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So, was that guy spreading the news part of the propaganda piece or did he just fall for it?

Again, what is more likely, Antifa for some reason hiding gas cans in bushes or someone with a gas can in the back of their truck deciding to take it out before driving near flames and falling embers?
 
Again, what is more likely, Antifa for some reason hiding gas cans in bushes or someone with a gas can in the back of their truck deciding to take it out before driving near flames and falling embers?

Clearly it's Antifa, who has shown a history of burning down forests all around Oregon.
 


I watched that and I kept thinking I must be missing some critical context that wasn't in the video.....?

but what I saw, was some spokesman for the sheriff's department in the first case saying things like "staging gas cans" and "looting" and "antifa starting fires" as something circumstantial but solid. But when he had to clarify any of those claims...they ended up as just rumors backed by little evidence

in other words, he was an alarmist using rumors to justify granting more power to the sheriff. But he had nothing solid to back up that request. Yet, one of the commissioners wanted to call out the national guard based on rumors?

as I said....there had to be more to it than that....right?
 
here are some of the nice vigilantes who are "patrolling" areas looking for antifa because of conspiracy theories on social media:

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(I will admit the t-shirt is funny)
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" A particularly popular set of posts, shared thousands of times on Facebook, originated from a hoax account called “Scarsdale NY Antifa,” and claimed to be helping set the fires: “We and other chapters of Antifa around Oregon have collaborated to ignite fires around the state to draw attention to #climateemergency,” one post read. Others from the same account made similar claims."
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" One comment widely shared on Facebook laid out a scenario straight from an action film:

"So my brother is a logger as you all know. One of the guys he works with owns about 50 acres between Welches and Sandy. Last night he saw somebody trying to start a fire on his property. He went down to the property and discovered a group of antifa throwing Molotov cocktails on his property. He had a fire truck on his property and immediately went down with his guys and tried to put out the fire. He also took his AR’s and they exchanged over 200 rounds of fire with the people. They called 911 and said that they were trying to light their property on fire and the police told them they were on their own
."

LOL
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and of course, there's the propaganda 101 tactic of just claiming to be 'asking a question:

Has anyone seen or heard of 3 guys with Hoodies throwing bottles of gasoline in the Boring golf course?” one person speculated in a private Facebook group for the town of Boring. “I don’t know if it’s true, so I’m asking here if anyone knows.”
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"Prominent among these was former San Francisco Giants outfielder Aubrey Huff, who repeated the hashtag frequently. A weekend tweet featured text from one of his fans. “These messages from people in The thick of the #wildfires are blowing up my DM’s,” Huff wrote. The media isn’t telling us the real story of the #AntifaFires.” The text read:

I live in the heart of the Willamette Valley in Albany, Oregon. With 3 fires all being 45 minutes away. Our skies have been nothing but red, orange or gray since Monday. Mornings are pitch black until about 9 am. And yes they are caused by Antifa. Trump supporters finally had enough of Antifa in Portland so hard working Oregonians went to them to protect the innocent. And since Antifa is a bunch of cowardly pussies, they had to try to set the state on fire and burn up the farmers, mill workers and all around hard working people of Oregon. They’ve destroyed small towns that can’t even be traveled to yet to even see who made it out alive. This is local terrorism at it’s worst and our piece of shit Governor Brown won’t even acknowledge it
."
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"Several large alt-right accounts on Twitter, such as Paul Ramsey (aka Ramzpaul) amplified the rumors as well: “Antifa has been setting fires nightly in Oregon and Washington for the past 100 days. Time to implement the death penalty for arson,” Ramsey wrote.

Those tweeting out claims of “antifa arson” included QAnon cultist DeAnna Lorraine Tesoriero, with some 389,000 followers, who claimed (while retweeting a blog piece about how antifa was starting the fires): “It’s not climate change. It’s arson.” A former Republican candidate for Congress named Joey Nations tweeted out multiple posts making similar claims
."
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"The New York Times’ Mike Baker describes the kind of nightmare officials in charge of evacuating homes in the fires’ path now face—namely, recalcitrant homeowners refusing to leave for fear of “antifa looters.”

“There’s already reports that antifa’s in town, going down the streets looting,” one Oregon man who refused to leave told him. “I’m getting texts.”

Another man—described as stockpiling water, listening to his police scanner, and wetting down his neighbors’ homes “as a last line of defense”—told the Times that he and a number of his neighbors were staying put to protect their homes from “crowds of looters out of Portland.”

