The Nets' short list: Danilo, B. Lopez, and Westbrook

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Jun 18 2008, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 18 2008, 12:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>why take danillo at 10 when you can take someone who can do everything he does and then some @ 40 in pat calathes?</div>

You don't really believe that?

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You really wanna take a white european at 10?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Jun 18 2008, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rknine @ Jun 18 2008, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Jun 18 2008, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow, I hate the names on this short list. We are about to continue in our strong tradition of bad drafts. First off, Westbrook will be terrible! Has anyone watched this guy? I watched a lot of his games, he's not a point, and he's not a 2 guard. He cannot shoot, and he didn't average more than 2 assists or so. He's a tweener that will be good for nothing and possibly out of the league after his rookie contract expires. Lopez, bleh, whatever. And Galinari is another soft Euro. Is this really the best we can do?</div>
Did you really watch him play? In workouts with other teams he shot 36 out of 50 for threes (led all pg's). His midrange game is really really good. He gets a high release(for his size) and can stop in a dime. He's a great defender(what the Nets need off the bench). If he falls and the Nets don't draft him that would be a huge mistake.
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Maybe if he falls to the second round. Do you really want to draft another backup point at 21? Like Marcus Williams? At least Williams was among the nation's leaders in assists. Westbrook averaged 2.5 assists for his college career (4.3 last year)? And he never had a double digit assist game either. Are those the numbers of a first round point guard? No freakin' way. So, he's neither a true shooter, or a point. He's a tweener that will be exposed at the next level, watch.
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Not a shooter, not a point, he'll be exposed and suck like Monta Ellis.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 18 2008, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Jun 18 2008, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rknine @ Jun 18 2008, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Jun 18 2008, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow, I hate the names on this short list. We are about to continue in our strong tradition of bad drafts. First off, Westbrook will be terrible! Has anyone watched this guy? I watched a lot of his games, he's not a point, and he's not a 2 guard. He cannot shoot, and he didn't average more than 2 assists or so. He's a tweener that will be good for nothing and possibly out of the league after his rookie contract expires. Lopez, bleh, whatever. And Galinari is another soft Euro. Is this really the best we can do?</div>
Did you really watch him play? In workouts with other teams he shot 36 out of 50 for threes (led all pg's). His midrange game is really really good. He gets a high release(for his size) and can stop in a dime. He's a great defender(what the Nets need off the bench). If he falls and the Nets don't draft him that would be a huge mistake.
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Maybe if he falls to the second round. Do you really want to draft another backup point at 21? Like Marcus Williams? At least Williams was among the nation's leaders in assists. Westbrook averaged 2.5 assists for his college career (4.3 last year)? And he never had a double digit assist game either. Are those the numbers of a first round point guard? No freakin' way. So, he's neither a true shooter, or a point. He's a tweener that will be exposed at the next level, watch.
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Not a shooter, not a point, he'll be exposed and suck like Monta Ellis.
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monta ellis does not suck...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 18 2008, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Jun 18 2008, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rknine @ Jun 18 2008, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Jun 18 2008, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow, I hate the names on this short list. We are about to continue in our strong tradition of bad drafts. First off, Westbrook will be terrible! Has anyone watched this guy? I watched a lot of his games, he's not a point, and he's not a 2 guard. He cannot shoot, and he didn't average more than 2 assists or so. He's a tweener that will be good for nothing and possibly out of the league after his rookie contract expires. Lopez, bleh, whatever. And Galinari is another soft Euro. Is this really the best we can do?</div>
Did you really watch him play? In workouts with other teams he shot 36 out of 50 for threes (led all pg's). His midrange game is really really good. He gets a high release(for his size) and can stop in a dime. He's a great defender(what the Nets need off the bench). If he falls and the Nets don't draft him that would be a huge mistake.
</div>
Maybe if he falls to the second round. Do you really want to draft another backup point at 21? Like Marcus Williams? At least Williams was among the nation's leaders in assists. Westbrook averaged 2.5 assists for his college career (4.3 last year)? And he never had a double digit assist game either. Are those the numbers of a first round point guard? No freakin' way. So, he's neither a true shooter, or a point. He's a tweener that will be exposed at the next level, watch.
</div>

