The Dumbocrat Debate Thread: Bernie the Cuckold vs. Hillary the Deleter

[Stevenson]

What did she do illegally Denny with regard to the server? Enquiring minds want to know.

 

[MarAzul]

Wow! That was exciting. Free health care, free college, paid maternity leave, more Social Security and best of all, more fucking tax on the despicable.
I can't wait to vote.

 

[MarAzul]

What did she do illegally

You are kidding of course.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Wow! That was exciting. Free health care, free college, paid maternity leave, more Social Security and best of all, more fucking tax on the despicable.
I can't wait to vote.

We need broternity leave. Time off for not having kids

sent from a phone you've probably never heard of

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Look at his wart for giving too many handjobs

sent from a phone you've probably never heard of

 

[Stevenson]

You are kidding of course.

So what's your answer?

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

Lol Donald trump retweeted my tweet!

Congrats, I know that means a lot to you.

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

Yeah, brake up big banks....but first QE.

God damn you are obsessed with QE.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

God damn you are obsessed with QE.

I ghost tweet for zerohedge on Thursdays

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Don't worry, Doomsday will come

 

[riverman]

We need broternity leave. Time off for not having kids

sent from a phone you've probably never heard of

I would agree with this but only your dominant hand has earned this vacation

 

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[Stevenson]

As I said, and especially as your lack of response proves, the emails are much ado about nothing.

 

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As I said, and especially as your lack of response proves, the emails are much ado about nothing.

 

[Denny Crane]

What did she do illegally Denny with regard to the server? Enquiring minds want to know.

It speaks to her judgment. She is scandal ridden for a reason (Obama isn't for a reason).

She's loose with the truth. How has her story about the server changed since it first came out? Drip, drip, drip, the truth comes out and is 180 degrees opposite of what she lied and told you.

As far as the server goes, she violated a state department rule or three. Yeah, her predecessors used private email sometimes, but that was before the rules were in effect. She took control of the email system away from the government agencies that are supposed to monitor the equipment and software, protect it from hackers (haha), and otherwise at least keep the appearance that the politically damaging emails aren't deleted on her whim.

When news of her private server came out, she tried to have the hard disks erased. If that's not criminal, it's certainly a serious ethical problem. Freedom of Information and all that be damned.

I find it hard to believe anyone excuses her.

 

[Denny Crane]

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...lary-clintons-email-did-she-follow-all-rules/''

"While Clinton may have technical arguments for why she complied with each of these and the other rules that have been discussed in the news, the argument that Clinton complied with the letter and spirit of the law is unsustainable," said Douglas Cox, a law professor at City University of New York who studies records preservation.

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There was not an explicit, categorical prohibition against federal employees using personal emails when Clinton was in office, said Daniel Metcalfe, former director of the Department of Justice’s Office of Information Policy, where he administered implementation of the Freedom of Information Act. High-level officials like Clinton need the flexibility to sometimes use a personal email, such as responding to a national security emergency in the middle of the night.

So it seems she didn’t break a rule simply by using a personal email to conduct business. Rather, by using personal emails exclusively, she skirted the rules governing federal records management, Cox said.

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It would have been a violation of the NARA's rules in the Code of Federal Regulations for Clinton to use personal email exclusively, Metcalfe said. The code requires federal agencies to make and preserve records that duly document agency activity, so that they are readily available when needed -- such as for FOIA requests or congressional inquiries. Using personal email exclusively is contrary to proper record preservation.

"Anyone at NARA would have said you can’t use a personal email account for all of your official business," said Metcalfe, who held his position in part during former President Bill Clinton’s administration.

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In 2013, Gawker filed a FOIA request to the State Department for emails between Clinton and long-time adviser Sid Blumenthal after a hacker had revealed emails that Blumenthal sent Clinton. Although the emails were already known to the public, the State Department told Gawker that no such correspondence existed. Gawker believes this shows that Clinton was able to use her personal email to thwart the FOIA process.

