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Hubie Brown just referred to Allen and Randolph as the Grizzlies' best defenders. Why did we trade him again?
 
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The Grizzlies simply aren't that good. How did they make the playoffs?
 
KingSpeed said:
Hubie Brown just referred to Allen and Randolph as the Grizzlies' best defenders. Why did we trade him again?
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Randolph is NOT a good defender. Just because Hubie says something in the heat of the moment doesn't make it true.
 
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Dre did this in PHX in game 1 when he was with us a few years ago. They switched Grant Hill onto him from the next game onwards, and Nate failed to adjust. smh
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Still mad Batum did NOTHING against freaken Nash that whole series.
 
Former Blazer Robert Pack just got a technical sitting on the bench for the Clippers. Former Blazer are everywhere today.
 
KingSpeed said:
Former Blazer Robert Pack just got a technical sitting on the bench for the Clippers. Former Blazer are everywhere today.
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They're veritable tribbles.
 
Bayless, with 19 points, is the leading scorer in the game right now. All of our PGs are playing so well!
 
Marc Gasol getting clowned on the glass. Not the best center in the league. How can you be the best center in the league and only grab 2 rebounds?
 
KingSpeed said:
Marc Gasol getting clowned on the glass. Not the best center in the league. How can you be the best center in the league and only grab 2 rebounds?
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Like I said in the game thread, that was an anomaly. It was the whole team, not just Gasol. Randolph only had 4, and he's regarded as one of the top rebounders in the league. That won't happen three more times in this series -

I'll just repost what I said in that thread -

"They're #2 in the NBA in Rebounding %, they average 43 rebounds on the year, but they only got 23 tonight to the Clippers' 47.

I'd consider that more of an anomaly than a testament to how the series will play out, because if you look at the season series so far this season, the Grizzlies have split the rebounding battle, winning two out of four games on the boards and never getting outrebounded by more than three. I can't see the Grizz doing that poorly on the glass in three more games."

Also, as for that being relevant to Gasol's rank as center, that's not even really his role. If you look at the statsheet, he also led the entire game in assists, was second on the team in scoring, and made several important defensive stops when the game was in question. In fact, I'm not sure I've ever even said that he's the best center in the league, because I'd have Duncan over him on the first team. I just think you underrate the hell out of his game.
 
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Yes you did say he was the best center in the league but now you're taking it back which is fine. You can't be a great center and have just 2 rebounds in the most important game of the year. You just can't. There's no excuse. Regular season stats mean absolutely nothing. Also, when was the game in question? The Clippers owned the second half, the whole game really. There wasn't a single moment in the game when I thought Memphis might win. The Clippers were in control the whole way. A couple stops? So what? He's not that great. I'm more impressed with Javale McGee.
 
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KingSpeed said:
Yes you did say he was the best center in the league but now you're taking it back which is fine. You can't be a great center and have just 2 rebounds in the most important game of the year. You just can't. There's no excuse. Regular season stats mean absolutely nothing. Also, when was the game in question? The Clippers owned the second half, the whole game really. There wasn't a single moment in the game when I thought Memphis might win. The Clippers were in control the whole way. A couple stops? So what? He's not that great. I'm more impressed with Javale McGee.
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First of all, I'm not taking anything back. I posted that I'd have him on the second team just a few days ago, in a thread that you started for that matter -

"I've never really been a homer for Grizz players, but from all of the players I've seen go through this program since they came here in '01, I think that Marc's by far and away been the most important player to ever play for the franchise, especially in this season. If you take Gasol off of this team, they're a lower seed playoff team in the West. Personally, I'd have him 2nd team All-NBA, 1st team All-Defense, and an honorable mention for D-POY (because it'd be a shame if Allen didn't finally win the award he's deserved for three straight years)."

Secondly, it was 77-76 with ten minutes left to go in the game. I'd say it was in question.

Lastly, this ain't Marc's first rodeo in the playoffs. I could even quote your trolling from earlier in the day telling someone "it's just one game." Look at his history. When we upset the Spurs and took the Thunder to 7, Marc was the cornerstone of that effort, averaging 16/10/2/3 against the Thunder and 14/12/2/2 against the Spurs, in only his second season in the league. Hell, last time we played the Clippers (only about a week or so ago) Marc posted 18 pts, 15 rbs, 7 asts, so it's not like the Clippers have an answer for him or something.

The reality is that Marc kept coming over to help on the double, which caused a lot of missed shots by LAC but a lot of open rebounds as well, and as a team, we did a poor job of capitalizing on their missed shots. The Grizz, Gasol, and Randolph won't let that happen throughout the series though.
 
Lol NoVoodoo you need to stop taking KingSpeeds bait. He won't change his "mind" on anything.
 
Rhal said:
Lol NoVoodoo you need to stop taking KingSpeeds bait. He won't change his "mind" on anything.
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Haha, yeah, I know... wasn't going to reply, but right after you watch your team lose a game one like that, it's easier to bite the bait.
 
You said "is there a better center in the league right now?" about a week or two ago and defended a yes answer to the question. The game was never in doubt. The series isn't in doubt. Clippers will win this series easily. What a sad organization if Marc Gasol is the most important player you've ever had. Ever hear of PAU Gasol? Or Bonzi Wells? This series is over. Clippers will win the series in 5, MAYBE 6 games. If it goes 7, it's because the Clips got bored and they'll rout the Grizz then in game 7 anyway. The most important player in the series is Chris Paul and he's far and away better than anyone else on the floor. Never should've let Mayo go. He was the heart of your team. You guys can't shoot.
 