Not a shooter, not a point, he'll be exposed and suck like Monta Ellis.
</div>
lol, yeah, he's the next Monta Ellis. Every tweener is now the next Ellis. Ellis would've averaged 20 points in his sleep at a major D1 school. Westbrook averaged what, 12? So, he's not a scorer either. That's strike 3 by the way. Maybe he's got great intangibles, though, lol.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (logik15 @ Jun 18 2008, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 18 2008, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Jun 18 2008, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rknine @ Jun 18 2008, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Jun 18 2008, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow, I hate the names on this short list. We are about to continue in our strong tradition of bad drafts. First off, Westbrook will be terrible! Has anyone watched this guy? I watched a lot of his games, he's not a point, and he's not a 2 guard. He cannot shoot, and he didn't average more than 2 assists or so. He's a tweener that will be good for nothing and possibly out of the league after his rookie contract expires. Lopez, bleh, whatever. And Galinari is another soft Euro. Is this really the best we can do?</div>
Did you really watch him play? In workouts with other teams he shot 36 out of 50 for threes (led all pg's). His midrange game is really really good. He gets a high release(for his size) and can stop in a dime. He's a great defender(what the Nets need off the bench). If he falls and the Nets don't draft him that would be a huge mistake.
</div>
Maybe if he falls to the second round. Do you really want to draft another backup point at 21? Like Marcus Williams? At least Williams was among the nation's leaders in assists. Westbrook averaged 2.5 assists for his college career (4.3 last year)? And he never had a double digit assist game either. Are those the numbers of a first round point guard? No freakin' way. So, he's neither a true shooter, or a point. He's a tweener that will be exposed at the next level, watch.
</div>

Not a shooter, not a point, he'll be exposed and suck like Monta Ellis.
</div>

monta ellis does not suck...
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I didn't know it broke, here's a new one!

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danxcr @ Jun 18 2008, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>so foot would you rather take danilo at 10 than westbrook?</div>
I haven't seen enough of Danilo, but from what I've seen of Westbrook, yes. Mario Chalmers will be a better pro than Westbrook.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 18 2008, 05:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I guess it doesn't matter that Westbrook was DPOY in the Pac-10...</div>
Okay, so you want to draft a backup pg, defensive specialist with the 10th pick in the draft? You must be a big Darrell Armsrtong fan...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 18 2008, 06:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Jun 18 2008, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 18 2008, 12:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>why take danillo at 10 when you can take someone who can do everything he does and then some @ 40 in pat calathes?</div>

You don't really believe that?

</div>

You really wanna take a white european at 10?
</div>

why not? hes suppose to be solid and still has massive potential... you woundnt cause hes white? or cause hes euro?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Jun 18 2008, 06:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 18 2008, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Jun 18 2008, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rknine @ Jun 18 2008, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Jun 18 2008, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow, I hate the names on this short list. We are about to continue in our strong tradition of bad drafts. First off, Westbrook will be terrible! Has anyone watched this guy? I watched a lot of his games, he's not a point, and he's not a 2 guard. He cannot shoot, and he didn't average more than 2 assists or so. He's a tweener that will be good for nothing and possibly out of the league after his rookie contract expires. Lopez, bleh, whatever. And Galinari is another soft Euro. Is this really the best we can do?</div>
Did you really watch him play? In workouts with other teams he shot 36 out of 50 for threes (led all pg's). His midrange game is really really good. He gets a high release(for his size) and can stop in a dime. He's a great defender(what the Nets need off the bench). If he falls and the Nets don't draft him that would be a huge mistake.
</div>
Maybe if he falls to the second round. Do you really want to draft another backup point at 21? Like Marcus Williams? At least Williams was among the nation's leaders in assists. Westbrook averaged 2.5 assists for his college career (4.3 last year)? And he never had a double digit assist game either. Are those the numbers of a first round point guard? No freakin' way. So, he's neither a true shooter, or a point. He's a tweener that will be exposed at the next level, watch.
</div>

Not a shooter, not a point, he'll be exposed and suck like Monta Ellis.
</div>
lol, yeah, he's the next Monta Ellis. Every tweener is now the next Ellis. Ellis would've averaged 20 points in his sleep at a major D1 school. Westbrook averaged what, 12? So, he's not a scorer either. That's strike 3 by the way. Maybe he's got great intangibles, though, lol.
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I guess that's why Monta Ellis fell to the 40's! A guy who could average 20 ppg in his sleep, 40th overall pick.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danxcr @ Jun 18 2008, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 18 2008, 06:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Jun 18 2008, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 18 2008, 12:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>why take danillo at 10 when you can take someone who can do everything he does and then some @ 40 in pat calathes?</div>

You don't really believe that?

