The next Dennis Rodman?

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Seems like a 2nd round pick for an average team. Perhaps an elite team will take a shot on him late in the 1st round. There are some decent PGs available in the area where Portland should have 2 picks. Perhaps they can be packaged to a team like Houston to move a few spots and nab Kemba Walker/Brandon Knight late in the lottery?
 
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I would be interested to see what his combine numbers turn out to be. Is he really 6'8", or is he 6'6". How is his reach and other measurements. THe difference between a 6'10 and 7' player is not that great, but the difference between a 6'8" big and a 6'6" big is huge.

I love his hustle, and would certainly be open to the idea drafting him. They do say the one stat that translates the best to the NBA is rebounding, and he has that mastered.
 
Or is he the next Renaldo Balkman?

That was my initial thought, I think because of his hair, primarily. But Balkman never came close to rebounding like him when he was in college.
 
He's more in the Millsap mode than Balkman.
 
Balkman was known as a stopper/motor guy that moved up to play SF, not necessarily a rebounding beast. Millsap and Faried are smallish bigs that played up (Millsap at C and KF at PF/C) And Millsap didn't have a polished game at all when he came to the league.

Millsap’s biggest virtue as far as the NBA is concerned is easily his rebounding ability. He has suction cups for hands and is aided greatly by his outstanding motor and terrific reach

Millsap has a fairly soft touch around the basket and knows how to use the glass, even though he clearly prefers to make a statement by throwing down powerful dunks. He can finish with the jump-hook or baby hook shot in and around the paint area, and shoots a very high percentage from the field at 57%.

That is mostly the extent of his offensive game at this point except for some basic spin-moves and a nice baseline jump-shot he will show on occasion, but not nearly enough. He gets his points quietly, within the flow of the offense and doesn’t show anything close to a superstar attitude when he’s not getting enough touches.

He’s clearly uncomfortable operating outside of 12 feet, possessing very basic ball-handling skills and not enough range on his jump shot, at least not on a consistent basis.

Don’t expect anything flashy out of him, he’s a lunch pail type who will get the job done and go home without making much noise.

The majority of his scoring contributions come from his excellent ability to catch the ball in mid air and dunk it, either in transition, on alley-oops, cuts through the lane, or just getting open around the rim. He has excellent hands and the hand-eye coordination to go with it, catching and finishing virtually everything thrown his way.

The other area Faried provides strong contributions on the offensive end is with his unbelievable rebounding ability, as he shows excellent timing, positioning, and leaping ability in that regard. His motor is non-stop both in regards to rebounding and getting open without the ball, constantly moving, reading the defense, and trying to post up his man.
. He displays all of the characteristics that most of the great rebounders do—showing outstanding hands, instincts, timing and reflexes pursuing loose balls ferociously, relishing contact and not having any problem sacrificing his body to help his team come up with an extra possession.

Offensively, Faried has made big strides over the past few years, but still projects as a role-player at best against higher level competition. He does an excellent job finishing around the basket thanks to his toughness, aggressiveness and solid explosiveness, usually finishing above the rim in emphatic fashion. His face-up game has improved quite a bit, being capable of taking his man off the dribble with nice footwork and hitting a decent amount of mid-range jumpers last season. In terms of creating his own offense, Faried is still very raw, showing flashes of post-up and face-up ability at times, but nothing really at an NBA level.

I'm not saying Faried is polished at all, but the similarities are there, imho.
 
I watched Millsap in college quite a few times and he had a silky smooth baseline jumper and good moves around the basket.
 
Rebounding, above any other statistic, is something that is likely to carry forward into the NBA. If he can rebound AND do something else, then he's probably going to be an NBA player.

Dennis Rodman, though? He was a freak in a variety of ways and I don't think that anyone will see the next Rodman coming.

Ed O.
 
I would be interested to see what his combine numbers turn out to be. Is he really 6'8", or is he 6'6". How is his reach and other measurements. THe difference between a 6'10 and 7' player is not that great, but the difference between a 6'8" big and a 6'6" big is huge.

I love his hustle, and would certainly be open to the idea drafting him. They do say the one stat that translates the best to the NBA is rebounding, and he has that mastered.

Let me add to your post that he's a man playing amongst boys. Just like Babbitt was, he plays against far far inferior players. Like JC ball. For him, it'll be a bigger jump to the NBA.
 
Let me add to your post that he's a man playing amongst boys. Just like Babbitt was, he plays against far far inferior players. Like JC ball. For him, it'll be a bigger jump to the NBA.

Well, against Florida he had 20pts, 18 rebs. Against #1 Ohio St. he put up 15pts, 12 rebs and 5 stls.

So, its not like he struggles when playing good competition.
 
Well, against Florida he had 20pts, 18 rebs. Against #1 Ohio St. he put up 15pts, 12 rebs and 5 stls.

So, its not like he struggles when playing good competition.

