The Kevin Love "OFFICIAL" Trade Thread

[OneLifeToLive]

I'm not seeing the redundancy. Joakim Noah is pretty much the anti-Kevin Love. Love is a stretch 4 that attempted over 500 3-pointers last season and plays ZERO defense. Noah is the reigning Defensive Player of the year who hasn't made a single 3-pointer in his entire seven year NBA career.

Pau is somewhere in between. He's more of a low post scoring threat than either Love or Noah. He's a good rebounder, but not as good as Love. He's a decent defender, MUCH better than Love, but not nearly as good as Noah.

All three are excellent passing big men. If the Bulls could get Love, I could see all three coexisting and giving the Bulls a very productive 3-man rotation up front - similar to Sacramento when they had Vlade, Brad Miller and Chris Webber. That team had GREAT interior passing, and if not for a royal screw job by Stern's crooked refs, would have won an NBA championship.

BNM

It's too much of one thing when there isn't enough of another. The Bulls could use a couple of real dynamic wing players that can create their own shot, slash and can get to the hoop at the two or three. If you look at that rumor of BG's they are giving up all their wings just to bring in more of what they have.

I maintain, it doesn't make any sense.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

It's too much of one thing when there isn't enough of another. The Bulls could use a couple of real dynamic wing players that can create their own shot, slash and can get to the hoop at the two or three. If you look at that rumor of BG's they are giving up all their wings just to bring in more of what they have.

I maintain, it doesn't make any sense.

The other thing is what are the chances Pau would have signed if he knew this was coming?

 

[axs88]

Cavs are offering Anderson Varejao, Andrew Wiggins, Anthony Bennett and a No. 1 pick for Love and Bulls offer is Jimmy Butler, Taj Gibson, Doug McDermott and Nikola Mirotic. The Bulls are leaving room to sweeten the pot with a #1 pick.

Where are you getting this from? Makes no sense from Cleveland's standpoint, they are already thin at center, also don't think Wolves care for Varejao due to his age.

 

[BBert]

Why is this on the Blazers forum? The "official" Kevin Love thread should be...somewhere else.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Why is this on the Blazers forum? The "official" Kevin Love thread be...somewhere else.

The "local boy" is coming home just like LeBron, don't ya know?

 

[BBert]

The "local boy" is coming home just like LeBron, don't ya know?

I'd better go set out my lawn chair for the parade.

 

[Minstrel]

Where are you getting this from? Makes no sense from Cleveland's standpoint, they are already thin at center, also don't think Wolves care for Varejao due to his age.

Varejao is pretty necessary for salary matching purposes.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Where are you getting this from? Makes no sense from Cleveland's standpoint, they are already thin at center, also don't think Wolves care for Varejao due to his age.

Well I would think Varejao would have to be included in the deal?

 

[axs88]

Varejao is pretty necessary for salary matching purposes.

Not really. Cavs acquired a bunch of non-guaranteed contracts specifically for this. Something like this should work:

Link

(I included Tristan Thompson instead of Wiggins as the trade machine did not have AW on the Cavs' payroll yet, and Thompson's salary is close)

 

[BigGameDamian]

Not really. Cavs acquired a bunch of non-guaranteed contracts specifically for this. Something like this should work:

Link

(I included Tristan Thompson instead of Wiggins as the trade machine did not have AW on the Cavs' payroll yet, and Thompson's salary is close)

The Bulls trade is better and I think Minny knows this. Minny just wants that 1st round pick from Chicago also.

 

[BigGameDamian]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...pert-Tim-Hardaway-Jr-To-Wolves-For-Kevin-Love

The New York Knicks recently offered the Minnesota Timberwolves a package of Amar'e Stoudemire, Tim Hardaway Jr. and Iman Shumpert for Kevin Love, according to a source.

The Timberwolves reportedly declined the offer.

Hardaway has good value around the NBA, but Shumpert could be in line for a raise once his rookie contract ends and Stoudemire has one season left on his big contract.

The Knicks could offer Love a maximum contract if he becomes a free agent next offseason.

 

[Strenuus]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...pert-Tim-Hardaway-Jr-To-Wolves-For-Kevin-Love

The New York Knicks recently offered the Minnesota Timberwolves a package of Amar'e Stoudemire, Tim Hardaway Jr. and Iman Shumpert for Kevin Love, according to a source.

