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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Jul 27 2008, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 27 2008, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Would it be bad if I watched a (good) Cam of the movie and then went to see it in movies after?

Because I told this girl I'd see it with her and she isn't free until wed/thurs, and waiting is a bitch</div>

It would be bad. I watched 5 mins of a cam after seeing it in theaters, and I have to say that it ruins the experience, at least for me. My recommendation is that you wait for DVD quality version or see it in theaters.

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Damn, this is gonna be a rough 5 days
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 27 2008, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Jul 27 2008, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 27 2008, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Would it be bad if I watched a (good) Cam of the movie and then went to see it in movies after?

Because I told this girl I'd see it with her and she isn't free until wed/thurs, and waiting is a bitch</div>

It would be bad. I watched 5 mins of a cam after seeing it in theaters, and I have to say that it ruins the experience, at least for me. My recommendation is that you wait for DVD quality version or see it in theaters.

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Damn, this is gonna be a rough 5 days

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But in the end I'm sure it'll be worth it.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ Jul 25 2008, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Its gotta be the best super hero movie I've ever seen though.</div>

I just saw Sin City again yesterday. It is interesting how much wittier and advanced the dialogue is in that movie, and the stories there seem more structured with a better flow. I enjoyed that movie more so I wouldn't say Batman is technically the best comic book movie ever. Although Sin City is a "graphic novel" (maybe a future genre too) too (like some Batman comics).
 
Okay first of all Yama's a beast

I finished the movie this morning but couldn't really comment because I was busy. Anyways, great movie. Probably one of the best movies I've seen in a long time. Christian Bale was awesome, and Heath was great as the Joker. Not much more I can say about this movie that hasn't been said before, I'm definitely getting this on DVD.

But I have a couple of questions

<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Is Fox, Morgan Freemon's character going to be back for the next movie? Also, did anyone find it odd how Bruce didn't really react that much to Rachel's death? I thought they were friends from birth. I personally expected a little more drama...

Also, another question, this is actually about the first movie. I saw it a while ago so I don't really remember, but what was Bruce doing in the beginning of Batman Begins? Was he in a prison or something, and why? Was it ever explained?</span>
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jul 27 2008, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ Jul 25 2008, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Its gotta be the best super hero movie I've ever seen though.</div>

I just saw Sin City again yesterday. It is interesting how much wittier and advanced the dialogue is in that movie, and the stories there seem more structured with a better flow. I enjoyed that movie more so I wouldn't say Batman is technically the best comic book movie ever. Although Sin City is a "graphic novel" (maybe a future genre too) too (like some Batman comics).
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I fuggin HATED that movie. I guess I just didn't get it or something but it was hyped up like crazy but all I ever saw in it was a big fat POS gift wrapped in this weird shaddowy looking art style that made everyone cream themselves. Sooooooooo fuggin boring. Literally turned it off, didn't even watch the whole movie because I was so damn bored with all the stories and the godamn movie wouldn't end.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>But I have a couple of questions

<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Is Fox, Morgan Freemon's character going to be back for the next movie? Also, did anyone find it odd how Bruce didn't really react that much to Rachel's death? I thought they were friends from birth. I personally expected a little more drama...

Also, another question, this is actually about the first movie. I saw it a while ago so I don't really remember, but what was Bruce doing in the beginning of Batman Begins? Was he in a prison or something, and why? Was it ever explained?</span></div>
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Dunno about the first question but yes, it was explained why Bruce was in a prison ins some under-developed asian village. Bruce went to kill the man who murdered his father because he was in court for something (maybe parole? or he was bieng released? I don't know why but he was out of prison and in court somewhere in Gotham). Bruce was waiting for the guy in the lobby of the court house but right as the guy left the court room someone else came in and assassinated him before Bruce could. Bruce was pissed because he was waiting so long to do that, so he told Rachel, who then dropped him off at Falcone's (the corrupt mayor) hangout, can't remember why exactly but she wanted him to go tell Falcone to his face or something. So Bruce does confront Falcone and Falcone basically tells him that hes just a rich bitch and he doesn't know anything about crime, the streets, poor people, etc. so Bruce leaves right there and lives as a "thief" for the next like 7 years IIRC. Eventually hes caught and arrested somewhere in asia, which is why hes in the prison at the beginning. From there hes approached by the guy from the league of shadows.

