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I’m talking guys we had in camp that we let go of that turned into a player.

Luguentz ‘isn’t that a fruit?’ Dort and Elliott Perry come to mind for me. Who else has slipped through the cracks?
 
Moses Brown has been a monster in the G League.

Great move, Neil! :craphead:
 
Seth Curry, Will Barton, Pat Connaughton
The bigger list would be players we brought in who fizzled out elsewhere
Alan Crabbe, Mo Williams, Louis Montero, Nolan Smith, Caleb Swanigan, Mario, Ed Davis, Meyers, Chief, Mo Harkless, Tolliver, TRob
 
riverman said:
Seth Curry, Will Barton, Pat Connaughton
The bigger list would be players we brought in who fizzled out elsewhere
Alan Crabbe, Mo Williams, Louis Montero, Nolan Smith, Caleb Swanigan, Mario, Ed Davis, Meyers, Chief, Mo Harkless, Tolliver, TRob
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Tolliver sucked.

I had high hopes for T-Rob. When he was in college I thought his man among boys mentality would translate to the league. He literally was awful in the NBA though.
 
riverman said:
The bigger list would be players we brought in who fizzled out elsewhere
Alan Crabbe, Mo Williams, Louis Montero, Nolan Smith, Caleb Swanigan, Mario, Ed Davis, Meyers, Chief, Mo Harkless, Tolliver, TRob
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Bad list. Almost all those guys either fizzled out here before they fizzled out there, or were acquired here because their fizzled careers were near an end. A third category is Davis and Aminu, who have been injured and are not fizzled.
 
Dort is the second coming of Ron Artest.

All-defense potential for the next decade.
 
When did we have them in camp?
 
jlprk said:
Bad list. Almost all those guys either fizzled out here before they fizzled out there, or were acquired here because their fizzled careers were near an end. A third category is Davis and Aminu, who have been injured and are not fizzled.
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Big Ed has toured the league since leaving and rarely played...first stop was the Jazz...he' worn a lot of uniforms....Mo Harkless had been towel waiving for the Clippers, Knicks and Heat....is Tim Frazier in the league? Shabazz Napier? I'd personally love to have Big Ed back on our bench...he's bored
 
riverman said:
Big Ed has toured the league since leaving and rarely played...first stop was the Jazz...he' worn a lot of uniforms....Mo Harkless had been towel waiving for the Clippers, Knicks and Heat....is Tim Frazier in the league? Shabazz Napier? I'd personally love to have Big Ed back on our bench...he's bored
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Mr. Ed was a workhorse for us.
 


There was no reason not to bring him back.
 
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BLAZINGGIANTS said:
it should piss you off....

but wizenheimer is incorrect.

gobert was picked in the first round, #27....
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* Gobert was picked in the 1st round....by Denver, not by Utah. It was widely reported Denver was shopping that pick

* Utah traded cash and a 2nd round pick, Erick Green, for Gobert

* Erick Green was the 46th pick in the 2nd round

* Portland had the 39th pick, selecting Jeff Withey...which they used as part of the trade for Robin Lopez
* Portland had the 4oth pick, selecting Grant Jerret....which they sold to OKC for cash
* Portland had the 45th pick, selecting Marko Todorovic....which became 1 of the four 2nds they used on Thomas Robinson

so yes, I was accurate when I said the Blazers didn't think Gobert was worth a 2nd round pick. They had three 2nds, all higher than the 2nd used to land Gobert.

illmatic99 said:
making stuff up now?
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nope...read above. Batum was lobbying hard for Portland to make the inexpensive move and draft Gobert. But Olshey has never had a good eye for big men
 
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wizenheimer said:
* Gobert was picked in the 1st round....by Denver, not by Utah. It was widely reported Denver was shopping that pick

* Utah traded cash and a 2nd round pick, Erick Green, for Gobert

* Erick Green was the 46th pick in the 2nd round

* Portland had the 39th pick, selecting Jeff Withey...which they used as part of the trade for Robin Lopez
* Portland had the 4oth pick, selecting Grant Jerret....which they sold to OKC for cash
* Portland had the 45th pick, selecting Marko Todorovic....which became 1 of the four 2nds they used on Thomas Robinson

so yes, I was accurate when I said the Blazers didn't think Gobert was worth a 2nd round pick. They had three 2nds, all higher than the 2nd used to land Gobert.



nope...read above. Batum was lobbying hard for Portland to make the inexpensive move and draft Gobert. But Olshey has never had a good eye for big men
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About Olshey not having good eye for big men is very true. All of his starting center in Portland he had to trade for them.
 
