been on for a long, long time. There's no logical reason to climb back down the ladder because we think there might be another ladder somewhere nearby that might be almost as good.

Trading LaMarcus for a draft pick is a terrible, terrible idea.
 
Not exaggerating a bit. We're climbing the ladder, and we're on a higher rung than we've been on for a long, long time. There's no logical reason to climb back down the ladder because we think there might be another ladder somewhere nearby that might be almost as good.

Trading LaMarcus for a draft pick is a terrible, terrible idea.
Not if he is going to leave us for nothing. That's the debate. Will he stay or go
 
Not exaggerating a bit. We're climbing the ladder, and we're on a higher rung than we've been on for a long, long time. There's no logical reason to climb back down the ladder because we think there might be another ladder somewhere nearby that might be almost as good.

Trading LaMarcus for a draft pick is a terrible, terrible idea.

You enjoy that tall ladder that is not quite tall enough to get the job done you need it for. Especially when that aging ladder cost 4 times as much as this new extension ladder that may be tall enough to finish the job or might not even reach as high as the current ladder.
 
You enjoy that tall ladder that is not quite tall enough to get the job done you need it for. Especially when that aging ladder cost 4 times as much as this new extension ladder that may be tall enough to finish the job or might not even reach as high as the current ladder.
Our shiney new tall ladders have a habit of breaking. Some of us are a bit ladder shy. ;)
 
Trading LaMarcus for a draft pick is a terrible, terrible idea.

If this were the Anthony Davis draft, you make the deal. Since there's no clear cut #1 right now, I can't trust the organization with their track record at picking so high if you are trading your best player.

If LaMarcus doesn't want to resign here, I think moving him at the deadline would get you the best value from teams looking to make a title run.
 
If this were the Anthony Davis draft, you make the deal. Since there's no clear cut #1 right now, I can't trust the organization with their track record at picking so high if you are trading your best player.

If LaMarcus doesn't want to resign here, I think moving him at the deadline would get you the best value from teams looking to make a title run.
Teams looking to make a title run aren't going to give up valuable players - they'll need them for their title run.
And teams that might otherwise like to get him won't just want a 3 month rental.
His value will never be higher than it is this summer.
 
If this were the Anthony Davis draft, you make the deal. Since there's no clear cut #1 right now, I can't trust the organization with their track record at picking so high if you are trading your best player.

If LaMarcus doesn't want to resign here, I think moving him at the deadline would get you the best value from teams looking to make a title run.

You try to make that deal but there is no way LA would have got that pick from New Orleans. Durant, Lebron and maybe Chris Paul to any other team are about it as far as names that would be considered for a pick of that caliber
 
If you filter it down to players that played at least 41 games and had to defend at least 3 shots per game at the rim, LA ranks 51st in the league. Lopez would rank 5th behind Biyombo, Perkins, HIbbert and Gobert.

LA's percentage is just a shade worse than Carmelo Anthony's. Some other people that rank better than him David Lee,Amare Stoudamire,Tyler Zeller,David West.

Now sure how you can say he's not average at best at that stat.
 
Also, if you only look at players who have played at least 41 games at 10 mpg. LaMarcus ranks 220th in eFG% Fucking Travis Outlaw is ahead of him. That's out of a list of 271 players. Not many below him are worth a damn on offense.
 
Another LA stat, people tout his rebounding numbers. But guess who is #1 in the league in contested rebounding%? Robin Lopez.

Guess who is number 164? LaMarcus Aldridge. Only 27% of his rebounds are contested. The people around him are guards and PFs. So while LA ranks 7th in the league in rebounding, he's 36th in contested rebounds.
 
Another LA stat, people tout his rebounding numbers. But guess who is #1 in the league in contested rebounding%? Robin Lopez.

Guess who is number 164? LaMarcus Aldridge. Only 27% of his rebounds are contested. The people around him are guards and PFs. So while LA ranks 7th in the league in rebounding, he's 36th in contested rebounds.
Lopez is why LMA rebounding numbers jumped so significantly this year. Lopez would box out, and leave LMA for the board.
 
Another LA stat, people tout his rebounding numbers. But guess who is #1 in the league in contested rebounding%? Robin Lopez.

Guess who is number 164? LaMarcus Aldridge. Only 27% of his rebounds are contested. The people around him are guards and PFs. So while LA ranks 7th in the league in rebounding, he's 36th in contested rebounds.

They weren't contested because Lopez did all the contesting of other players.

I want to play this cool new game where a stat tells me everything! Please, oh please, is it my turn yet?
 
Lopez is why LMA rebounding numbers jumped so significantly this year. Lopez would box out, and leave LMA for the board.

Anthony Davis' rebounding went up without Lopez next to him. Maybe trade RoLo for Greg Stiemsma? It would clear up more cap space, and LMA's rebounding would increase with the Steamer boxing out players instead of Lopez.
 
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Anthony Davis' rebounding went up without Lopez next to him. Maybe trade RoLo for Greg Stiemsma? It would clear up more cap space, and LMA's rebounding would increase with the Steamer boxing out players instead of Lopez.
his rebounding percentages actually went down this year.
 
I'm not sure what the right deal is...

First of all, I think this team can win a championship with this core. But I think if they do win one, it would be just one. I don't think anyone would complain about that. If you can get one. That is one more than what most teams have at the end of the day. But I don't see anymore than that. And if they do get it, I think a lot of luck would have to be had to get that one.

I disagree with those that say there isn't a blue chip prospect in this draft. I think a lot of other insiders would agree. Andrew Wiggins was very highly touted coming out of college. Just as highly touted as any that I can remember in recent memory and maybe since Oden. There is a reason for that. He is a baller. He can play.

What I hope in the end is that this organization is not putting to much of an emphasis on what happened last year, the excitement that was had that in the end clouds their logic and perspective. If there is a player in the draft that is franchise changing. I think they better seriously think about adding him.The team as it stands has success in it but I think it's limited.

All I ask, is for the organization to do it's due diligence, remove any emotions of what happened last year and make the best overall basketball decision.

In other words, I like the poster. But don't be a Wookie.
 
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his rebounding percentages actually went down this year.

Davis' per/36 went up, and his TRB% went from 16.6 to 16.8 according to Basketball Reference. Unless you meant another player?

:dunno:
 
Lopez's TRB% went up, too, along with his per/36 numbers. Maybe RoLo took rebounds away from LMA?
 
Also, if you only look at players who have played at least 41 games at 10 mpg. LaMarcus ranks 220th in eFG% Fucking Travis Outlaw is ahead of him. That's out of a list of 271 players. Not many below him are worth a damn on offense.

I'm convinced . . . Outlaw is better than LMA
 

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