BTW just checked wiki and it says one of Falcone's henchmen killed the murderer of Bruce's father. Thats probably why Bruce confronted Falcone.</span>
 
I'm still loving it a day later. I thought it was fitting that a trailer for "The Watchmen" aired right before the movie, because it was really similar to that graphic novel. Both transcended the comic book genre and really touched on deeper themes about morality, society, and the whole "hero" concept.

Two Face has to be the focus of the third movie (if they make it) the more I think about it. This movie was so great because it emphasized some of the stronger themes from the comics. The other Batman villains are all great, but making any of them the focus would just create another hero/villain film and that'd be a huge letdown after this one. Two Face is such a deep and complex character that he could avoid that.
 
Oh, thanks for clearing it up

Stupid me, I didn't know the beginning was a flashback (I'm not too bright I guess)
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I'm still loving it a day later.</div>

I'm still loving it a week later.


I'm so tempted to download a cam version of the movie, but that's going to ruin it, even if it's a second viewing. C'mon, DVD quality version!

I also watched Batman Begins, a few days ago, and as good as a movie it is, it's got nothing on The Dark Knight.
 
Batman Begins was a great "origins" movie, but this one really caught the best of the Batman franchise.
 
If they are going to use Catwomen in the next film, or future films, will they use Halle Berry?

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Please no. I hope they use someone cool. And really really hot. But still a good actress.
 
Oh yea, I watched Tim Burton's Batman, too. I thought Micheal Keaton was awful as Bruce Wayne/Batman.
 
I love it!


SPOILEERRSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The writers have already stated they dont want to do catwoman, and especially dont want to do robin! seems fair to me, bale's batman is a young batman, so robin is a few movies away.

anyway i think the third installement of nolan/bale batman flicks will include harvey two face, he didnt die, thats to weak a story ending, he'll be back crayzier and hating batman with a passion! Just the way the character should be, ofcourse i think there will also be introduced another villain.

The writers say they would like to use a character that hasnt been used on the big screen yet, maybe the scarecrow will become a main villain? Harley Quinn, the villainess who falls in love with the joker? Bane?

Black spider is a good character, Eric Needham, his real name, was a small time crook who was addicted to heroin. Desperate for money to buy more drugs, he robbed a liquor store and killed the owner, who turned out to be his father. After being arrested, he kicked the habit out of remorse and began a war on the drug trade. Donning a costume, he became a self-styled vigilante and began killing those suspected of dealing drugs. This soon brought him into conflict with Batman. Needham believed that the two should be allies, as he saw common purpose in their war against criminals. His murderous methods however continually put him at odds with the Dark Knight. ??? could work...

Copperhead, the snake guy? ive got more, im a huge comic fan, mainly batman. Crazy-Quilt is so cool, look him up on wiki, he's like this painter, who leads a double life as a criminal, and leaves clues in his paintings for his henchmen, he can only see in blinding, dissorienting colours, which drives him insane.
Hugo Strange? he is an old, old, old-school villain.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ Jul 27 2008, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jul 27 2008, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ Jul 25 2008, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Its gotta be the best super hero movie I've ever seen though.</div>

I just saw Sin City again yesterday. It is interesting how much wittier and advanced the dialogue is in that movie, and the stories there seem more structured with a better flow. I enjoyed that movie more so I wouldn't say Batman is technically the best comic book movie ever. Although Sin City is a "graphic novel" (maybe a future genre too) too (like some Batman comics).
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I fuggin HATED that movie. I guess I just didn't get it or something but it was hyped up like crazy but all I ever saw in it was a big fat POS gift wrapped in this weird shaddowy looking art style that made everyone cream themselves. Sooooooooo fuggin boring. Literally turned it off, didn't even watch the whole movie because I was so damn bored with all the stories and the godamn movie wouldn't end.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>But I have a couple of questions

<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Is Fox, Morgan Freemon's character going to be back for the next movie? Also, did anyone find it odd how Bruce didn't really react that much to Rachel's death? I thought they were friends from birth. I personally expected a little more drama...