Dort was probably too aggressive on the court. Would not fit to our happy friends culture.
 
riverman said:
Seth Curry, Will Barton, Pat Connaughton
The bigger list would be players we brought in who fizzled out elsewhere
Alan Crabbe, Mo Williams, Louis Montero, Nolan Smith, Caleb Swanigan, Mario, Ed Davis, Meyers, Chief, Mo Harkless, Tolliver, TRob
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Smith sucked here.

Swanigan sucked here.

Mario sucked everywhere

Tolliver was already horrible everywhere

Mo won rings....

Crabbe wasn't great.

Meyers may be the worst player we had here since ha.

Trob was never good here.

What exactly was your point here? None of the players you mentioned were good here.

Unless I'm tired af and missed the point, which is entirely possible.
 
Strenuus said:
Smith sucked here.

Swanigan sucked here.

Mario sucked everywhere

Tolliver was already horrible everywhere

Mo won rings....

Crabbe wasn't great.

Meyers may be the worst player we had here since ha.

Trob was never good here.

What exactly was your point here? None of the players you mentioned were good here.

Unless I'm tired af and missed the point, which is entirely possible.
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I think he was kind of making the same point you did but he just went from a different angle?
 
wizenheimer said:
* Gobert was picked in the 1st round....by Denver, not by Utah. It was widely reported Denver was shopping that pick

* Utah traded cash and a 2nd round pick, Erick Green, for Gobert

* Erick Green was the 46th pick in the 2nd round

* Portland had the 39th pick, selecting Jeff Withey...which they used as part of the trade for Robin Lopez
* Portland had the 4oth pick, selecting Grant Jerret....which they sold to OKC for cash
* Portland had the 45th pick, selecting Marko Todorovic....which became 1 of the four 2nds they used on Thomas Robinson

so yes, I was accurate when I said the Blazers didn't think Gobert was worth a 2nd round pick. They had three 2nds, all higher than the 2nd used to land Gobert.



nope...read above. Batum was lobbying hard for Portland to make the inexpensive move and draft Gobert. But Olshey has never had a good eye for big men
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that does not mean that. it takes at least two parties to make a deal. you’re making the assumption that the opportunity was available to us. i’m not going to pretend that we had the opportunity. we don’t know.
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
that does not mean that. it takes at least two parties to make a deal. you’re making the assumption that the opportunity was available to us. i’m not going to pretend that we had the opportunity. we don’t know.
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LOL...it was available to Utah at a lower price...why wouldn't it be available to Portland?

as I said. it was widely known that Denver was shopping that pick. IIRC, they didn't want the financial obligation of a 1st round pick and preferred the less expensive 2nd round pick, with shorter guarantees

they even traded within the division, so there would have been nothing excluding Portland from the auction. Portland had higher 2nds than the 46th pick. They simply sold the 40th pick for cash, and that would have been a better trade chip than the 46th pick which was all it took Utah to land Gobert

clearly, Olshey didn't value Gobert as worth a 2nd round pick. Now, he had Meyers already and was obviously still overrating Meyers significantly at the time ("he could be an all-star"). And it's possible that he knew he was going to cut a deal for Robin Lopez. Still, he let an opportunity to draft a two-time DPOY pass in favor of below average C's.

I'm noticing your tune is a little different now. Instead of you and illimatic saying I was "making things up" (lying) or posting "fake news" (kind of the same as lying), you've retreated to the old "we can't know for sure" position. If that was the standard for discussion, about 95% of the posts in this forum would be deleted.
 
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