“We’re staying put and watching for people who aren’t supposed to be here,” he said.

A third man described how he had been digesting Facebook reports featuring black-masked thugs in hoodies, and now feared putting his home at risk if he left—vowing only to leave if the town of Molalla caught fire.

“You see what they’re doing downtown,” he said, referring to Portland. “It’s going to be a free-for-all. If I’m here and my buddies are here, that’s going to get stopped. This is what we’ve worked for our whole life. We’re not going to let anyone take it.”

Crude homemade signs have begun appearing in rural Oregon along county roads vowing: “Looters will be shot!” Another one read: “We won’t call your family. Your body will never be found. Bang bang!” A third: “Home and Armed: U Loot We Shoot
!”
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a lot more in the 'article'....

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...on-as-antifa-fires-hoax-inflames-social-media

this is kind of a perfect storm of idiots-with-guns + prepper-jerkoff-fantasies
 
Sorta like 68. MLK, Robert Kennedy, Vietnam, etc...

Same people doing the same shit. Military (and now technological) Industrial Complex. Big Tech, Big Pharma, Big Education, Big Unions, Big Globalists...
#WALKAWAY2020
 
Yes, things are fine here in Beautiful Central Oregon. I will be heading to Boring in the morning for a 5 day camping, wedding, grandkids visit, unless they close Hwy 26 and the gorge.

Our campground and the wedding venue were evacuated. Got a last minute reservation at Lake Billy Chinook and had a peaceful but smoky 5 days. My sister was evacuated and has a fire 1/2 mile from her house near Mulino.
 
There has been no response or even an indication of awareness at the federal level.

LOL.

POTUS TRUMP offered almost daily for the last several months to send in the National Guard but Kate Brown refused.
 
Apparently, the Governor's office kind of messed up the estimate of people forced to evacuate from their homes. The estimate released to the press of 500K, or more than 10% of the state's population seemed off to the Oregonian staff. They notified the state and eventually they released a new estimate of 40K. Still a lot, but you'd think someone would have thought, gee, 500K seems kind of high. Turns out, that's actually the number of people living in a Level 1, 2, or 3 evacuation area.

#WALKAWAY2020
 
LOL.

POTUS TRUMP offered almost daily for the last several months to send in the National Guard but Kate Brown refused.
LOL
Maybe you better figure out what thread this is?
This is about the Fires bro.
Several Months ago the president was NOT offering to send the national guard in for the fires.....

Your hate of Kate Brown has clouded your ability to read.
 
This is just so tragically hilarious after 100+ days of Democratic Party's refusal to arrest leftist anarchists for the exact same"crimes".
The Democratic party doesn't have the power to arrest.
 
Clearly it's Antifa, who has shown a history of burning down forests all around Oregon.

It could just as easily be the Prayer Boys. But this whole thread wants to talk Antifa, not them.
 
here are some of the nice vigilantes who are "patrolling" areas looking for antifa because of conspiracy theories on social media:

IMG_0616.jpg


(I will admit the t-shirt is funny)
*****************************************************

" A particularly popular set of posts, shared thousands of times on Facebook, originated from a hoax account called “Scarsdale NY Antifa,” and claimed to be helping set the fires: “We and other chapters of Antifa around Oregon have collaborated to ignite fires around the state to draw attention to #climateemergency,” one post read. Others from the same account made similar claims."
********************************************************

" One comment widely shared on Facebook laid out a scenario straight from an action film:

"So my brother is a logger as you all know. One of the guys he works with owns about 50 acres between Welches and Sandy. Last night he saw somebody trying to start a fire on his property. He went down to the property and discovered a group of antifa throwing Molotov cocktails on his property. He had a fire truck on his property and immediately went down with his guys and tried to put out the fire. He also took his AR’s and they exchanged over 200 rounds of fire with the people. They called 911 and said that they were trying to light their property on fire and the police told them they were on their own
."