</div>

You really wanna take a white european at 10?
</div>

why not? hes suppose to be solid and still has massive potential... you woundnt cause hes white? or cause hes euro?
</div>

Yea, we all know white guys can't play basketball.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Jun 18 2008, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Maybe if he falls to the second round. Do you really want to draft another backup point at 21? Like Marcus Williams? At least Williams was among the nation's leaders in assists. Westbrook averaged 2.5 assists for his college career (4.3 last year)? And he never had a double digit assist game either. Are those the numbers of a first round point guard? No freakin' way. So, he's neither a true shooter, or a point. He's a tweener that will be exposed at the next level, watch.</div>
The reason Marcus fell was bcuz his measurements were horrible(12.4 body fat/small wingspan/bad speed..etc). There is no way Westbrook falls to 21. Please don't count Westbrook's freshman year he hardly played. 4.3 apg is great for a combo guard(what the Nets need off the bench he should replace Marcus plus he can also backup carter). His wingspan/standing reach is the size of an avg SG in the nba and his speed is harris like.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Jun 18 2008, 06:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Workouts are overrated. Any competent college or even high school player can drain wide open shots. How about when he's being guarded, and not guarded in a little 2 on 2 workout, where the players all try to make each other look good. He shot 33% from 3 last year. And that's with a guy like Love demanding double teams down low. So these were open looks from college distance and he shot 33%. Like I said, I watched him and he's not a shooter.</div>


Yeah I love how the players are just so nice to one another. "Hey Russel! Yeah hey I'd rather see you drain 20 points on me then show these NBA scouts how I play defense!" "Gee, thanks!"

edit: and this thread is in SERIOUS need of more sarcasm detectors
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 18 2008, 06:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Jun 18 2008, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 18 2008, 12:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>why take danillo at 10 when you can take someone who can do everything he does and then some @ 40 in pat calathes?</div>

You don't really believe that?

</div>

You really wanna take a white european at 10?
</div>

OK, maybe I'm just blanking, but (aside from the French) how many black Europeans are there in the NBA? I'm not sure you COULD draft one.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng @ Jun 18 2008, 08:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 18 2008, 06:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Jun 18 2008, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 18 2008, 12:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>why take danillo at 10 when you can take someone who can do everything he does and then some @ 40 in pat calathes?</div>

You don't really believe that?

</div>

You really wanna take a white european at 10?
</div>

OK, maybe I'm just blanking, but (aside from the French) how many black Europeans are there in the NBA? I'm not sure you COULD draft one.
</div>

Jerome Moiso! that worked out well.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng @ Jun 18 2008, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not sure you COULD draft one.</div>

Batum! Ajinca!

edit: wait, yinka, yao ming is black?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng @ Jun 18 2008, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 18 2008, 06:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Jun 18 2008, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 18 2008, 12:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>why take danillo at 10 when you can take someone who can do everything he does and then some @ 40 in pat calathes?</div>

You don't really believe that?

</div>

You really wanna take a white european at 10?
</div>

OK, maybe I'm just blanking, but (aside from the French) how many black Europeans are there in the NBA? I'm not sure you COULD draft one.
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Francisco Elson, Thabo Sefolasha, and (I had to look this one up:) Pops Mensah-Bonsu.

And GMJ: He said aside from the French!

EDIT: And this guy:
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Jun 18 2008, 08:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng @ Jun 18 2008, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not sure you COULD draft one.</div>

Batum! Ajinca!

edit: wait, yinka, yao ming is black?
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he said not french.
 
Sofocles is NOT in the NBA. Pops is African and NOT in the NBA. If you call him European, then so is Luol Deng.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 18 2008, 11:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sofocles is NOT in the NBA. Pops is African and NOT in the NBA. If you call him European, then so is Luol Deng.</div>

He's talking about drafting them...and Sofocles was drafted.

And Pops is British, born and raised.

Luol Deng was born in Sudan, and raised there, Egypt, and England.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 19 2008, 12:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pops is from Ghana.</div>

Pops has an English accent, he was developed, raised, and socialized via England.

Also his name is "King of the Whale Killers" which makes him cooler than any of us.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 19 2008, 12:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pops is from Ghana.</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Nana Papa Yaw Dwene Mensah-Bonsu, generally known as Pops Mensah-Bonsu (born September 7, 1983 in London), is a British basketball player with Spanish team CB Granada.

....
Having been born and brought up in North London, England....</div>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pops_Mensah_Bonsu

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The London-born forward was unable to make his debut in a Great Britain jersey last year owing to contractual issues with his then team Dallas Mavericks, but after a season of playing in Italy and finding his form Mensah-Bonsu cannot wait to step out for his country.</div>
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/18042008/58/...g-gb-debut.html
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Personal: Born September 7, 1983 in London, England</div>
http://gwsports.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/m...nsu_pops01.html

Really now
 
So you're saying George Washington University, the school Pops went to, is wrong?

You'd think they'd know.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jun 19 2008, 01:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nope, he's British</div>

I don't know why I even bother. You are a retard.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 19 2008, 01:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jun 19 2008, 01:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nope, he's British</div>

I don't know why I even bother. You are a retard.
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That's pretty sad then, considering I'm smarter than you
 
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