The Nets' short list: Danilo, B. Lopez, and Westbrook

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>One Week To Go
by Dave D.
Tuesday June 17, 2008, 11:13 PM

Aristide Economopoulos/Star-LedgerMr. Bill

A number of you have asked: Is there a short list? Do they have a fave?

Yes, and yes. We think.

Here's how it's shaking out in front of them: We're told that Milwaukee is leaning heavily toward Joe Alexander at No. 8 - we'll see if he upholds his agreement to work out for the Nets on Friday - and Charlotte is smitten with Russell Westbrook. And that second part seems like a lock: Arn Tellem told the Nets in the last few days that Westbrook will not work out for them, so he has a guarantee somewhere in the top 9.

What's that leave?

Right now, based on a few conversations and a healthy amount of deduction, this is what they're (probably) working with.

# At No. 10 - Danilo Gallinari, Brook Lopez (if he falls), and Westbrook, in that general order.

# At No. 21 - Brandon Rush (if he's there), Chris Douglas-Roberts (he had probably the best workout out of the 30-plus kids who have passed through), JaVale McGee (if he falls, which he won't), and Robin Lopez (who is rising).

Anthony Randolph? They don't rank him as highly as they do Gallinari, if only because the LSU kids doesn't shoot well enough and doesn't really have a position.

If you're wondering where Darrell Arthur has disappeared to, he's not in the picture at 10, either. But if he fades all the way to 21, they'll have a decision to make.

And if you're still under the impression that they're going to move one or both picks, don't hold your breath. Player development is the new mantra around here: If you can get a rotation player with the 21st pick and only have to pay him a rookie wage, there's no reason to move that selection for a flawed, overpriced veteran.

We're still told that the one move they want to make is cracking the top five, where they can land a 6-8, 255 pound kid with 13-percent body fat. Go figure. But that's Love for you.

* * * *

Meet the incredible shrinking coaching staff: You already know that Pat Sullivan is on his way to Detroit to join up with Team Curry, but now the Nets appear to be on the verge of losing Mr. Bill as well.

Bill Cartwright interviewed for the lead assistant job in Phoenix yesterday - presumably sitting down with both Terry Porter and fellow Bulls alum Steve Kerr - and given that he is without a contract, he isn't likely to wait for the Nets to make an offer to keep him around.

As of today, L-Frank has only two assistant coaches under contract, Brian Hill and Tom Barrise. The last two guys on the staff, the eminently capable coaching associate Jim Sann and shooting coach Bob Thate, both could return but are deciding where they're going to be in '08-09.

Happy addendum: Paul Coro tells us that Porter is also bringing in Buck Williams for an interview this week.</div>

Looks more and more like Danilo at 10.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Charlotte is smitten with Russell Westbrook</div>

Shit.

I'm not that excited about Brook Lopez either. Also, where's Hickson on that list?

How disappointing!
 
For some reason I have a feeling, a hunch the Knicks could take Danilo at 6.

At the same time, that means somebody drops.
 
I hope he's wrong about Lopez and trading up for Love.
 
Well that's not exactly what I was hoping to read.

And JaVale McGee? . . . oh no (in a tim taylor from home improvement voice)
 
Ugh, I really wanted Westbook, I don't really like Lopez and I'm not too excited about Danilo. I hope Gordon drops.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Jun 18 2008, 12:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well that's not exactly what I was hoping to read.

And JaVale McGee? . . . oh no (in a tim taylor from home improvement voice)</div>

What's wrong with McGee at #21? That's a pretty good prospect to get that low.

O'Bryant and Saer Sene went #9 and #10! These guys never drop.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jun 18 2008, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Jun 18 2008, 12:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well that's not exactly what I was hoping to read.

And JaVale McGee? . . . oh no (in a tim taylor from home improvement voice)</div>

What's wrong with McGee at #21? That's a pretty good prospect to get that low.

