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Tyrant of Ants said:
I joined the rest of you weaklings and got my first dose (Pfizer) yesterday. Once I get my 2nd dose, I guess I can be considered a total wuss by all the real badass anti-vaxxers.
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I think Pfizer is the best shot but the Moderna is virtually as good.
 
Minstrel said:
The reason your point is weak is because this vaccine rollout has essentially been "universal health care." It's going to be available to everyone, free of charge. So this isn't a point against universal health care, it's a point for it.

As for prescription drug prices being high because so much cost goes into R&D, that's certainly true. That has nothing to do with universal health care. Drug-makers could still pour tons of money into R&D and prescription drugs might still cost a lot, but it would be tax-payer funded, so anyone who needed prescription drugs could get them, whether or not they had money for them. You know, universal health care.
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I work in r&d for big pharma. A lot of what you say is true about the costs. And risks are immense. We spend billions on a compound that often doesnt meet clinical end points and gets scrapped. Another issue is the IP on a lot of these drugs only lasts a decade or so, so the window to make money is small before entering the generic market.

But the profit margins for blockbusters are also massive.
 
Lanny said:
I think Pfizer is the best shot but the Moderna is virtually as good.
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Theyre all essentially the same. The end points in their trials were different so the raw efficacy numbers might differ but they're all as effective. I know people who are waiting weeks to get the pfizer only but it makes no sense to me.

I got the jnj. Was sick as hell for a day. Came out afterwards perfectly fine
 
HAAK72 said:
White House says pause on Johnson & Johnson vaccine 'will not have a significant impact on our vaccination plan'

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/13/politics/white-house-johnson-and-johnson/index.html
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BigGameDamian said:
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"Johnson & Johnson vaccine makes up less than 5 percent of the recorded shots in arms in the United States to date," White House Covid-19 coordinator Jeff Zients said in a statement. "Based on actions taken by the President earlier this year, the United States has secured enough Pfizer and Moderna doses for 300 million Americans. Over the last few weeks, we have made available more than 25 million doses of Pfizer and Moderna each week, and in fact this week we will make available 28 million doses of these vaccines."
 
e_blazer said:
"Johnson & Johnson vaccine makes up less than 5 percent of the recorded shots in arms in the United States to date," White House Covid-19 coordinator Jeff Zients said in a statement. "Based on actions taken by the President earlier this year, the United States has secured enough Pfizer and Moderna doses for 300 million Americans. Over the last few weeks, we have made available more than 25 million doses of Pfizer and Moderna each week, and in fact this week we will make available 28 million doses of these vaccines."
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I believe J&J has been more widely used in black and latino communities more than anything.

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THE HCP said:
Shit....29 people died yesterday from being shot! Interesting, wonder if they’ll do something about that?
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wrong thread.

This is about the vaccines, separate issues. We need them to be as safe as possible.
 
Lanny said:
That's roughly the same percentage of blood clot disorders for the general population.
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I believe they are seeing strokes in young women who get the vacc but aren't reporting it. The blood clot is a red herring for something else.
 
THE HCP said:
Just mentioned it because why so concerned about 6 people?
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I'm not the one who made the decision to put a pause on it. This was made by the CDC, because they don't know what's happening.

Don't you trust science?

Why would you question the CDC?
 
Physical inactivity linked to more severe COVID-19 infection and death
Surpassed only by advanced age and organ transplant as a risk factor, large study shows

After taking account of potentially influential factors, such as race, age, and underlying medical conditions, patients with COVID-19 who were consistently physically inactive were more than twice as likely to be admitted to hospital as those who clocked up 150+ minutes of physical activity every week.

They were also 73% more likely to require intensive care, and 2.5 times more likely to die of the infection.
 
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