Event The Democratic Debates

[Lanny]

We were talking about trans Females. Meaning they transitioned from being a man.

They can't have babies

Incorrect.
Some people are born as both male and a female. Should they choose to give up their male parts and assume the identity of a female they are known as transgender and they are females who can get pregnant. Is this clear enough?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Incorrect.
Some people are born as both male and a female. Should they choose to give up their male parts and assume the identity of a female they are known as transgender and they are females who can get pregnant. Is this clear enough?

That's not a trans-female.

 

[Lanny]

That's not a trans-female.

It's not all transgender females but it is a transgender female.

 

[Road Ratt]

Stephen Colbert's take on the 2nd democratic debate.

 

[SlyPokerCat]

Everything costs a lot more now after the QE.

I'd like to see inflation numbers for Alaska with their much smaller scale permanent fund.

 

[Chris Craig]

Its enough.

Not nearly

 

[Chris Craig]

Yang said he tried to talk at various points throughout the night and his mic was turned off/malfunctioning.

I'd like to chalk it up as a mishap, but seems a little too convenient.

Williamson wasn't having the same problem

 

[Chris Craig]

FYI, this is Yang's response to the inflation idea.



https://www.yang2020.com/blog/ubi_faqs/wouldnt-cause-rampant-inflation/

Inflatiom is based on greed. Companies want to make more money. Landlirds want to make more money. The ciat if goods, housing, utilities, etc continue to rise. Tge only inveitable outcome is the complete collapse of the economy. You can only stretch a rubber band so much.

 

[Chris Craig]

Who was the worst the last two nights?

I want that person 10000x more than shitbox Trump

These candidates are better than Trump and the 2016 candidates in the republican primary.

 

[SlyPokerCat]

Williamson wasn't having the same problem

So? These aren't mutually exclusive things.

 

[MarAzul]

I'd love to see the dems run a ticket of Harris and Warren against Trump and Pence...I don't think Joe or Bernie can win shit...too many Hillary stories around them and Obama stories that will just rile up the deplorables to vote for the second time in their lives again..when are the green party and libertarian party debates airing?

So would I. Harris and Warren would be a bad ass ticket.

Sorry guys, but Harris lacks the wisdom to win.
She has declared she will take guns from people by executive order, in spite of the Constitution and the lack of support by their representatives, as if she is about to become Queen Harris. This is not a winning hand.

PS, this deplorable has voted in more elections than anyone else reading this thread.

 

[Hoopguru]

My take on night 2:

Good:

Harris, clearly the winner, wove her story and policies together. The pic of her as a young girl has gone viral. Knocked Biden off his pins. A lot of people left hoping to see her use her prosecutorial skills against Trump.
Swalwell, some good answers, especially on gun control, won't get nomination but possibly seek open Senate seat from California
Buttigieg, acknowledged without glossing over or excusing problems between police and Black community, willing to say he needs to work on a problem, refreshing after current occupant of White House who praises himself for everything and blames everyone else.

Bad:

Biden, started well, parried Swalwell's comment about passing the torch, but fell apart when Harris got going. Saying desegregation should be left to local authorities was exactly the segregationist position, no one from the government should tell us in Mississippi how to treat "our n-----s". If Harris got under his skin, what would Trump do?
Sanders, nothing wrong with showing passion but he is permanently stuck on 11. I don't like being constantly yelled at. When candidates were asked about one signature issue he went into a rant about political revolution no one understood.
Yang, chance to introduce himself, underwhelmed, others who proposed national income put an income limit on it but he did not. Should Bill Gates get $12,000 a year in taxpayer money?
Williamson, trying to sell books
Hickenlooper, a good governor but had to say "I am not a socialist" every sentence
Gillebrand, I agree on campaign finance reform but it is not the answer to every question
Bennet, did he say anything?

Hick, stating Im not a socialist will help him in the long haul. Guys like me (mod leans both L&Rdepending on the issues) that have been both dem & repub, over the last 50, want someone willing to put balance and rally people together to accomplish something.
Harris last night mentioned rather than constant food fight putting food on the table is what voters are interested in. All she ever does is food fight with mod's and republicans. Which candidate will reach across the isle effectively? I say EW, Buttigieg, Hickenlooper,Gabby,& Delaney..

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

 

[MarAzul]

Maybe you’re new to the Democratic Party

Ha!
No, I gave it up as ridiculous many years ago.

 

[MarAzul]

Gabby

I would shorten you're list to one.

 

[riverman]

I don't have a list...I'm voting for whoever leads Trump at crunch time period....I just think watching Harris and Warren counter Trump and Pence would be hilarious and more effective than the Trumpettes believe...I'm voting across the board against Trump...no more Gary Johnson vote this time around...I want the guy gone

 

[barfo]

Hick, stating Im not a socialist will help him in the long haul.

About as much as stating "I'm not a neo-Nazi" will help a republican candidate in the long-haul.
"I'm not what they say I am" is actually a fairly weak message. "I am a ...." is better. See, e.g. Warren: "I am a capitalist to my core"
Plus, there is no long haul for Hickenlooper - or at least it is very very unlikely.

Guys like me (mod leans both L&Rdepending on the issues) that have been both dem & repub, over the last 50, want someone willing to put balance and rally people together to accomplish something.
Harris last night mentioned rather than constant food fight putting food on the table is what voters are interested in. All she ever does is food fight with mod's and republicans. Which candidate will reach across the isle effectively? I say EW, Buttigieg, Hickenlooper,Gabby,& Delaney..

