THe harsher penalty

[The`Dream]

Not that much? Doubt it!Average person costs like 10,000$ to be in jail for ONE YEAR. Most people who get put in jail are in the 20-30 age range. Since the average death age of a person dying in the United States in around 75, thats generously 450,000$ per person from age 30 to age 75. Pretty sure that killing someone by lethal injection doesn't cost almost 1/2 a million dollars. Taxpayer Cost: $450,000Cost to Prisoner: 0$<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The cost difference in keeping a person in prison for life versus a death penalty case is not that much</div>Usually, when a person is up for the death penalty, their case has already been decided. Especially with the death penalty, you know there have been some pretty terrible things done and the judge is positive that he's the killer.

 

[LiveAtTheHardwood]

Wait, you say that it costs less to feed and clothe a prisoner for 50+ years than it is to kill them? Besides that being completely incorrect, that's not even the point of this discussion. Life in prison is far worse for the prisoner. You're confined to one building for the rest of your life. Could you live like that? That would just suck. Every day, same routine. Worse than school, because it's on the weekends, too. You don't have the liberty to go on a walk when you want, play basketball in your backyard, call your friends, play your frickin' PS2 (okay, so maybe that's a positive thing considering the addictions these days), or even watch the news! Imagine it. Take the extremely boring and set routine of school, double that, extend it for the rest of your life, take away the part where you go home every day, and the part where you learn something other than "Why the %$@#% did I do that?". See the reality seeping in? Because I'm feeling it.

 

[BrewCityBuck]

I'm talking about the cost of death penalty cases. If you want to put a guy to death it often times costs millions of dollars to put it through court. Of course lethal injection doesn't cost millions of dollars, it's the ridiculous cost of getting a death penalty conviction.Death Penalty has Cost New Jersey Taxpayers $253 MillionA New Jersey Policy Perspectives report concluded that the state's death penalty has cost taxpayers $253 million since 1983, a figure that is over and above the costs that would have been incurred had the state utilized a sentence of life without parole instead of death. http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.ph...=108&scid=7 This is just one big example.

 

[The`Dream]

shove some facts back in ure face I guess.. and from New Jersey once again no less<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The NJDOC is responsible for 14 major institutions -- eight adult male correctional facilities, three youth facilities, one facility for sex offenders, one women's correctional institution and a central reception/intake unit -- as well as a Stabilization and Reintegration Program.</div><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>These facilities collectively house approximately 23,000 inmates in minimum, medium and maximum security levels.</div><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The annual institutional cost per inmate is approximately $28,000</div>- http://www.state.nj.us/corrections/freqntlyasked.html14 x 23,000 x 28,0009,016,000,000 = over 9 billion dollars in one yearcomparedto your253 Million since 1983

 

[BrewCityBuck]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L_C @ Dec 14 2006, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>shove some facts back in ure face I guess.. and from New Jersey once again no less- http://www.state.nj.us/corrections/freqntlyasked.html14 x 23,000 x 28,0009,016,000,000 = over 9 billion dollars in one yearcomparedto your253 Million since 1983</div> To keep a person in prison thats 30 years old, in a life sentense...like you said it's pretty much $500,000 to keep him in prison his whole life and his court costs are $35,000. You give him the death penalty and his court costs are $750,000 and add in the $500,000 to keep him in prison for decades, you waste tons more time with court appeals, lots of money on more investigating...I just don't think it's worth the time and the extra money when nobody gets executed anyway. "From a strictly financial perspective, it is hard to reach a conclusion other than this: New Jersey taxpayers over the last 23 years have paid more than a quarter billion dollars on a capital punishment system that has executed no one," the report concluded.

 

[LiveAtTheHardwood]

I regret re-starting this argument about which costs more. The point (at least I thought it was, reading the first post) was which was more harsh to the criminal.

 

[BrewCityBuck]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LiveAtTheHardwood @ Dec 14 2006, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I regret re-starting this argument about which costs more. The point (at least I thought it was, reading the first post) was which was more harsh to the criminal.</div> You didn't re-start anything...LC and I did...the topic was obviously going to come down to this...because debating which is harsher is boring and only gets more boring...

 

[Something-To-Say]

Just take them, dress them like Mexicans, and set em loose round the redneck parts of texas.

 

[Opal]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Dec 15 2006, 12:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Just take them, dress them like Mexicans, and set em loose round the redneck parts of texas.</div>Racist AND pointless. Vintage S2S!I think life in prison without patrol is worse. May not be cheaper, but it is worth and that is what this topic is about; not the cost, the harsher penalty.

 

[Something-To-Say]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Camby23Land @ Dec 15 2006, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Racist AND pointless. Vintage S2S!I think life in prison without patrol is worse. May not be cheaper, but it is worth and that is what this topic is about; not the cost, the harsher penalty.</div>I don't know how that's racist... the word Mexican isn't racist, that's what they're called.

 

[costazatheassman]

Death. What is the cost of one bullet these days anyways?

 

[wade2shaq93]

Life in prison has to be worse. With death u just die and dont have to suffer. With life in prison, u have to sit in a cell for years without anything to do but think about what u did and read books and sh*t. I cant even go through one day w/o electricity and TV and sh*t w/o getting bored, just imagine how much it would suck to spend the rest of your life like that.I think unless it is someone really dangerous like Bin Laden or someone who could do something to the counrtry as a whole if he were to escape, we should not use the death penalty and dont use stuff that cost a lot like lethal injections, shoot them or go old school and hang them, how much can a rpoe or a gun cost compared to the injections?

 

[the_pestilence]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>the death penatly is only expensive because of the number of appeals and legal BS that goes on before a convict gets death. I believe it should be one appeal and if you lose that than you die. also it shouldn't be this lethal injection sh*t, thats another thing that cost a lot of money. it should be a bullet, its quick painless, effective and cheap.</div>yes, but people today still get executed when they're innocent, even with "all that legal BS". A lot of the people on death row are just there because they were at the scene and fit the description of, as Chapelle would say "A black man, height between 4'3" and 6'7"". Obviously I'm exaggerating somewhat, but there are a lot of undeserving people on death row even with all the appeals. The day we get an infallible court system is the day I'll support the penalty.

 

[Something-To-Say]

On the death penalty I say: If they admit to doing it, and it's severe enough, kill em.

 

[BrewCityBuck]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Mar 21 2007, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>On the death penalty I say: If they admit to doing it, and it's severe enough, kill em.</div> Yeah, but the thing is retard, they don't get killed.

 

[Something-To-Say]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Mar 21 2007, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, but the thing is retard, they don't get killed.</div>Then it's time to start. And don't call me retard again.