"Using a personal email account exclusively is a potent prescription for flouting the Federal Records Act and circumventing the Freedom of Information Act," Metcalfe said. "And there can be little doubt that Clinton knew this full well."

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Cox said the fact that Clinton’s staff -- rather than a State Department federal records officer -- chose which emails to destroy is "honestly breathtaking." Her private employees don’t have the authority to decide what does or doesn’t count as a federal record. Further, when she was making these choices, she was acting as a private citizen, not a government employee.

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In sum, Clinton’s exclusive use of private email makes it difficult to know with certainty whether she complied with rules governing transparency, recordkeeping and security. We may never know what emails she deleted. Additionally, we may never know the details of her conversations with the State Department officials who briefed her on records management and security, and why they agreed to let her use a private email exclusively.

Metcalfe pointed to Clinton’s use of the word "allowed" and "opted" throughout her press conference, when referring to her decision to use private email. He said both words give the false impression that the law and its proper implementation presented her with a choice. She might have been "allowed" to use only a private email account in that no one stopped her, Metcalfe said, but that’s not the same thing as lawfully complying with rules.

 

[Denny Crane]

LOL, Koreans eating dogs, dude is a crack-up.

Huckabee looks like he eats egg yellow omelettes for breakfast and should keep his head down when people make food jokes.

I heard about the brouhaha over Huckabee's tweet. Looking at it, I don't find it racist as people claim. He didn't suggest Koreans eat dog. His tweet specifically says "NORTH Korean" which suggests the North Koreans are starved by their socialist leader so much that they have to eat dog.

 

[blue32]

H

aha, see that wallmart commercial talking about cut benefits and hours. GEE I WONDER WHY THAT HAPPENED?

Yeah, My sister is a CS manager for them. They cut everyone's hours to part-time so that they wouldn't have to pay more money in benefits. Pretty shiesty...

It speaks to her judgment. She is scandal ridden for a reason (Obama isn't for a reason).

She's loose with the truth. How has her story about the server changed since it first came out? Drip, drip, drip, the truth comes out and is 180 degrees opposite of what she lied and told you.

As far as the server goes, she violated a state department rule or three. Yeah, her predecessors used private email sometimes, but that was before the rules were in effect. She took control of the email system away from the government agencies that are supposed to monitor the equipment and software, protect it from hackers (haha), and otherwise at least keep the appearance that the politically damaging emails aren't deleted on her whim.

When news of her private server came out, she tried to have the hard disks erased. If that's not criminal, it's certainly a serious ethical problem. Freedom of Information and all that be damned.

I find it hard to believe anyone excuses her.

^^ Truth. And I work for a certain Federal organization currently. I am surprised she isn't arrested or charged with a crime because the classes I take for information governance and protection, along with records management indicate this is a serious issue that they don't take lightly. Well, unless you're her.

 

[Denny Crane]

this is a serious issue that they don't take lightly. Well, unless you're her.

Unless you're @Stevenson too

 

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I heard about the brouhaha over Huckabee's tweet. Looking at it, I don't find it racist as people claim. He didn't suggest Koreans eat dog. His tweet specifically says "NORTH Korean" which suggests the North Koreans are starved by their socialist leader so much that they have to eat dog.

Koreans eat dogs though. Even South Koreans. They don't eat pets, but a specific type of dog they raise for food.

 

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[VanillaGorilla]

Bernie received something like 80% of the votes for CNN's "who won the debate?" question on facebook before they took it down because it didn't back up their narrative that Hillary was the winner.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Fun fact: CNN is owned by Time Warner, who are one of Hillary's biggest campaign contributors.

 

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Fun fact: CNN is owned by Time Warner, who are one of Hillary's biggest campaign contributors.

Wow, this is the first... So now Socialists are claiming a liberal media is behind the demise of Bernie Sanders?

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Wow, this is the first... So now Socialists are claiming a liberal media is behind the demise of Bernie Sanders?

Sure.

 

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