Hard to see how Biden isn't in that list. Indeed much of the rap on him is that he's too willing to reach across (and around).

barfo

 

[MarAzul]

About as much as stating "I'm not a neo-Nazi" will help a republican candidate in the long-haul.
"I'm not what they say I am" is actually a fairly weak message. "I am a ...." is better. See, e.g. Warren: "I am a capitalist to my core"
Plus, there is no long haul for Hickenlooper - or at least it is very very unlikely.



Hard to see how Biden isn't in that list. Indeed much of the rap on him is that he's too willing to reach across (and around).

barfo

Have you ever heard Joe mimic the full automatic Machine gun sound? He is very entertaining some times. He did this on Senate floor once, back when he was supporting an assault weapons ban.
He quit though when someone pointed out, they had already banned the full automatics that he was mimicking. Too bad, he is good at it.

 

[Hoopguru]

About as much as stating "I'm not a neo-Nazi" will help a republican candidate in the long-haul.
"I'm not what they say I am" is actually a fairly weak message. "I am a ...." is better. See, e.g. Warren: "I am a capitalist to my core"
Plus, there is no long haul for Hickenlooper - or at least it is very very unlikely.



Hard to see how Biden isn't in that list. Indeed much of the rap on him is that he's too willing to reach across (and around).

barfo

Don't you think with all the Bernie & Socialist movement its ok for a candidate that doesn't endorse that movement to convert that the is a not a proponent of the movement. Id rather he say that than have someone like and pro politician get up their and promise this and that just for votes. I'm not saying Hick will win, but I do think he turned some moderate/independents heads. Not every den is on the socialist bandwagon like 70% of the candidates.

 

[riverman]

PS, this deplorable has voted in more elections than anyone else reading this thread.

you're no deplorable Marz...you're just a victim of TDS...it'll pass my friend! Deplorables are folks that never voted or considered voting until they were called deplorables...came out of the woodwork last election...Hillary made martyrs of them all..dumbest thing she could have ever done in that race..

 

[Lanny]

I don't have a list...I'm voting for whoever leads Trump at crunch time period....I just think watching Harris and Warren counter Trump and Pence would be hilarious and more effective than the Trumpettes believe...I'm voting across the board against Trump...no more Gary Johnson vote this time around...I want the guy gone

I would love a Warren/Harris ticket but since a Biden/Harris ticket has a better shot at cleaning out the White House, I'm gonna pray for that.

 

[MarAzul]

dumbest thing she could have ever done in that race.

Oh! I knew damn well she meant me. It pleased the hell out of me to see her do it. It made my day!

 

[MarAzul]

I would love a Warren/Harris ticket but since a Biden/Harris ticket has a better shot at cleaning out the White House, I'm gonna pray for that.

I think I will back you in this wish. Having one back a tax on what you got, and the other promising to take your weapons by executive order should get them the lowest electoral vote in history. Well at least in the running.

 

[barfo]

Don't you think with all the Bernie & Socialist movement its ok for a candidate that doesn't endorse that movement to convert that the is a not a proponent of the movement.

Sure, it's fine to say you aren't Bernie but it's hardly a reason to vote for you - there are 22 other people in the race who also aren't Bernie.

Id rather he say that than have someone like and pro politician get up their and promise this and that just for votes. I'm not saying Hick will win, but I do think he turned some moderate/independents heads. Not every den is on the socialist bandwagon like 70% of the candidates.

Bernie is the only candidate on any sort of a socialist bandwagon. The rest are Democrats.

Medicare is not socialism - or if it is, then socialism is not a bad thing.

barfo

 

[barfo]

Oh! I knew damn well she meant me. It pleased the hell out of me to see her do it. It made my day!

You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”

So, are you admitting to being racist, sexist, homophobic, or? Which type of deplorable do you self-identify as?

barfo

 

[MarAzul]

Medicare is not socialism - or if it is, then socialism is not a bad thing.

Actually I don't think you know how piss poor Medicare is. That is very disappointing too.

 

[MarAzul]

So, are you admitting to being racist, sexist, homophobic, or? Which type of deplorable do you self-identify as?

barfo

The kind that voted against Hillary.

 

[Lanny]

John Lefevre? This name rings a bell. Isn't he the guy that lied to a book publisher about his work experience and was subsequently dropped by that publisher?

 

[Hoopguru]

Sure, it's fine to say you aren't Bernie but it's hardly a reason to vote for you - there are 22 other people in the race who also aren't Bernie.



Bernie is the only candidate on any sort of a socialist bandwagon. The rest are Democrats.

Medicare is not socialism - or if it is, then socialism is not a bad thing.

barfo

Not sure I agree with you saying Bernie is the only DS, but that's cool. Others are also promoting DS policies too, Free education, Free health care for anyone that comes to the country, abolishing private insurance for 100% government. I agree medicare is not socialism we pay for it, even we elect to purchase a medicare advantage plan, which I do.
You can have a capitalistic approach and still serve people in need or the handicapped.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

John Lefevre? This name rings a bell. Isn't he the guy that lied to a book publisher about his work experience and was subsequently dropped by that publisher?

Yes.