Event The Democratic Debates

[VanillaGorilla]

Well, just got done watching both debates.

90% of you are extremely looney leftists if you think any of these people are “good” candidates.

So what do you think you are?

 

[GhostOfPGA]

So what do you think you are?

A radical righty of course, duh!

 

[barfo]

The only decent one was Tulsi, and she will get railroaded by the DNC and the liberal media.

I continue to be baffled as to why right wingers seem to love Tulsi. While her views are a bit outside the mainstream of the democratic party in certain ways, she isn't particularly conservative - I think there are at least a handful of candidates in the race that are more conservative. Yet she's the candidate that the right praises.

It's fine, of course - like who you want - but it doesn't seem to make any sense. I don't think you'd be happy with her as president.

barfo

 

[barfo]

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The cartoonist who made this got fired.

As he should be, it's completely unrealistic.

There's no way Trump would bother asking - or even speak to someone from a shithole country.

barfo

 

[GhostOfPGA]

I continue to be baffled as to why right wingers seem to love Tulsi. While her views are a bit outside the mainstream of the democratic party in certain ways, she isn't particularly conservative - I think there are at least a handful of candidates in the race that are more conservative. Yet she's the candidate that the right praises.

It's fine, of course - like who you want - but it doesn't seem to make any sense. I don't think you'd be happy with her as president.

barfo

It’s more of her coming across as an honest person. I don’t agree with much of anything any democrat says but she comes across as authentic at least. Someone who would reach across party lines to help the country. Still, Trump has my vote no matter who the dems run out of this clown car.

 

[barfo]

It’s more of her coming across as an honest person. I don’t agree with much of anything any democrat says but she comes across as authentic at least. Someone who would reach across party lines to help the country. Still, Trump has my vote no matter who the dems run out of this clown car.

I'm not sure about the authenticity bit, but I did enjoy her taking apart Tim Ryan in the debate.

barfo

 

[Lanny]

Well, just got done watching both debates.

90% of you are extremely looney leftists if you think any of these people are “good” candidates. The only decent one was Tulsi, and she will get railroaded by the DNC and the liberal media.

The most disingenuous candidate by far? Heels up Harris, a child of privilege if I’ve ever seen one... trying to play it off as some downtrodden minority who had to fight for everything in her life. Disgusting.

Harris could very well be our next Vice President.

 

[Lanny]

It’s more of her coming across as an honest person. I don’t agree with much of anything any democrat says but she comes across as authentic at least. Someone who would reach across party lines to help the country. Still, Trump has my vote no matter who the dems run out of this clown car.

She's going nowhere, not because I desire it but because the nation is not ready to elect a Hindu.

 

[Lanny]

I'm not sure about the authenticity bit, but I did enjoy her taking apart Tim Ryan in the debate.

barfo

Tim who?

 

[calvin natt]

Well, just got done watching both debates.

90% of you are extremely looney leftists if you think any of these people are “good” candidates. The only decent one was Tulsi, and she will get railroaded by the DNC and the liberal media.

The most disingenuous candidate by far? Heels up Harris, a child of privilege if I’ve ever seen one... trying to play it off as some downtrodden minority who had to fight for everything in her life. Disgusting.

Yet it’s totally normal to think Trump is a good candidate. Talk about looney.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Who cares.

Local government is the only place where anything of real importance ever gets done anyhow.

 

[Hoopguru]

I continue to be baffled as to why right wingers seem to love Tulsi. While her views are a bit outside the mainstream of the democratic party in certain ways, she isn't particularly conservative - I think there are at least a handful of candidates in the race that are more conservative. Yet she's the candidate that the right praises.

It's fine, of course - like who you want - but it doesn't seem to make any sense. I don't think you'd be happy with her as president.

barfo

imo, its probably she comes across as her own women and not just jump on any bandwagon , to get votes. Also, her military background and her views on the mideast involvement help.
And she's was raised in a conservative family so those that you speak of may think she still has some of the values and beliefs. Just a thought?
As a guy thats been both over my life time I go with whomever seems be reasonable in their politics and willing to give and take.

 

[SlyPokerCat]

imo, its probably she comes across as her own women and not just jump on any bandwagon , to get votes. Also, her military background and her views on the mideast involvement help.
And she's was raised in a conservative family so those that you speak of may think she still has some of the values and beliefs. Just a thought?
As a guy thats been both over my life time I go with whomever seems be reasonable in their politics and willing to give and take.

 

[Hoopguru]

Im glad to see someone with common since talking about "decriminalizing illegal border crossings".


An Obama-era Department of Homeland Security chief is warning Democratic presidential candidates to cool their push to decriminalize illegal border crossings, saying such a move would be tantamount to “open borders” policy and lead to hundreds of thousands more people flooding into the U.S. every month.

