The Final Word On Obama's Birth Certificate

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Mocking, lying, and obfuscating. That seems to be the MO of Barry Defenders in this thread.

RELEASE IT.

And Paxil, you might want to read the entire thread before adding in your ignorant opinion.

LOL I read way too much of it already. =) Do you think I am ignorant because I don't agree with you? I have read information on boths sides, so I wouldn't be ignorant. I certainly I have a different opinion of you.


From
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/15/debunking-the-birther-claim/?hpt=Sbin

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Certificate of live birth

The Obama team and the state of Hawaii released a certification of live birth, which documents the president’s birth on August 4, 1961, in Honolulu. This is not the original birth certificate. In Hawaii and other states, original birth certificates are not released when requested later.

CNN has seen a copy of the document and verified that it is official.

The certificate, officials say, allows a person born in Hawaii to get a driver's license, purchase land and obtain a U.S. passport.

What about the signature?

The so-called “birthers” say there's no signature or raised seal on the live birth certificate. But the group FactCheck.org, which viewed the original document, took a picture of the back of it and found there is a stamped signature and a raised seal.

Where’s the original birth certificate?

Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the former director of Hawaii's Department of Health, says she has personally viewed the president's original vital records and verified that he was born in Hawaii.

Former Hawaii Gov. Linda Lingle, a Republican, has been quoted as saying, "I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records at the Department of Health. We issued a news release at the time saying the president was, in fact, born at Kapi'olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that is just a fact."

Newspaper birth announcement

The announcement of Obama's birth appeared in the Honolulu Advertiser on August 13, 1961, and a day later in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin: “Mr. And Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4.”

Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo told the Star-Advertiser in July 2009 that vital statistics such as birth announcements were sent to the newspapers by the Health Department, which received the information from the hospital. These announcements were not sent in by the general public, Okubu said.

Current governor weighs in

Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie, a Democrat, was a close friend of the Obamas and has repeatedly said he was around during the future president’s birth and childhood.

What about his grandma’s claims?

Trump makes the claim that Obama's stepgrandmother in Kenya, Sarah Obama, said in an interview that he was born in Kenya. But the interview was done by a man characterized as a “street preacher” through a translator and there appears to be confusion over her answer.

The translator then came back and said Sarah Obama was saying that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.
 
If it's there, he should have no problem releasing it. I'm surprised Gov. Abercrombie couldn't find it.
 
LOL I read way too much of it already. =) Do you think I am ignorant because I don't agree with you? I have read information on boths sides, so I wouldn't be ignorant. I certainly I have a different opinion of you.


From
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/15/debunking-the-birther-claim/?hpt=Sbin

---

Certificate of live birth

The Obama team and the state of Hawaii released a certification of live birth, which documents the president’s birth on August 4, 1961, in Honolulu. This is not the original birth certificate. In Hawaii and other states, original birth certificates are not released when requested later.

CNN has seen a copy of the document and verified that it is official.

The certificate, officials say, allows a person born in Hawaii to get a driver's license, purchase land and obtain a U.S. passport.

What about the signature?

The so-called “birthers” say there's no signature or raised seal on the live birth certificate. But the group FactCheck.org, which viewed the original document, took a picture of the back of it and found there is a stamped signature and a raised seal.

Where’s the original birth certificate?

Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the former director of Hawaii's Department of Health, says she has personally viewed the president's original vital records and verified that he was born in Hawaii.

Former Hawaii Gov. Linda Lingle, a Republican, has been quoted as saying, "I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records at the Department of Health. We issued a news release at the time saying the president was, in fact, born at Kapi'olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that is just a fact."

Newspaper birth announcement

The announcement of Obama's birth appeared in the Honolulu Advertiser on August 13, 1961, and a day later in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin: “Mr. And Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4.”

Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo told the Star-Advertiser in July 2009 that vital statistics such as birth announcements were sent to the newspapers by the Health Department, which received the information from the hospital. These announcements were not sent in by the general public, Okubu said.

Current governor weighs in

Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie, a Democrat, was a close friend of the Obamas and has repeatedly said he was around during the future president’s birth and childhood.

What about his grandma’s claims?

Trump makes the claim that Obama's stepgrandmother in Kenya, Sarah Obama, said in an interview that he was born in Kenya. But the interview was done by a man characterized as a “street preacher” through a translator and there appears to be confusion over her answer.

The translator then came back and said Sarah Obama was saying that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

Certification of Live Birth =/ Certificate of Live Birth

This is simple stuff.
 
Rachel Maddow made an interesting observation the other day. There are maybe a couple dozen states pushing for laws to require a birth certificate to be allowed on the ballot. Her observation is that it's a ploy to prevent Obama from getting on the ballot in those states.

But what does she know that we don't? All he has to do is produce his birth certificate to get on those ballots. She's implying he can't...
 
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I notice a lot of you went silent about this issue after you got what you wanted.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

So I suspect that you really didn't get what you wanted, which was to affirm your belief that Obama was not born in the United States.

BTW this was the Fox News headline "White House Releases What it Says Is President Obama's Long-Form Birth Certificate"

Wow.

