The myth of Lillard Time

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The shot selection was awful, I was thinking in the entire time he was dribbling, yelling at him to drive and get fouled, or dish to CJ. Your stats even support what I wanted him to do (drive and get to the hole, where he is shooting 60% from 2-PT land in the same situations). His shot selection at times does drive me nuts.

It was your subject line that people took exception to, and the idea that "Lillard Time", pretty much a fan made up thing about him going off for spurts at a time was a myth, that I think drew most of the backlash in this thread.

Exactly...

There is a big difference between clutch and lillard time, but im on ignore for trying to get tot he bottom of it and being so annoying, lol.

I kinda did the same thing in my thread, but did I put people on ignore that disagreed with me? Nah... I learned from it..

Its obvious the thickness of ones skin is as much a variable as peoples opinions on what defines better... or what defines Lillard time... ;)
 
Watch "the shot."

There is only one player calling for the ball on that play.



Some players shy away from big moments, some players embrace them. Lillard is the best player on the team. Period. CJ is developing that killing instinct but we've all seen him fumble the ball away during high pressure situations. With the way this team is currently constructed I'm not seeing any other options.


I dont think ANYONE will deny lillard is the best player on the team probably the best blazer since clyde and I want the ball in his hands end of game, but that doesnt always mean you have to TAKE the last shot sometimes when the game is on the line using the extra attention you are getting to get someone like CJ or Crabbe an open look is better. I love lillard but sometimes he has the tendency to get tunnel vision. He wants to be known as the guy who puts the team on his back in crunch time but he still needs to learn when that means a shot for him and when it's a shot for someone else.
 
I dont think ANYONE will deny lillard is the best player on the team probably the best blazer since clyde and I want the ball in his hands end of game, but that doesnt always mean you have to TAKE the last shot sometimes when the game is on the line using the extra attention you are getting to get someone like CJ or Crabbe an open look is better. I love lillard but sometimes he has the tendency to get tunnel vision. He wants to be known as the guy who puts the team on his back in crunch time but he still needs to learn when that means a shot for him and when it's a shot for someone else.

The thing about that, is he HAS done that before, and these threads didn't exist.
 
All I know is.... I didn't see any of these threads when he was drop 30+ ppg and we were winning.

The thing about that, is he HAS done that before, and these threads didn't exist.

See? Some people think this place has become shitty because they cant post these things without an arguement/backlash.

I think this place is getting shitty because too many people ONLY post this type of stuff and never post ... or hardly ever post about positives when they happen.

Its like some people just cant handle success and just sit on their hands saying.. "ill just wait until they fuck up, then I will start commenting...."

That is what makes this place shitty....
 
See? Some people think this place has become shitty because they cant post these things without an arguement/backlash.

I think this place is getting shitty because too many people ONLY post this type of stuff and never post ... or hardly ever post about positives when they happen.

Its like some people just cant handle success and just sit on their hands saying.. "ill just wait until they fuck up, then I will start commenting...."

That is what makes this place shitty....

We have a lot of emotionally broken fans; look at the franchise and it makes sense that we would. It's no excuse, but it explains a lot. The worst poster of all time was also a Bills fan; that should tell you all you need to know.
 
We have a lot of emotionally broken fans; look at the franchise and it makes sense that we would. It's no excuse, but it explains a lot. The worst poster of all time was also a Bills fan; that should tell you all you need to know.

Man.. I was a Bills fan too. I loved that team of Thurman Thomas, Kelly, Beebee... man...I remember I couldn't lose on ummm ... was it Madden Football?....the with this team even against Aikmans Cowboys!!!


I think Ive worn out my opposition posts though. I feel the heart ache too, but I just don't like that feeling and prefer to try to stay positive... what I need to understand is not everyone is me, nor do they wan to be, and nor do they think like me. :)

I just... I watch news.. I think this world as whole needs more positive thinking minds...I take on too much of the worlds whoas... haha.
 
Man.. I was a Bills fan too. I loved that team of Thurman Thomas, Kelly, Beebee... man...I remember I couldn't lose on ummm ... was it Madden Football?....the with this team even against Aikmans Cowboys!!!


I think Ive worn out my opposition posts though. I feel the heart ache too, but I just don't like that feeling and prefer to try to stay positive... what I need to understand is not everyone is me, nor do they wan to be, and nor do they think like me. :)

I just... I watch news.. I think this world as whole needs more positive thinking minds...I take on too much of the worlds whoas... haha.

Yeah, everyone has their own unique take on our team. Personally, I like reading diverse opines whether they're positive or negative.
 
The difference between Roy and Dame:

Roy reportedly went to management and complained about Randolph. Asked them to trade him.

Dame tried to get Aldridge to stay -despite all the reports of Aldridge being a horrible teammate and leader.
 
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The thing about that, is he HAS done that before, and these threads didn't exist.

Im not saying lillard time is a myth that's a stretch too far, Im not saying it's a major flaw in his game or anything even, just shot selection could have been better in that particular situation. He still needs to be better at cherishing possessions especially late in games IMO. Sometimes I do feel terry's green light gives him a little more leeway than I would like but live by lillard time die by lillard time...
 