LOL
**********************************************************

and of course, there's the propaganda 101 tactic of just claiming to be 'asking a question:

Has anyone seen or heard of 3 guys with Hoodies throwing bottles of gasoline in the Boring golf course?” one person speculated in a private Facebook group for the town of Boring. “I don’t know if it’s true, so I’m asking here if anyone knows.”
***********************************************************

"Prominent among these was former San Francisco Giants outfielder Aubrey Huff, who repeated the hashtag frequently. A weekend tweet featured text from one of his fans. “These messages from people in The thick of the #wildfires are blowing up my DM’s,” Huff wrote. The media isn’t telling us the real story of the #AntifaFires.” The text read:

I live in the heart of the Willamette Valley in Albany, Oregon. With 3 fires all being 45 minutes away. Our skies have been nothing but red, orange or gray since Monday. Mornings are pitch black until about 9 am. And yes they are caused by Antifa. Trump supporters finally had enough of Antifa in Portland so hard working Oregonians went to them to protect the innocent. And since Antifa is a bunch of cowardly pussies, they had to try to set the state on fire and burn up the farmers, mill workers and all around hard working people of Oregon. They’ve destroyed small towns that can’t even be traveled to yet to even see who made it out alive. This is local terrorism at it’s worst and our piece of shit Governor Brown won’t even acknowledge it
."
***************************************************************

"Several large alt-right accounts on Twitter, such as Paul Ramsey (aka Ramzpaul) amplified the rumors as well: “Antifa has been setting fires nightly in Oregon and Washington for the past 100 days. Time to implement the death penalty for arson,” Ramsey wrote.

Those tweeting out claims of “antifa arson” included QAnon cultist DeAnna Lorraine Tesoriero, with some 389,000 followers, who claimed (while retweeting a blog piece about how antifa was starting the fires): “It’s not climate change. It’s arson.” A former Republican candidate for Congress named Joey Nations tweeted out multiple posts making similar claims
."
*****************************************************************

"The New York Times’ Mike Baker describes the kind of nightmare officials in charge of evacuating homes in the fires’ path now face—namely, recalcitrant homeowners refusing to leave for fear of “antifa looters.”

“There’s already reports that antifa’s in town, going down the streets looting,” one Oregon man who refused to leave told him. “I’m getting texts.”

Another man—described as stockpiling water, listening to his police scanner, and wetting down his neighbors’ homes “as a last line of defense”—told the Times that he and a number of his neighbors were staying put to protect their homes from “crowds of looters out of Portland.”

“We’re staying put and watching for people who aren’t supposed to be here,” he said.

A third man described how he had been digesting Facebook reports featuring black-masked thugs in hoodies, and now feared putting his home at risk if he left—vowing only to leave if the town of Molalla caught fire.

“You see what they’re doing downtown,” he said, referring to Portland. “It’s going to be a free-for-all. If I’m here and my buddies are here, that’s going to get stopped. This is what we’ve worked for our whole life. We’re not going to let anyone take it.”

Crude homemade signs have begun appearing in rural Oregon along county roads vowing: “Looters will be shot!” Another one read: “We won’t call your family. Your body will never be found. Bang bang!” A third: “Home and Armed: U Loot We Shoot
!”
***********************************************************************

a lot more in the 'article'....

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...on-as-antifa-fires-hoax-inflames-social-media

this is kind of a perfect storm of idiots-with-guns + prepper-jerkoff-fantasies

...this is the same tragic game plan thats been happening for the past 4+ years now and its doing nothing more than tearing this country apart. The online bots, fake accounts, international interference, and spin masters take every event and instantly manipulate and manufacture the "facts" to fit their devisive narratives. It's fucking sad -- so many people are brainwashed with these false realities and it feels like there is no hope for them to ever see clearly again. I know so many people from around these fire disasters that believe most of the quotes above despite all the evidence pointing to the contrary. It feels like the goal is to create the most civil unrest as possible. Not good :sigh:
 
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One group blows up abortion clinics and the other military recruiting centers.
Both wackier than hell. No prisoners
 
Oregon fires surround NSW couple who lived through three Australian blazes in past year

When Cobargo couple Connie and Mark Woodberry arrived in Oregon in mid-March, as the global COVID-19 pandemic was taking hold, they had endured close encounters with three separate bushfires in Australia.

Their horror run started in September last year, when a bushfire broke out south of their home on the NSW far south coast.

By early November, smoke from bushfires further north was beginning to choke many towns along the far south coast, prompting the couple to visit family in the Adelaide Hills — a critical decision.

"The Lobethal fires in Adelaide Hills hit just before Christmas and we had to evacuate my husband's parents overnight," Ms Woodberry said.

They returned home shortly before a firestorm devastated Cobargo on News Year's Eve.

"By the time we packed the car the heat from the fires was almost unbearable," Ms Woodberry said.

Job prospects led the couple to the US in March, where they faced accommodation shortages and city lockdowns from the COVID-19 pandemic, before being thrown into another bushfire emergency.

Their home in Australia on News Years Eve:
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Their home in Oregon now:
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