O'Bryant and Saer Sene went #9 and #10! These guys never drop.
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McGee needs time. I've made it pretty clear my personal preference in this draft is to stay away from kids who are years away from contributing. I think of McGee and Jordan in the same way in this sense; I'd prefer to look elsewhere even if they're available.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Jun 18 2008, 01:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jun 18 2008, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Jun 18 2008, 12:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well that's not exactly what I was hoping to read.

And JaVale McGee? . . . oh no (in a tim taylor from home improvement voice)</div>

What's wrong with McGee at #21? That's a pretty good prospect to get that low.

O'Bryant and Saer Sene went #9 and #10! These guys never drop.
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McGee needs time. I've made it pretty clear my personal preference in this draft is to stay away from kids who are years away from contributing. I think of McGee and Jordan in the same way in this sense; I'd prefer to look elsewhere even if they're available.
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But the Nets have three picks. Can't they get a nice contributor at #40 and still have a very good prospect in their pocket to develop?

That seems like the ideal draft to me.
 
why take danillo at 10 when you can take someone who can do everything he does and then some @ 40 in pat calathes?
 
my number one choice would be westbrook as well, but i would not be 1 bit upset if we got danilo
im startin to believe in the kid's talent... and if its true bout his mental focus and toughness why not?
 
Ugh. If we got Lopez, I'd go root for whatever team Donte drops to.

Lopez would be a worst case scenario draft.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ZAE @ Jun 17 2008, 11:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ugh, I really wanted Westbook, I don't really like Lopez and I'm not too excited about Danilo. I hope Gordon drops.</div>

That sums up my feelings exactly.

I'd rather have Danilo over Brook but if the unthinkable happens and Eric Gordon drops I will be a very happy Nets fan. Unless they inexplicably pass on him for either of those two, then I would hunt down Rod and Kiki.
 
re:Hickson, hopefully they just don’t expect him to last to 21, and will jump on him if he does. Thats what I’m hoping is with Koufos too.

It doesn’t seem like we’re going for athleticism as much as Thr0niki said. Focus seems to be more on skills, size, and a winning mentality. particularly if we wind up with the most likely scenario based on the above, Dani and CDR.
 
Why not Lopez? The team has had such great luck drafted a player who played with his brother on their college team. Feel the progression . . . Ed O'Bannon (betcha didn't remember that) . . . . Jason Collins . . . . Brook Lopez? Am I forgetting anyone?
 
Dear Kevin McHale,

You need a center. You NEED Brook Lopez.
Please save Rod and Kiki from themselves.

Thanks!

-ghoti
 
chill lol some of you guys are acting like this stuff is in cement. It really doesn't mean anything imo from here on out it's all bs and smokescreens.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-HoAgZ @ Jun 18 2008, 11:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>chill lol some of you guys are acting like this stuff is in cement. It really doesn't mean anything imo from here on out it's all bs and smokescreens.</div>

eh, yes and no. The draft hasn't panned out so who knows who will be available at 10, but at the same time I don't see the Nets brass leaking false information through the beat writers via anonymous sources.
 
Wow, I hate the names on this short list. We are about to continue in our strong tradition of bad drafts. First off, Westbrook will be terrible! Has anyone watched this guy? I watched a lot of his games, he's not a point, and he's not a 2 guard. He cannot shoot, and he didn't average more than 2 assists or so. He's a tweener that will be good for nothing and possibly out of the league after his rookie contract expires. Lopez, bleh, whatever. And Galinari is another soft Euro. Is this really the best we can do?

Just take a hard nosed guy with skills like Joe Alexander, that's your best bet right there. He rebounds, shoots, plays D, gets to the line a lot and plays with fire. That's what this team freakin' needs.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jun 18 2008, 09:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why not Lopez? The team has had such great luck drafted a player who played with his brother on their college team. Feel the progression . . . Ed O'Bannon (betcha didn't remember that) . . . . Jason Collins . . . . Brook Lopez? Am I forgetting anyone?</div> Yeah, Dennis and Howie Hopson, Rex and Tex Walters at Kansas and Yinka and Dinka Dare. Dinka didn't get many minutes, but he still averaged more assists than Yinka at GW.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 18 2008, 12:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>why take danillo at 10 when you can take someone who can do everything he does and then some @ 40 in pat calathes?</div>