NOVoodoo said:
Haha, yeah, I know... wasn't going to reply, but right after you watch your team lose a game one like that, it's easier to bite the bait.
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yea I know exactly how that is. I made some unflattering and in some cases very angry responses on here and other forums (might have been a little drunk) after pretty much every Blazers playoff loss in the Rockets/Suns/Mavericks series.
 
Rhal said:
yea I know exactly how that is. I made some unflattering and in some cases very angry responses on here and other forums (might have been a little drunk) after pretty much every Blazers playoff loss in the Rockets/Suns/Mavericks series.
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I hear ya, I'm just gonna go ahead an put KingSpeed on block until the Grizz are out of the playoffs/win it all.

The last thing you want as a diehard fan that's supported your team through ups and downs, watched an entire 82 game season, etc. is to get trolled on during the playoffs. If you post on this forum, you're probably more than a casual fan, so you probably put a lot of energy and time into watching your team all year, and the playoffs can be just as stressful as they can be rewarding. There's no need to add to that stress.

With that said, on a legitimate note about the series, I see a lot of "doom and gloom" prognoses from the media and fans, but I still think this is a series that's going to come down to the wire. The Clippers have a hard time containing Gasol offensively, and we just need to go to him more. Z-Bo needs to stop trying to make his match-up with Griffin into a wrestling match and just out-play the guy fundamentally, like he's done before. We'll fix the issues on the glass... I'm sure of that. We're the second best rebounding team in the league, and we've done well on the glass against LAC in the past. They got us tonight, but if history is any indication, it won't happen again.

Another factor in it all is that Tony Allen only played 17 minutes tonight, and the Clippers were able to post 112 on us. I don't have the numbers right now from our regular season schedule, but I think that's probably the most a team's scored on us this year, and it was largely coming from the perimeter, where Allen usually locks people down. I do know off the top of my head that we held teams to under 90 ppg on average this year, and Allen's probably the main reason for that. Gasol is the favorite for DPOY, but it should be Allen. Having him sit on the bench in foul trouble for 31 minutes is one of the more overlooked aspects of that game. Gasol's the defensive quarterback, but Allen's the guy who puts in the work and locks down the opposing team's best/hottest player, regardless of whether they're a pg/sg/sf. Having him out for significant stretches with foul trouble enabled LAC to go on some runs.
 
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NOVoodoo said:
I hear ya, I'm just gonna go ahead an put KingSpeed on block until the Grizz are out of the playoffs/win it all.

The last thing you want as a diehard fan that's supported your team through ups and downs, watched an entire 82 game season, etc. is to get trolled on during the playoffs. If you post on this forum, you're probably more than a casual fan, so you probably put a lot of energy and time into watching your team all year, and the playoffs can be just as stressful as they can be rewarding. There's no need to add to that stress.

With that said, on a legitimate note about the series, I see a lot of "doom and gloom" prognoses from the media and fans, but I still think this is a series that's going to come down to the wire. The Clippers have a hard time containing Gasol offensively, and we just need to go to him more. Z-Bo needs to stop trying to make his match-up with Griffin into a wrestling match and just out-play the guy fundamentally, like he's done before. We'll fix the issues on the glass... I'm sure of that. We're the second best rebounding team in the league, and we've done well on the glass against LAC in the past. They got us tonight, but if history is any indication, it won't happen again.

Another factor in it all is that Tony Allen only played 17 minutes tonight, and the Clippers were able to post 112 on us. I don't have the numbers right now from our regular season schedule, but I think that's probably the most a team's scored on us this year, and it was largely coming from the perimeter, where Allen usually locks people down. I do know off the top of my head that we held teams to under 90 ppg on average this year, and Allen's probably the main reason for that. Gasol is the favorite for DPOY, but it should be Allen. Having him sit on the bench in foul trouble for 31 minutes is one of the more overlooked apsects of that game.
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Its hard to explain the stress of important games and playoff match's to a spouse/anyone who doesn't get it at all. My Wife gives me a LOT of crap if I get upset at a loss or when the Blazers decide to play horrible. Actually had to stop drinking while watching games because it just escalated things lol.

I think the series will come down to game 7. There really is no home court advantage here, either club has proven they can win at the others arena and they both like the slow grind it out style. The clippers can run but when CP3 is in there he prefers the half-court game which I think favors Memphis. Its when the Clippers bench comes in and they start trying to constantly run that the dynamic of the game shifts for a little bit. Tonight's game just seemed like Memphis was out hustled all game long, not exactly sure why but it definitely was not the same Memphis team i'v watched a handful of times this year. I'm expecting more of a battle the rest of the series and if Randolph can morph into what he was in the 2010 playoffs then I expect Grizz to win in 7, if not then Gasol is going to have to take a lot more pressure on himself to score inside more.
 
I don't think NOVoodoo said that Gasol was the best center in the league. But I did. And I stand by that statement. Everybody has a bad game. Who's better? Dwight Howard? How many games did he stink up this season? Or maybe you'd pick Javale McGee because you want his dunks on our team?
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I don't think NOVoodoo said that Gasol was the best center in the league. But I did. And I stand by that statement. Everybody has a bad game. Who's better? Dwight Howard? How many games did he stink up this season? Or maybe you'd pick Javale McGee because you want his dunks on our team?
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How many games did Marc stink up? Dwight Howard is wayy better than Gasol. Check the numbers. Also, Brook Lopez is better than Marc too. Maybe the best center in the league.
 
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KingSpeed said:
How many games did Marc stink up? Dwight Howard is wayy better than Gasol. Check the numbers. Also, Brook Lopez is better than Marc too. Maybe the best center in the league.
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If you gave me the option of Marc Gasol or Dwight Howard on our team, I would choose Gasol. Howard is a fucking headcase.
 
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