Also, another question, this is actually about the first movie. I saw it a while ago so I don't really remember, but what was Bruce doing in the beginning of Batman Begins? Was he in a prison or something, and why? Was it ever explained?</span></div>
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Dunno about the first question but yes, it was explained why Bruce was in a prison ins some under-developed asian village. Bruce went to kill the man who murdered his father because he was in court for something (maybe parole? or he was bieng released? I don't know why but he was out of prison and in court somewhere in Gotham). Bruce was waiting for the guy in the lobby of the court house but right as the guy left the court room someone else came in and assassinated him before Bruce could. Bruce was pissed because he was waiting so long to do that, so he told Rachel, who then dropped him off at Falcone's (the corrupt mayor) hangout, can't remember why exactly but she wanted him to go tell Falcone to his face or something. So Bruce does confront Falcone and Falcone basically tells him that hes just a rich bitch and he doesn't know anything about crime, the streets, poor people, etc. so Bruce leaves right there and lives as a "thief" for the next like 7 years IIRC. Eventually hes caught and arrested somewhere in asia, which is why hes in the prison at the beginning. From there hes approached by the guy from the league of shadows.

BTW just checked wiki and it says one of Falcone's henchmen killed the murderer of Bruce's father. Thats probably why Bruce confronted Falcone.</span>
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Oh really, you HATED, it? I thought it was hyped up as well, but the dialogue intrigued me.


Worse than "Step brothers" Run? Lol I don't think so man.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jul 28 2008, 02:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ Jul 27 2008, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jul 27 2008, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ Jul 25 2008, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Its gotta be the best super hero movie I've ever seen though.</div>

I just saw Sin City again yesterday. It is interesting how much wittier and advanced the dialogue is in that movie, and the stories there seem more structured with a better flow. I enjoyed that movie more so I wouldn't say Batman is technically the best comic book movie ever. Although Sin City is a "graphic novel" (maybe a future genre too) too (like some Batman comics).
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I fuggin HATED that movie. I guess I just didn't get it or something but it was hyped up like crazy but all I ever saw in it was a big fat POS gift wrapped in this weird shaddowy looking art style that made everyone cream themselves. Sooooooooo fuggin boring. Literally turned it off, didn't even watch the whole movie because I was so damn bored with all the stories and the godamn movie wouldn't end.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>But I have a couple of questions

<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Is Fox, Morgan Freemon's character going to be back for the next movie? Also, did anyone find it odd how Bruce didn't really react that much to Rachel's death? I thought they were friends from birth. I personally expected a little more drama...

Also, another question, this is actually about the first movie. I saw it a while ago so I don't really remember, but what was Bruce doing in the beginning of Batman Begins? Was he in a prison or something, and why? Was it ever explained?</span></div>
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Dunno about the first question but yes, it was explained why Bruce was in a prison ins some under-developed asian village. Bruce went to kill the man who murdered his father because he was in court for something (maybe parole? or he was bieng released? I don't know why but he was out of prison and in court somewhere in Gotham). Bruce was waiting for the guy in the lobby of the court house but right as the guy left the court room someone else came in and assassinated him before Bruce could. Bruce was pissed because he was waiting so long to do that, so he told Rachel, who then dropped him off at Falcone's (the corrupt mayor) hangout, can't remember why exactly but she wanted him to go tell Falcone to his face or something. So Bruce does confront Falcone and Falcone basically tells him that hes just a rich bitch and he doesn't know anything about crime, the streets, poor people, etc. so Bruce leaves right there and lives as a "thief" for the next like 7 years IIRC. Eventually hes caught and arrested somewhere in asia, which is why hes in the prison at the beginning. From there hes approached by the guy from the league of shadows.

BTW just checked wiki and it says one of Falcone's henchmen killed the murderer of Bruce's father. Thats probably why Bruce confronted Falcone.</span>
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Oh really, you HATED, it? I thought it was hyped up as well, but the dialogue intrigued me.


Worse than "Step brothers" Run? Lol I don't think so man.

