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You guys are like preppers without all the stuff.
 
Did you guys watch the dark gothic maga video I posted above? Secession plays right into these tech billionaires hands.
Just did. Chilling.

Frankly, I find it hard to believe that such a far reaching plan went mistakenly unprepared for by Democrats.

They knew this was coming and they didn't do anything about it. They didn't prepare for this eventuality.

Hopefully they did prepare and are just giving Trump and MAGA more rope to hang themselves. But I don't think that os very likely.
 
There’s just something sort of anti-climactic in screaming about how the end times are upon us for the 3,614th time in 8 years.
The left’s currency of fear mongering has lost its value. You guys just appear insane.
No, this is exactly what I was saying I was worried about. I think that's what pretty much everyone who was opposed to Trump was saying.

It was never the end times until he started doing exactly what we said the end times could look like.
 
It was never the end times until he started doing exactly what we said the end times could look like.
Problem is, you were saying it 8 years ago and it didn’t pan out then either. It’s just tired. There’s no market for this chicken little shit anymore. The left just recycles it and sells it back to each other. They can’t change any minds outside their bubble because they are too deranged to make a coherent pitch.
 
Problem is, you were saying it 8 years ago and it didn’t pan out then either. It’s just tired. There’s no market for this chicken little shit anymore. The left just recycles it and sells it back to each other. They can’t change any minds outside their bubble because they are too deranged to make a coherent pitch.
No, I started saying it about 5 or 6 years ago and stopped once he lost the election (aside from his attempted insurrection). I didn't start again until it looked like he may have a chance to win a 2nd term.

I was always most concerned about a Trump 2nd term.

Thanks for your revisionist history though. What is happening is exactly what I was concerned about, exactly when I was concerned about it happening.
 
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As Oregonians, what can we do? We already elected Democrats to the house and senate.

Refuse to pay taxes?

Put a measure on the ballot to secede?

Protesting in Oregon is worthless. Nobody in Washington cares if Oregonians protest. You can start putting together a well regulated militia.

I don't know the answer, but I think we the people, collectively, have some power still.

Mass protests have some effect. Not if they only happen in Portland Oregon, but if they happen all over, then yes.

I don't mean effect on Trump and his cronies, but on other elected officials.

If people put *a lot* of pressure on their elected representatives, rather than sitting back and waiting for them to act first, that will have some effect.

Failing that, I'd suggest a general strike. But maybe there's a better suggestion.

barfo
 
I don't know the answer, but I think we the people, collectively, have some power still.

Mass protests have some effect. Not if they only happen in Portland Oregon, but if they happen all over, then yes.

I don't mean effect on Trump and his cronies, but on other elected officials.

If people put *a lot* of pressure on their elected representatives, rather than sitting back and waiting for them to act first, that will have some effect.

Failing that, I'd suggest a general strike. But maybe there's a better suggestion.

barfo
The only protests that matter are in states with Red senators and congress members.
 
Exactly. You don’t even know what you are saying.

I know what I'm saying. Either you are totally ignorant or a piece of work.
 
We need public protest, legal challenges, strong candidates, support for civil rights. We need to get quality information. Things can start small. It could be just a school board refusing to censor books. And be kind to cats.
 
Remember, logic doesn’t work with these types of people. They consider it to be leftist propaganda perpetuated by the universities.


That's the long way of saying "common sense"
 
The only protests that matter are in states with Red senators and congress members.

Disagree entirely. Red state people aren't going to lead the way, but they might begin to follow if we show them how.

barfo
 
Disagree entirely. Red state people aren't going to lead the way, but they might begin to follow if we show them how.

barfo
People in red states won't even know blue states are protesting.

It'll just be ANTIFA getting rowdy and burning libral cities to the ground again.

*Edit* Then they flip the channel to watch Republicans literally robbing Fort Knox pushing wheel barrows full of gold while blaming "the deep state" for having counted it wrong or something...
 
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Fucking idiots, cheering this clown.
 

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People in red states won't even know blue states are protesting.

It'll just be ANTIFA getting rowdy and burning libral cities to the ground again

We don't want that. Not at all.
 
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Disagree entirely. Red state people aren't going to lead the way, but they might begin to follow if we show them how.

barfo

We need to flip red states to blue. Having protests in blue states is not going to get it done. He needs to be impeached by the house and senate. That will only happen if the Dems take both. But.... if he's impeached we just get JD Vance.
 
It would need to be a joint effort by California, Washington, and Oregon with assurances from European allies that they would support us. But there's really nothing else we can do.

One thing I have been thinking about though - are any of you worried that things you have said online will get you on a list? People are imprisoned in places like Russia, Iran, and Turkey if they speak out about their tyrannical governments online.

Also, I don't think any of us are important enough to be on their radar. Our platform doesn't reach a whole lot of people. There are a whole what 20-30 people who post in OT?
 
Democrats can end this by launching Obama 2028.
I was just thinking today about how hard it must be for a lot of people to cope with losing 8 years of their prime life to this crap. Obama was president during my college years so I’m grateful for that at least.

Also, would the 2028 election be considered the first overtime election? We could create seasons of presidential competition where they go head to head through obstacle courses and there’d be even a league!! Yeah! And whoever wins gets to be president for a year.
 

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