Zombie The Next Siakam? Don't Sleep On Zach Collins.

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I was excited when we drafted him, but his foul trouble and average offense at best can be frustrated sometimes, it's definetly time to give him the starting spot at PF, his ceiling is high, the only question is can he reach it ? Hopefully
 
Labinot41 said:
I was excited when we drafted him, but his foul trouble and average offense at best can be frustrated sometimes, it's definetly time to give him the starting spot at PF, his ceiling is high, the only question is can he reach it ? Hopefully
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Average offense at best? He had above average effeciency last year on average shot volume. Dont see how hes simply average at best, maybe average in general. But then again, so was Siakam in his 2nd year.
 
Yes, a very smooth presentation.

I really liked, and appreciated the on screen stats comparison graphics during the first half of the video.

A suggestion.
During the second half, you mention comparison stats, but do not include the graphics. It was much more difficult for my old slow brain to follow, and comprehend without the graphics.
 
oldfisherman said:
Yes, a very smooth presentation.

I really liked, and appreciated the on screen stats comparison graphics during the first half of the video.

A suggestion.
During the second half, you mention comparison stats, but do not include the graphics. It was much more difficult for my old slow brain to follow, and comprehend without the graphics.
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Agreed. I was on a time crunch though so I wanted to get it out.
 
I havent watched the video yet, (I will). I dont really see the comparison in how they play though. Siakam’s kind of a long rangey defender thats effective at getting steals and being in passing lanes, collins is a good help defender and makes really good reads and just knows where to be on a basketball court. I also dont think there very similar athletes in how they move. Siakam moves like a 3-4 tweener forward type. Zach moves much more like a Kevin Garnett / Tim Duncan type, 4/5. I guess its all just my opinion.

Also like I said havent watched the video yet, but I will. If were just strictly talking that Zach “could” make a big jump in production this year like Siakam did, I am still largely undecided on Zach, theres a lot of question marks, but I think he has potential and its definitely possible.
 
Another who hasn't watched the video(sorry, not a big video watcher, but maybe I'll give it a go here in a bit), so maybe it was touched upon, but another big thing to take into consideration is their respective ages, Pascal was 23.5 entering his second year, Collins didn't turn 21 until a month or so into the season. For it to be comparable is good. I'm sure someone could find counter arguments to it as well, but the situations are similar, a 3rd year player on the verge of a much bigger role.
 
RR7 said:
Another who hasn't watched the video(sorry, not a big video watcher, but maybe I'll give it a go here in a bit), so maybe it was touched upon, but another big thing to take into consideration is their respective ages, Pascal was 23.5 entering his second year, Collins didn't turn 21 until a month or so into the season. For it to be comparable is good. I'm sure someone could find counter arguments to it as well, but the situations are similar, a 3rd year player on the verge of a much bigger role.
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Give it a go, its only 7 minutes and it's my video:bgrin:

I did address these things! It's pretty in-depth!
 
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TorturedBlazerFan said:
I havent watched the video yet, (I will). I dont really see the comparison in how they play though. Siakam’s kind of a long rangey defender thats effective at getting steals and being in passing lanes, collins is a good help defender and makes really good reads and just knows where to be on a basketball court. I also dont think there very similar athletes in how they move. Siakam moves like a 3-4 tweener forward type. Zach moves much more like a Kevin Garnett / Tim Duncan type, 4/5. I guess its all just my opinion.

Also like I said havent watched the video yet, but I will. If were just strictly talking that Zach “could” make a big jump in production this year like Siakam did, I am still largely undecided on Zach, theres a lot of question marks, but I think he has potential and its definitely possible.
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I address all that! I look at factors that go into a big 3rd year leap with Siakam as an example and apply them to Collins.

I wish people would just watch the video first! I tried to look at the whole picture!
 
BonesJones said:
I address all that! I look at factors that go into a big 3rd year leap with Siakam as an example and apply them to Collins.

I wish people would just watch the video first! I tried to look at the whole picture!
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Until frontier fixes the line to my house the only internet access I have is through my phone and I get terrible reception out here, even s2 takes a while to load.

That said, I will watch it eventually.

I have heard a lot of arguments before though about Collins and Siakam.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Until frontier fixes the line to my house the only internet access I have is through my phone and I get terrible reception out here, even s2 takes a while to load.

That said, I will watch it eventually.

I have heard a lot of arguments before though about Collins and Siakam.
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Your phone called me 3 times today and I could hear you driving but you obviously weren't calling.
 
This is what I got out of the very well done video

Comparing both players second seasons, a case can be made that Zach was the better player.

Also, along with a large increase in Siakam's minutes. He increased his 3pt% from 22% to 37% earning him the MIP award. That is a huge increase. Zach has been around 33% his first two seasons.
 
JoshuaHall said:
No because the premise is inherently flawed, in my opinion.

Just like if someone titled a video, “The next Michael Jordan? Don’t sleep on Anfernee Simons.” — wouldn’t watch it.
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You dont understand the premise so how can you say its flawed? Thats why you watch first.

Its comparing their situational similarities and a few of their similar strengths (which arent ALL), and how those factors led to Siakams 3rd year jump, and could for Collins as well.

I cant believe you think the difference between Collins and Siakam are as big as Anfernee and Michael Jordan. Amazing.
 
oldfisherman said:
This is what I got out of the very well done video

Comparing both players second seasons, a case can be made that Zach was the better player.

Also, along with a large increase in Siakam's minutes. He increased his 3pt% from 22% to 37% earning him the MIP award. That is a huge increase. Zach has been around 33% his first two seasons.
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Yup! And the slight uptick in shot volume for Siakam should be possible for Collins due to how teams will play are backcourt. Many factors that led Siakam to becoming MIP are there for Collins as well! Its a shame some people cant get over the title.
 
I think he was breaking out during the Denver series last year in the playoffs and couple good games against the warriors. So this year I do think he well put it all together on the offensive end because defensely in the playoffs he was pretty damn good and his defense stats show that.
 
Labinot41 said:
I was excited when we drafted him, but his foul trouble and average offense at best can be frustrating sometimes
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Yeah, I feel the same way. Haven’t seen much of an offensive game from Collins yet. Hope he has one.
 
Binx said:
Yeah, I feel the same way. Haven’t seen much of an offensive game from Collins yet. Hope he has one.
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Its weird, Zach looks so natural on Defense (yeah he gets called for too many fouls), but offensively looks so awkward to me.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Its weird, Zach looks so natural on Defense (yeah he gets called for too many fouls), but offensively looks so awkward to me.
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That's what you get drafting a 19 year old big man with little NCAA experience. Always been another project.
 
The fact that Zach started to come out during the playoffs last year means he was doing it against some of the best players in the NBA. I think if the refs will leave him alone and a few of those calls will go away. If he takes the next step I think it will be a very exciting time for the Blazers.
Good video by the way. I cant wait for the next one " Anfernee vs. Michael"
 
borim69 said:
The fact that Zach started to come out during the playoffs last year means he was doing it against some of the best players in the NBA. I think if the refs will leave him alone and a few of those calls will go away. If he takes the next step I think it will be a very exciting time for the Blazers.
Good video by the way. I cant wait for the next one " Anfernee vs. Michael"
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Michael wasn't even good enough to make the NBA until he was 21. The premise for your comparison is inherently flawed. 0/10; would not watch.
 
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