You don't really believe that?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Jun 18 2008, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow, I hate the names on this short list. We are about to continue in our strong tradition of bad drafts. First off, Westbrook will be terrible! Has anyone watched this guy? I watched a lot of his games, he's not a point, and he's not a 2 guard. He cannot shoot, and he didn't average more than 2 assists or so. He's a tweener that will be good for nothing and possibly out of the league after his rookie contract expires. Lopez, bleh, whatever. And Galinari is another soft Euro. Is this really the best we can do?</div>
Did you really watch him play? In workouts with other teams he shot 36 out of 50 for threes (led all pg's). His midrange game is really really good. He gets a high release(for his size) and can stop in a dime. He's a great defender(what the Nets need off the bench). If he falls and the Nets don't draft him that would be a huge mistake.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rknine @ Jun 18 2008, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Jun 18 2008, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow, I hate the names on this short list. We are about to continue in our strong tradition of bad drafts. First off, Westbrook will be terrible! Has anyone watched this guy? I watched a lot of his games, he's not a point, and he's not a 2 guard. He cannot shoot, and he didn't average more than 2 assists or so. He's a tweener that will be good for nothing and possibly out of the league after his rookie contract expires. Lopez, bleh, whatever. And Galinari is another soft Euro. Is this really the best we can do?</div>
Did you really watch him play? In workouts with other teams he shot 36 out of 50 for threes (led all pg's). His midrange game is really really good. He gets a high release(for his size) and can stop in a dime. He's a great defender(what the Nets need off the bench). If he falls and the Nets don't draft him that would be a huge mistake.
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Great post.

I'm glad to welcome someone who knows what he is talking about to S2!
 
Another option: Trade down while also picking up a future draft pick to stash with the other assets.

Which team would want to move up to the tenth pick?

Do the Raptors have any interest in Danilo Gallinari? Would they trade 17th pick + future 1st for 10th pick?

Who else wants to move up?
 
well i like westbrooks workout with the blazers... he had great form and explosive to the hoop. sooo i guess he really got better since his ucla days in regards to the comments of mr footswalker
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jun 18 2008, 10:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dear Kevin McHale,

You need a center. You NEED Brook Lopez.
Please save Rod and Kiki from themselves.

Thanks!

-ghoti</div>

We need Joe Dumars to move up into the top 10, and save Kiki again.
 
Workouts are overrated. Any competent college or even high school player can drain wide open shots. How about when he's being guarded, and not guarded in a little 2 on 2 workout, where the players all try to make each other look good. He shot 33% from 3 last year. And that's with a guy like Love demanding double teams down low. So these were open looks from college distance and he shot 33%. Like I said, I watched him and he's not a shooter.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rknine @ Jun 18 2008, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Jun 18 2008, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow, I hate the names on this short list. We are about to continue in our strong tradition of bad drafts. First off, Westbrook will be terrible! Has anyone watched this guy? I watched a lot of his games, he's not a point, and he's not a 2 guard. He cannot shoot, and he didn't average more than 2 assists or so. He's a tweener that will be good for nothing and possibly out of the league after his rookie contract expires. Lopez, bleh, whatever. And Galinari is another soft Euro. Is this really the best we can do?</div>
Did you really watch him play? In workouts with other teams he shot 36 out of 50 for threes (led all pg's). His midrange game is really really good. He gets a high release(for his size) and can stop in a dime. He's a great defender(what the Nets need off the bench). If he falls and the Nets don't draft him that would be a huge mistake.
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Maybe if he falls to the second round. Do you really want to draft another backup point at 21? Like Marcus Williams? At least Williams was among the nation's leaders in assists. Westbrook averaged 2.5 assists for his college career (4.3 last year)? And he never had a double digit assist game either. Are those the numbers of a first round point guard? No freakin' way. So, he's neither a true shooter, or a point. He's a tweener that will be exposed at the next level, watch.
 
so foot would you rather take danilo at 10 than westbrook?
 

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