The Timberwolves reportedly declined the offer.

Hardaway has good value around the NBA, but Shumpert could be in line for a raise once his rookie contract ends and Stoudemire has one season left on his big contract.

The Knicks could offer Love a maximum contract if he becomes a free agent next offseason.

That offer is laughable at best.

Love will be a Cav in 30 days. The rest is just posturing.

 

[Draco]

I hope Cleveland doesn't trade Wiggins for Love. Wiggins can provide defense right now alongside LeBron. Love and LeBron are both best at PF. What if Love signs in LA next summer? These types of trades are why LeBron left Cleveland before; they mortgaged the future for overrated veterans.

 

[BigGameDamian]

I hope Cleveland doesn't trade Wiggins for Love. Wiggins can provide defense right now alongside LeBron. Love and LeBron are both best at PF. What if Love signs in LA next summer? These types of trades are why LeBron left Cleveland before; they mortgaged the future for overrated veterans.

Ya but Lebron has came out and said that he wants Love in Cleveland and Love wants to play with Lebron. Lebron didn't go to Cleveland to play with rookies.

 

[PDXFonz]

If love goes to the east then LA would be an all star starter and there would be an extra spot for a third blazer to be an all star next year.

 

[Rhal]

If love goes to the east then LA would be an all star starter and there would be an extra spot for a third blazer to be an all star next year.

No way LA gets voted in over griffin.

 

[maxiep]

Well Love did play for Lake Oswego high school.

Exactly. Even in HS he was a F'L*ker.

 

[magnifier661]

No way LA gets voted in over griffin.

Griffin is a pussy

 

[Rhal]

Griffin is a pussy

A pussy who plays in LA and will get a million votes just for that reason alone regardless of the fact he is also a top PF. Hell Lin will probably make it in as a starter now that he is in LA.

 

[BigGameDamian]

A pussy who plays in LA and will get a million votes just for that reason alone regardless of the fact he is also a top PF. Hell Lin will probably make it in as a starter now that he is in LA.

So once again it's large market vs. small market?

 

[Rhal]

So once again it's large market vs. small market?

Pretty much. Youv got to be a superstar or borderline superstar to get voted as a starter in a small market

 

[magnifier661]

Pretty much. Youv got to be a superstar or borderline superstar to get voted as a starter in a small market

Or have a billion Chinese like you

 

[maxiep]

If I'm Minny, I take the deal with Wiggins and never look back. They're like us; the only way they get a chance at an elite player is to draft one or trade for one. Swing for the fences. None of the Bulls' players have the upside of the players the Cavs are offering.

 

[magnifier661]

If I'm Minny, I take the deal with Wiggins and never look back. They're like us; the only way they get a chance at an elite player is to draft one or trade for one. Swing for the fences. None of the Bulls' players have the upside of the players the Cavs are offering.

I agree. And if you think Portland will have a tough time attracting free agents, just visit Minny in the winter. Grabbing the players offered will at least guarantee them for 5 years.

 

[MickZagger]

Mo seems like a selfish guy. He's basically admitting that he'd rather have $500k than to play in the playoffs on a contending team and abandon his friends. Still a 1 year deal. Minnesota is going to be in the bottom 3 in the West.

 

[illmatic99]

Mo seems like a selfish guy. He's basically admitting that he'd rather have $500k than to play in the playoffs on a contending team and abandon his friends. Still a 1 year deal. Minnesota is going to be in the bottom 3 in the West.

Maybe, but I'm having some doubts that we even offered him a contract (no matter how much).

 

[BigGameDamian]

Mo seems like a selfish guy. He's basically admitting that he'd rather have $500k than to play in the playoffs on a contending team and abandon his friends. Still a 1 year deal. Minnesota is going to be in the bottom 3 in the West.

I think this is just the way sports is general. There are a lot of players that would choose money over being on a playoff team.

 

[Minstrel]

I think this is just the way of humans in general.

I think that's a better summation.

 

[BigGameDamian]

I think that's a better summation.

Players may not come out and say it but they know if there on a team with a real chance to win a championship. If not most people would choose the money.

 

[MickZagger]

500k though? Really? Over the course of his career that's such a small amount. Meanwhile his career is winding down and he's going to play for a shitty Minnesota team.