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Minstrel said:
And yet, France (and nearly every other country) has vastly less mass murder. The idea that "mass murder will always happen at exactly the same rate, they'll just use trucks instead of guns" seems pretty off-base. Just because you found one example of a non-gun-based mass murder doesn't really make your point that guns are irrelevant to mass murder. Sure, once in a while, someone will find a way to kill a bunch of people without the help of a gun--just far less often. The reasons why are obvious: guns are easier to get and cheaper than a truck. Guns are also a lot more convenient and portable. You can't drive a truck through one classroom after another, running over each student in each room. You can walk down a hallway and spray each classroom with bullets.

Murderous people will always exist. Guns simply act as a force multiplier for those people, especially when you open it up to assault rifles. If you made rocket launchers and nuclear weapons accessible to anyone, you'd see even more people die, obviously.
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Been saying for years...we don't have a gun problem as much as we have a culture problem.
 
yankeesince59 said:
Been saying for years...we don't have a gun problem as much as we have a culture problem.
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That's an academic way of looking at it. A more practical way is to say that without the gun no one could shoot someone. Now, even that is incorrect when you look at it. Pick the low hanging fruit first. Go after the guns that do the most damage such as assault rifles, weapons with large clips/magazines, automatics, hidden guns.
 
Lanny said:
That's an academic way of looking at it. A more practical way is to say that without the gun no one could shoot someone. Now, even that is incorrect when you look at it. Pick the low hanging fruit first. Go after the guns that do the most damage such as assault rifles, weapons with large clips/magazines, automatics, hidden guns.
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I agree that banning certain weapons would help, but again, no amount of legislation will make a larger impact until we change as a society.
 
yankeesince59 said:
I agree that banning certain weapons would help, but again, no amount of legislation will make a larger impact until we change as a society.
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Why not save as many lives as possible?
Just save my wife's life and I am eternally grateful.
 
Lanny said:
Why not save as many lives as possible?
Just save my wife's life and I am eternally grateful.
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If you can figure out a way to keep guns/weapons out of criminals' hands, I'm all for it.
 
I believe that list has to do with economics......we should NOT be on any list with those developing countries.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
WHERE AT?
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Oh sure, beat it out of me. It must have been about 50 years ago and it was my wedding rehearsal dinner. Can't remember the place. Next time don't use that damn waterboard.
 
Lanny said:
Oh sure, beat it out of me. It must have been about 50 years ago and it was my wedding rehearsal dinner. Can't remember the place. Next time don't use that damn waterboard.
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WAIT, THIS WAS FOR MORE THAN ONE PERSON?
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
WAIT, THIS WAS FOR MORE THAN ONE PERSON?
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Probably 20 people. But I never limited the bill to just $600. I think it was closer to $1,000 and 50 years ago. My family was well off and my fiancee's family was even more well off.
 
Lanny said:
Probably 20 people. But I never limited the bill to just $600. I think it was closer to $1,000 and 50 years ago. My family was well off and my fiancee's family was even more well off.
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GREY POUPON HAVIN RICH MAN
 
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