I get that. Nonetheless, it'll still be a bigger jump. I mean, didn't Babbitt have some good stats at the 'dance' as well? Now look at him. It's like the kid who drags himself in the house after a long day out playing street ball. His dad asks how's it going, and the kid replies, "It was really great until the big kids got out of school".
 
Babbitt didn't make the "dance". Somehow, with two NBA players(Yippee, both ours!) their team didn't make the tourney. Looking at last season, they played basically one good team. Carolina, who didn't make the tournament, and he shot 5-18, went for 15 and 11.
 
I get that. Nonetheless, it'll still be a bigger jump. I mean, didn't Babbitt have some good stats at the 'dance' as well? Now look at him. It's like the kid who drags himself in the house after a long day out playing street ball. His dad asks how's it going, and the kid replies, "It was really great until the big kids got out of school".

Scoring and rebounding are different, though. Amazing scorers in college (at different levels) routinely fail, while amazing rebounders have a better success rate in the NBA.

Ed O.
 
Its funny that people are closing the book on Babbitt already. Hell, I think all the knee-jerker's closed the book after preseason.

..And yes, Babbitt never made the 'dance'.
 
Its funny that people are closing the book on Babbitt already. Hell, I think all the knee-jerker's closed the book after preseason.

I agree it's too early to write him off. The thing he is known for is his shooting... he just needs to get good enough at other things to get on the floor. His shooting should be there when he does.

I have confidence that he'll turn into a solid player at some point.

Ed O.
 
Scoring and rebounding are different, though. Amazing scorers in college (at different levels) routinely fail, while amazing rebounders have a better success rate in the NBA.

Ed O.

That's true. Rebounding is part attitude.
 
Its funny that people are closing the book on Babbitt already. Hell, I think all the knee-jerker's closed the book after preseason.

..And yes, Babbitt never made the 'dance'.

I, for one, haven't closed his book. I think he just has a longer way to go than most rookies due to his background.
 
One of the last college prospects that KP watched at the practice facility this summer.

The way he dominates the boards since his FR year is eerily similar to Milsap in college.
 
One of the last college prospects that KP watched at the practice facility this summer.

The way he dominates the boards since his FR year is eerily similar to Milsap in college.

You're right. I forgot we brought him in for a workout.
 
I still think he's worth a late first round pick. Portland may be drafting in the 22-24 range by the end of the year.
 
Let me add to your post that he's a man playing amongst boys. Just like Babbitt was, he plays against far far inferior players. Like JC ball. For him, it'll be a bigger jump to the NBA.

So, I've been semi-watching the Morehead State v Louisville game today, and I knew nothing about anyone that I was seeing on the court, except that every time I looked up, the dreadlocked dude in blue was making some fantastic hustle play, sucking up all the rebounds, facing up his defender and blowing right past him, and generally making good things happen every time he saw the ball. It wasn't until late in the game that I was watching while a graphic was put up with his name that I remembered this thread.

Mid-Major or not, it is clear that the dude can play ball, and I would love to have him on our bench for next season (if there is one). Based on this tourney game alone, he definitely seems worthy of a late-first-round flier.
 
Gee it might have been nice to have a guy who hustles and rebounds like crazy last night.
 
EVERYONE on this board wanted him. Dunno wtf the font office was thinking but we passed on him.
I remember watching the draft with a friend of mine and as he stayed on the board we were getting more and more excited then we learned we got Felton which was kinda cool but our pick comes up we are almost jumping out of our seats because we think were getting Farried and suddenly we take Nolan Smith who was projected as a second rounder. We were both so stunned and pretty upset.
 
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Gee it might have been nice to have a guy who hustles and rebounds like crazy last night.

No Shit. Talk about making Nate McMillan eat Crow. Rebounding and a solid PG is exactly what we need right now, and it's exactly what we gave away that draft day.


EVERYONE on this board wanted him. Dunno wtf the font office was thinking but we passed on him.
I remember watching the draft with a friend of mine and as he stayed on the board we were getting more and more excited then we learned we got Felton which was kinda cool but our pick comes up we are almost jumping out of our seats because we think were getting Farried and suddenly we take Nolan Smith who was projected as a second rounder. We were both so stunned and pretty upset.

What Front Office? It was Fucking Fired.

Had almost the exact same experience of the draft, WTF who is Nolan Smith? Had to look him up.
 
No Shit. Talk about making Nate McMillan eat Crow. Rebounding and a solid PG is exactly what we need right now, and it's exactly what we gave away that draft day.

I said it in my draft grade thread (F-) and it bears repeating after last night. That trade made us worse and a division rival better. The absolute worst kind of trade you can make. We got a younger, but worse PG and passed up the opportunity to draft Faried. Stupid, stupid, stupid, and another fine example of why our head of college scouting should NOT be our interim GM, let alone a semi-permanent one.

BNM
 
You know it's bad when we ate already talking about draft picks this early in the season. Yikes!!!!!
 

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