I've been quite the ass in trying to prove my point and probably failed at it.
I apologize to those I may have offended and only ask that you try to look at the point I was trying to make, not necessarily how I made it.
Specifically Yayuza and OldManGrouch.
 
Well... If you were trying to stir the pot?
Mission accomplished!
Honestly, I was trying to show how annoying it can be for many to constantly read the negative diatribe without being able to read any positive spins, by trying to be annoying with constant talk of the opposite...

I am very aware that both Homers and pessimists can be annoying. I felt the pessimists were having a field day, so I went to war. :)
I'm waiving the white flag now though because I don't think my point is coming across. I think most would rather just ignore me than see the lesson for what it was. :)

I was definitely trying to annoy, but definitely not trying to offend...
 
but that doesnt always mean you have to TAKE the last shot sometimes when the game is on the line using the extra attention you are getting to get someone like CJ or Crabbe an open look is better.

Again, watch the .9 shot. It's a great example. You can right click on the video and reduce the playback to half speed. Watch it once while focusing on each player. Remember that originally the play was for Aldridge. Lillard wasn't suppose to take the shot.



Who wanted the ball on that last shot? Lamarcus got pushed out of the play. It's easy to say if Lillard is being doubled teamed then CJ or Crabbe should get the ball but that is assuming that they're actively trying to get open and get the ball. Some players want the big shot and some players shy away from it.
 
Again, watch the .9 shot. It's a great example. You can right click on the video and reduce the playback to half speed. Watch it once while focusing on each player. Remember that originally the play was for Aldridge. Lillard wasn't suppose to take the shot.



Who wanted the ball on that last shot? Lamarcus got pushed out of the play. It's easy to say if Lillard is being doubled teamed then CJ or Crabbe should get the ball but that is assuming that they're actively trying to get open and get the ball. Some players want the big shot and some players shy away from it.


So let me get this straight.... you post this video and you automatically get "likes."

I'm going to start including this video in all my posts.
 
Do you think Damian plays the game as Stotts would have it? Or his he calling the shots because of his privileged position?

Well you know his kind... They never listen... :dry:
 
Again, watch the .9 shot. It's a great example. You can right click on the video and reduce the playback to half speed. Watch it once while focusing on each player. Remember that originally the play was for Aldridge. Lillard wasn't suppose to take the shot.



Who wanted the ball on that last shot? Lamarcus got pushed out of the play. It's easy to say if Lillard is being doubled teamed then CJ or Crabbe should get the ball but that is assuming that they're actively trying to get open and get the ball. Some players want the big shot and some players shy away from it.


Its a different situation tho... tie game with 13 secs you have time to work for a shot .9 seconds you dont... Ill say it again its not his mental make up or his ability it's the shot selection and that he has shown himself to be very predictable in late game situations. He tries to hit homeruns every single time it makes it very easy for opposing teams to gameplan against and take away.
 

Prediction

First team: Stephen Curry | Russell Westbrook
Second team: Chris Paul | Kyle Lowry
Third team: James Harden | Damian Lillard


Prediction

First team: Kevin Durant | LeBron James
Second team: Kawhi Leonard | Draymond Green
Third team: Paul George | Paul Millsap


Prediction

First team: DeMarcus Cousins
Second team: Anthony Davis
Third team: DeAndre Jordan
 
Prediction

First team: Stephen Curry | Russell Westbrook
Second team: Chris Paul | Kyle Lowry
Third team: James Harden | Damian Lillard


Prediction

First team: Kevin Durant | LeBron James
Second team: Kawhi Leonard | Draymond Green
Third team: Paul George | Paul Millsap


Prediction

First team: DeMarcus Cousins
Second team: Anthony Davis
Third team: DeAndre Jordan

Lillard should be above Lowry imo.
 
also, how many times have we seen dame drill back to back to back threes? Or even back to back threes? Quite a lot. Not a lot of players can do that. Especially 6'2 guards off the dribble. That's Lillard time to me. He's proven he's not afraid of crunch time. Yeah, he took a terrible shot a few days ago, I have seen him take that same shot to win a game another time, we all agree it could of been better shot selection. Oh well though. This dude has really progressed as a player and leader. He knows when to attack the rim now, he's a better passer, he's been playing out of his mind the second half of the season. He averages 26 and 7. imagine if dame had a dj or griffin, he would easily average 10 assists probably with 22 points a game or something. I'm gonna stick with defending dame. I don't think I could turn my back on the guy and start trashing him just for a shot selection. Not that anybody did but when was the last time a guy was vocal about wanting to actually stay here and you felt like he meant it?

Not only that but look at all the community work he does, the stuff with special Olympics,how marketable he is. Dudes a role model for kids in Portland, I don't think I have ever heard one childish thing out of him or some crazy career mistake he's made off the court. He lives in Portland all year. With his family and cj. Gotta be proud of this back court and the loyalty. Signed a 5 year extension with one year left on his other contract not knowing how the team would be because we lost 4 starters. He faced it head on and it's crazy to say we will probably make the playoffs. This team is quite the story
 

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