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Lol, don't hate on Step Brothers until you see it.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ Jul 25 2008, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>I thought the same thing about the Two-Face/Batman fall, but then I realized Batman also survived a fall from his pent house while saving Rachel. I think the biggest clue to Two-Face possibly being alive was when he flipped the coin and got tackled, they showed the coin land on heads and then they showed Batman and the boy hanging, and Two-Face on the ground. Then, they never showed a coffin. I'm convinced Two-Face will be back.</span></div>

<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>I don't think that coin flip really works for telling wheter Two-Face is alive or not. Two-Face already flipped a coin for his own life, I think them showing the coin was to show that Gordon was going to live anyway when Batman decided to take Two-Face out. What I'm thinking about though is that if Two-Face is dead did Batman technically break his only rule to not kill anyone? Is killing Two-Face made worse from the fact that Gordon was going to live anyway from the way the coin turned out?</span>
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AKIRA @ Jul 27 2008, 11:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>anyway i think the third installement of nolan/bale batman flicks will include harvey two face, he didnt die, thats to weak a story ending, he'll be back crayzier and hating batman with a passion! Just the way the character should be, ofcourse i think there will also be introduced another villain.

The writers say they would like to use a character that hasnt been used on the big screen yet, maybe the scarecrow will become a main villain? Harley Quinn, the villainess who falls in love with the joker? Bane?</div>

Dent makes a lot of sense to me. So does Scarecrow, since they have already been willing to use him, and is still alive. If they don't bring Joker back, then Harley Quinn makes the least sense. Bane would be awesome, but I can't see them skipping ahead so much, if no Robin.
 
How about the return of Ra's al Ghul only this time with a League of Assassins consisting of Deadshot, Bane and Lady Shiva? They could cast Michelle Yeoh as Lady Shiva and Jason Statham as Deadshot. I realize that's taking a lot of liberties with the League of Assassins, but I'm not sure how recognizable the League from the comics would be.
 
Ra's al Ghul was immortal in the comics, right? Nolan wants to keep it realistic, so he isn't going to bring him back.
 
Yea, he didn't feel like the same character without the Lazarus pit. I can't see them bringing him back.
 
Excellent movie, but the trailer for the watchmen didn't really get me that excited. The Terminator one did though. Batman And Ironman were both excellent and Batman beats it but the thought of an Avengers movie makes me like Ironman just as much.
I want to see Hellboy as well, heard it's good.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale @ Jul 28 2008, 10:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How about the return of Ra's al Ghul only this time with a League of Assassins consisting of Deadshot, Bane and Lady Shiva? They could cast Michelle Yeoh as Lady Shiva and Jason Statham as Deadshot. I realize that's taking a lot of liberties with the League of Assassins, but I'm not sure how recognizable the League from the comics would be.</div>

Deadshot is a great villain. I like that idea. Who would they get to play Bane? Think of the largest football player you can think of. Jake Long?
 
If they keep giving Shawn Merriman steroids, he'd be a pretty good Bane.

I watched it again today and I'm absolutely convinced that if there's another movie Two Face will be the central villain.
 
What about Mr. Freeze? I always liked him. He was one of the major characters in the animated series as well, but I guess it would be kind of unrealistic...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 29 2008, 12:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What about Mr. Freeze? I always liked him. He was one of the major characters in the animated series as well, but I guess it would be kind of unrealistic...</div>

You would think that Freeze and Penguin would be friends or something.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 28 2008, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale @ Jul 28 2008, 10:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How about the return of Ra's al Ghul only this time with a League of Assassins consisting of Deadshot, Bane and Lady Shiva? They could cast Michelle Yeoh as Lady Shiva and Jason Statham as Deadshot. I realize that's taking a lot of liberties with the League of Assassins, but I'm not sure how recognizable the League from the comics would be.</div>

Deadshot is a great villain. I like that idea. Who would they get to play Bane? Think of the largest football player you can think of. Jake Long?

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I'm sure Parcells would love that idea. How about Bob "The Beast" Sapp? Bill Goldberg? Dave Batista? I'm sure Bill Romanowski has the closest body chemistry, but he doesn't really have the look.
 
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