It doesn't matter. The "Birther" movement is now an entrenched organization of racists that just can't believe that a black man with a muslim-sounding name could be THEIR President. I doubt this release will shut them up. In fact, it will just embolden them more to demand further documentation.
 
It makes one wonder why Obama allowed an active member of the military to spend 6 months in jail, when all the surgeon asked Obama to do was release this document. Also, this proves Barry isn't a "natural born citizen", since his father was not a US citizen.

Also, that's a decent fake, but document experts are already questioning the left border. :)
 
Note that on Nordyke’s COLB box 7c says “Honolulu, **Oahu**, but BHO’s box 7c says “Honolulu, **Hawaii** :sherlock:
 
Note that on Nordyke’s COLB box 7c says “Honolulu, **Oahu**, but BHO’s box 7c says “Honolulu, **Hawaii** :sherlock:

Typical liberal response. Since it's on "Faux News" it's not real news, right? Learn to think for yourself man
 
I notice a lot of you went silent about this issue after you got what you wanted.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

So I suspect that you really didn't get what you wanted, which was to affirm your belief that Obama was not born in the United States.

BTW this was the Fox News headline "White House Releases What it Says Is President Obama's Long-Form Birth Certificate"

Wow.

Why is the background the same on all of the background, cept where the fold is? Shouldn't the background not be consistent?
 
I notice a lot of you went silent about this issue after you got what you wanted.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

So I suspect that you really didn't get what you wanted, which was to affirm your belief that Obama was not born in the United States.

BTW this was the Fox News headline "White House Releases What it Says Is President Obama's Long-Form Birth Certificate"

Wow.

Not silent. Just now saw the news.

About fucking time.
 
Snopes had a different doctor (Dr. West) than the signature on the phony thing released today (Dr. Sinclair). :sherlock:
 
It doesn't matter. The "Birther" movement is now an entrenched organization of racists that just can't believe that a black man with a muslim-sounding name could be THEIR President. I doubt this release will shut them up. In fact, it will just embolden them more to demand further documentation.

I can't tell you how ignorant I think the "rascist" smear is in this entire topic. Thank you for repeating the tired left-wing talking point for ANY complaint about Obama. It moves the conversation along nicely.
 
I can't wait to see the ads of the military member who had his career destroyed by asking for this basic form to be released. A few shots of Obama golfing, a few of him dancing, Barry filling out his NCAA bracket, then cut to a shot of Terry Lakin sitting in a jail cell, asking, "what took you so long, Mr. President?".
 
It doesn't matter. The "Birther" movement is now an entrenched organization of racists that just can't believe that a black man with a muslim-sounding name could be THEIR President. I doubt this release will shut them up. In fact, it will just embolden them more to demand further documentation.

Didn't you have a complete meltdown when I posted a thread with a video of your fellow Portland libs mocking a black Tea Party member, and how I was smearing all liberals, according to you?

chris_in_pdx

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Yes, because this is indicative of all people on the left. I am so fucking tired of these kinds of posts on both sides. Yes when stupid asses on either side do dumb shit like this, they need to be called on it, but when it's framed like "ZOMG ALL YOU LIE-BRULS ARE LIKE THIS WTF NAZIS", what does that prove, other than you are a political-sports-fan douchebag who is all about your "team" looking good rather than the good of the country.

http://sportstwo.com/threads/184547-Portland-Liberals-Yell-at-Token-Tea-Party-Black-Guy

Hypocrite
 
Why does Obama's birth certificate have a higher File # if it was accepted by the registrar 3 days before Susan Nordyke's?

Weird...
 
Pat Bucanan was on MSNBC (not Fox News) suggesting that it's quite mysterious that Obama made the jump from Occidental to Harvard and the Harvard Law Review. He says that is what real journalists should be looking into.
 
Papag, you need to keep up with the movement. The new meme is that Hawaii was improperly admitted to the union, so it isn't legitimately a state and therefore Obama was not born in the US.

Reality can still be denied, you just have to keep the faith.

barfo
 
Pat Bucanan was on MSNBC (not Fox News) suggesting that it's quite mysterious that Obama made the jump from Occidental to Harvard and the Harvard Law Review. He says that is what real journalists should be looking into.

Uh, he went from Occidental to Columbia, then to Harvard.

barfo
 
Even Obama didn't think this thread was "The Final Word" on his birth certificate. :)
 
Now this is funny!

We do not have time for this kind of silliness. We’ve got better stuff to do. I’ve got better stuff to do. We’ve got big problems to solve,” the president said.

Minutes later, he boarded a helicopter, bound for Chicago where he will interview with Oprah, the queen of daytime TV talk shows who recently launched her own network.
 
Everyone knows Judge Judy is Queen of daytime TV.
 
I can't wait to see the ads of the military member who had his career destroyed by asking for this basic form to be released. A few shots of Obama golfing, a few of him dancing, Barry filling out his NCAA bracket, then cut to a shot of Terry Lakin sitting in a jail cell, asking, "what took you so long, Mr. President?".

He refused to deploy, which is the crime. He could have done his sworn duty while "asking." You've been "asking" and haven't been clapped into chains. Did the Obama Gestapo simply miss you? I've been reporting you!
 

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