“That is tantamount to declaring publicly that we have open borders,” Jeh Johnson told The Washington Post.

“That is unworkable, unwise and does not have the support of a majority of American people or the Congress, and if we had such a policy, instead of 100,000 apprehensions a month, it will be multiples of that,” he said.

 

[SlyPokerCat]

Not that it matters, because Yang's mic being off is not mutually exclusive to anyone elses mic being turned off. Buttttt........

 

[barfo]

It would be very interesting if true, but I'm skeptical.
I think it is more likely that those two simply got drowned out when they tried to talk by other people shouting.

I'll bet there is tape showing the whole stage, it should be possible to actually determine the truth (or not) of this claim.

barfo

 

[Lanny]

Not that it matters, because Yang's mic being off is not mutually exclusive to anyone elses mic being turned off. Buttttt........

I've heard that his microphone was not turned off.

 

[SlyPokerCat]

I've heard that his microphone was not turned off.

Of course NBC would say it wasn't turned off.

I don't believe Yang is lying. But whatever.

 

[Lanny]

Of course NBC would say it wasn't turned off.

I don't believe Yang is lying. But whatever.

I'm going to accept the 'Whatever'. NBC would be taking an unacceptable risk by lying. They're one of the longest lasting companies in the U.S. providing a lot of return on investment and providing an awful lot of jobs. I can't see them blatantly lying. Too much at risk. The company would fall flat on their face.
I'm going to assume that Mr. Yang made an error.

 

[SlyPokerCat]

I'm going to accept the 'Whatever'. NBC would be taking an unacceptable risk by lying. They're one of the longest lasting companies in the U.S. providing a lot of return on investment and providing an awful lot of jobs. I can't see them blatantly lying. Too much at risk. The company would fall flat on their face.
I'm going to assume that Mr. Yang made an error.

So, you think NBC, or any big media outlet has never manipulated things the way they see fit?

There have been numerous accounts/rumors of candidates having been fed debate questions ahead of time by multiple networks.

 

[Lanny]

So, you think NBC, or any big media outlet has never manipulated things the way they see fit?

There have been numerous accounts/rumors of candidates having been fed debate questions ahead of time by multiple networks.

Did they lie about it?
At West Point lying is worse than thievery. I've known a couple people who have graduated from there.

 

[SlyPokerCat]

Did they lie about it?
At West Point lying is worse than thievery. I've known a couple people who have graduated from there.

 

[SlyPokerCat]

Did they lie about it?
At West Point lying is worse than thievery. I've known a couple people who have graduated from there.

Politifact believes their people constantly lie.
https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/tv/nbc/

 

[SlyPokerCat]

Did they lie about it?
At West Point lying is worse than thievery. I've known a couple people who have graduated from there.

Another situation nbc was accused of lying.

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertai...-how-nbc-handled-the-matt-lauer-scandal.html/

 

[Lanny]

Another situation nbc was accused of lying.

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertai...-how-nbc-handled-the-matt-lauer-scandal.html/

I don't even know that source. It could be part of the flood of fake news that we've been subjected to by the Russians and the Far right.

 

[Lanny]

Politifact believes their people constantly lie.
https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/tv/nbc/

1. I see nothing about the Yang claim.

Politifact believes their people constantly lie.
https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/tv/nbc/

No, they don't. They say that people interviewed have lied. The MSNBC people who lied told half truths or mostly true with the exception of Sharpton, a well meaning soul who is often not accurate. Also, Joe Scarborough has missed the mark a couple times. These are all either guests or commentators and not the company.

 

[SlyPokerCat]

1. I see nothing about the Yang claim.

No, they don't. They say that people interviewed have lied. The MSNBC people who lied told half truths or mostly true with the exception of Sharpton, a well meaning soul who is often not accurate. Also, Joe Scarborough has missed the mark a couple times. These are all either guests or commentators and not the company.

Ok Lanny. We will agree to disagree sir. You can continue thinking NBC is full of truths and would never tell a lie.

 

[Lanny]

Ok Lanny. We will agree to disagree sir. You can continue thinking NBC is full of truths and would never tell a lie.

You have shown me zero instances of the company lying.
Guests and even news commentators make errors or tell outright lies every day, especially Fox News.

 

[SlyPokerCat]

You have shown me zero instances of the company lying.
Guests and even news commentators make errors or tell outright lies every day, especially Fox News.

That youtube clip should show you he tried to talk.

If you want to find times NBC lied, use a thing called google. Plenty of instances for your reading leisure.

 

[barfo]

It's hard to say for sure, but I think I hear Yang when his mouth moves on that clip. I'm not sure this is inconsistent with him just getting shouted down. He's not very rude/forceful.

barfo