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Tince said:
So this great Raptors strategy is holding GS to 15.3 fastbreak points per game in the finals. The Blazers gave up 16.0 fastbreak points per game in the WCF.
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How hard did they work for those points though? Were they all scored because of silly defensive mistakes?
 
Some are just making more excuses for Stotts. The Raptors have already won 2. I can see them win at least 1 more. And I hope it is Friday. Because their offense is diverse and their defense takes no prisoners.
The day I see Stotts do these things, I will believe in him.
 
BonesJones said:
How hard did they work for those points though? Were they all scored because of silly defensive mistakes?
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If there are metrics on that I would be happy to consider them. If we're going to start measuring the amount of effort given on fastbreak offense and defense, we should probably also include effort exerted throughout the entire game.

Off the top of my head, both Toronto and Portland have give up some easy fastbreak points to GS, but not all of them would I consider easy. Same could be said in my definition of "silly". Difficult to really compare these things since they would be defined very differently from person to person.
 
joeBlazers said:
Some are just making more excuses for Stotts. The Raptors have already won 2. I can see them win at least 1 more. And I hope it is Friday. Because their offense is diverse and their defense takes no prisoners.
The day I see Stotts do these things, I will believe in him.
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Joe, you do realize that Stotts just got a contract extension, right? You’re in for at least a few more years of bellyaching. Enjoy. I’m going to get my kicks watching the Blazers win.
 
Tince said:
Hahaha... Your opinion is certainly valid and I respect it. I'll take a real measure of fastbreak defense (15.3 ppg vs 16.0) versus undefinable opinions based on ones like or dislike of a certain play or coach.
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Sure, you'll use some statistic to ignore what you see in order to defend Stotts against the obvious.

Failing to pick up ball = Bad
Failing to communicate effectively to one or two guys that they need to pick up Draymond = Bad
Failing to properly hold team accountable for failing to pickup ball = Bad

Those things are bad. Those are inexcusable flaws in coaching and execution. Just imagine if they figured out how to pick up the damn ball.
 
e_blazer said:
Joe, you do realize that Stotts just got a contract extension, right? You’re in for at least a few more years of bellyaching. Enjoy. I’m going to get my kicks watching the Blazers win.
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Oh Stotts got extended?!?! What? Thanks for letting the forum know! Helpful!
 
e_blazer said:
LOL.

Jonesy, you seem to live for internet altercations. I lack the time or interest. Carry on.
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You seem to have the seriousness and pettiness down though! We're almost there.
 
For anyone - I hate when people feel the need to point out common knowledge and obviously known information just to be a smartass. You do that and you're gonna get that same treatment in return. Thats what Id expect.
 
Because Stotts got extended doesn't mean I believe he can beat Steve Kerr. No, he is not the worst coach in the NBA. Maybe one day his team will play to their potential or Oshay might bring in a player who can help change the philosophy of the team ... who knows?
But expecting that things change because of Stotts is not something I'm ready to believe in. Steve Kerr would have achieved a lot more with our team than Stotts has.
 
joeBlazers said:
Because Stotts got extended doesn't mean I believe he can beat Steve Kerr. No, he is not the worst coach in the NBA. Maybe one day his team will play to their potential or Oshay might bring in a player who can help change the philosophy of the team ... who knows?
But expecting that things change because of Stotts is not something I'm ready to believe in. Steve Kerr would have achieved a lot more with our team than Stotts has.
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Well Kerr probably would have beat the Pelicans, and maybe made shorter work of Denver? When healthy though GS has so much talent they're almost playing a different game than the rest of the league. So Portland wouldn't have beat them in past years, maybe won a few more games (it's hard not too), but when you say they would've accomplished a lot more? I don't agree with you there. They would've gotten embarrassed less, but really GS is minus 2 and a half all-stars and one MVP type guy and now their kind of on the Blazers level talent wise, the Blazers in theory have more depth, but Curry is better than Dame, Klay is different than CJ but about the same KD is better than Aminu and Harkless combined, Draymond is better than Aminu or Harkless, Cousins when healthy is also pretty good, though I'd probably give a slight edge to Nurkic.

edit: so my point is switch them up, and Stotts with GS's roster would beat Kerr with Portlands Roster.
 
dviss1 said:
That's not "every friggin post".

I linked a whole thread. Make sense.
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Who cares? Thread, post, whatever. No one pays that close of attention. Don’t take yourself so seriously.
 
So another thread taken over by a few people that want to bash Terry Stotts for seemingly anything and everything.
This thread is Titled the NBA Finals thread.
As i remember Terry Stotts is not coaching in the Finals this year.
With any luck maybe next year but only close this year.
How about them Raptors!
 
BonesJones said:
Sure, you'll use some statistic to ignore what you see in order to defend Stotts against the obvious.

Failing to pick up ball = Bad
Failing to communicate effectively to one or two guys that they need to pick up Draymond = Bad
Failing to properly hold team accountable for failing to pickup ball = Bad

Those things are bad. Those are inexcusable flaws in coaching and execution. Just imagine if they figured out how to pick up the damn ball.
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I agree failing to pick up the ball, communicate, or hold a team accountable are all negative things.

What I find curious is that Portland (or in your belief, Stotts on his own) did all three of these things horribly, but it only led to 0.7 more fastbreak points per game. This would tell me that these mistakes either happened far less than it is being assumed or they had very little to no impact.
 
So, do we genuinely believe that Durant could play in Game 4?

I personally don’t. Not after missing a month of basketball. I won’t be surprised if he has already played his final game for the Warriors.
 
Sarni said:
So, do we genuinely believe that Durant could play in Game 4?

I personally don’t. Not after missing a month of basketball.
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I'm a little surprised he's been out so long. If he doesn't return for Game 4, is he going to return at all? Crazy stuff.
 
Tince said:
I agree failing to pick up the ball, communicate, or hold a team accountable are all negative things.

What I find curious is that Portland (or in your belief, Stotts on his own) did all three of these things horribly, but it only led to 0.7 more fastbreak points per game. This would tell me that these mistakes either happened far less than it is being assumed or they had very little to no impact.
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I'm pretty sure it doesn't count as a fast break point after a made basket no matter how fast you score. So all the times Green took an outlet after we scored it wouldn't count towards that 16 points per game number.
 
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