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Now I know why there were hippies.Peace, please!!!Oh and very good read... sad to see but good read.
 
Well, when a part of the Lebanese goverment kidnaps/kills a dozen of your troops peace goes out of the window.
 
I hope the US will stay out of this...
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wow - way to go on findin the most biased news site ever - if you want to be fair than you would read an arabic based newspaper as well.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ReppinTheD @ Jul 13 2006, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>wow - way to go on findin the most biased news site ever - if you want to be fair than you would read an arabic based newspaper as well.</div>Yeah BCB you really should.And Isreal will fall and Muslims will take over it and the Jews can go somewhere else and start pissing off some other religion..
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mixx @ Jul 14 2006, 08:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah BCB you really should.And Isreal will fall and Muslims will take over it and the Jews can go somewhere else and start pissing off some other religion..</div> Israel will not fall because the USA won't let it....Israel is too powerfull and just look at the way it's crushing Hezbollah....If Lebanon didn't attack and kidnap Israeli troops none of this would have happened...I hope Israel pounds Hezbollah into the ground.
 
Israel maybe small but they are extremely powerful and with the United States backing them they will not fall. You'll have to go through America and Israel to take them down, which is virtually impossible.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr Wolf @ Jul 15 2006, 02:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Israel maybe small but they are extremely powerful and with the United States backing them they will not fall. You'll have to go through America and Israel to take them down, which is virtually impossible.</div> Exactly. I realize that Israel isn't perfect...but I hope they turn Hezbollah into mulch.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr Wolf @ Jul 14 2006, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Israel maybe small but they are extremely powerful and with the United States backing them they will not fall. You'll have to go through America and Israel to take them down, which is virtually impossible.</div>Never know, look at the American Revolution (if you know what that is, Travis :nasty:), the colonists were officially terrorists. I do not spport Hezbolla or any terrorists in any form, just saying.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jul 14 2006, 07:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Israel will not fall because the USA won't let it....Israel is too powerfull and just look at the way it's crushing Hezbollah....If Lebanon didn't attack and kidnap Israeli troops none of this would have happened...I hope Israel pounds Hezbollah into the ground.</div>I have to agree but more war is never good I also hope the U.S. stays out of it.This war has been going on since the begginning of time.It's just pointless and ignorant.They kill eachother over religion and it really does not need to happen.I am on Isreal's side on this because this incidant would not have happend it Lebanon didn't attack and kidnap troops from Isreal.But in general I hate the whole concept of this fight but sadly it will most likely never end. :no1: :no1:
 
if your not an israeli or a jew i cannot understand why you would support israel. the horrrible sh*t they have done to arabs since they stole that territory. yall are actin as though the lebanese are doin this out of the blue. if nixon hadnt suplied israel with weapons and dosh back in the 70's they would thankfully be long gone. the israeli justification is that their attack is on the same level as the U.S invasion of afghanistan and the Russian in (excuse the spelling) chechnya which is a load of crap... a handful of soldiers were taken whoop-de-do. arab countrys should unite with europe and the rest of asia and say 'look israel, we will fuk u up, release them prisioners, drop the attitude and cry for genocidal sympathy and get a real identity, not one where your the dildo up americas arse or the piece of sh*t that has been the blame for almost every problem in history !and im not racist but it just so happens that israelis are actin like c*nts
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (wade23 @ Jul 14 2006, 09:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>if your not an israeli or a jew i cannot understand why you would support israel. the horrrible sh*t they have done to arabs since they stole that territory. yall are actin as though the lebanese are doin this out of the blue. if nixon hadnt suplied israel with weapons and dosh back in the 70's they would thankfully be long gone. the israeli justification is that their attack is on the same level as the U.S invasion of afghanistan and the Russian in (excuse the spelling) chechnya which is a load of crap... a handful of soldiers were taken whoop-de-do. arab countrys should unite with europe and the rest of asia and say 'look israel, we will fuk u up, release them prisioners, drop the attitude and cry for genocidal sympathy and get a real identity, not one where your the dildo up americas arse or the piece of sh*t that has been the blame for almost every problem in history !and im not racist but it just so happens that israelis are actin like c*nts</div>I'm guessing you are from Iran or Syria..?
 
Wade your an idiot. The horrible #### they have done? The arabs ####### kill themselves for fun. they teach there children that its worth killing themselves nad 40 other people just if the jew is also dead, The arabs took israels land and now they keeep bitching for nothing? why do you think god took new orleans from america? because bush made israel give away gaza so they would hav epeace and hows that turning out?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (king23james @ Jul 15 2006, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wade your an idiot. The horrible #### they have done? The arabs ####### kill themselves for fun. they teach there children that its worth killing themselves nad 40 other people just if the jew is also dead, The arabs took israels land and now they keeep bitching for nothing? why do you think god took new orleans from america? because bush made israel give away gaza so they would hav epeace and hows that turning out?</div>HAHA. It's more like king23jamez, you're the idiot. If you really knew what Israel does every day to Palestinian civilians than you would f*cking dumbfounded right now. Another thing - "arabs" are not all Muslim - you are an ignorant kid; it also goes vice versa, Muslim's are not all Arab - the biggest population of Muslim people ironically isn't in the Middle East, but in Asia. Also, Muslim's do not "kill them selves for fun" retard; Islam does not say go kill yourself to kill your enemies. The whole suicide bombing thing was a way for helpless Palestinians to retaliate. Here's their reasoning, although I don't condone it, I understand: "Israeli soldiers have just invaded my country, they invaded my house and totally demolished it with bombs, they just plowed up my farm that has been their for decades and generations - they have cut of any source of clean water, cut of electricity, and killed my father for being accused as a terrorist, they give me crap every day as I try to get to school or work, they stop me and check for my I.D., they give me curfews like im some kind of child, they do everything in their power to totally shut down my life; I have no weapons to retaliate, and throwing little rocks at soldiers surely won't stop them, so how else can I stop them, and maybe, somehow, I may be able to help by sacrificing myself for my family, and country. " And YES that stuff I described happens, I know because my freind's family faced that exact same situation. (their father didn't get killed, but many relatives did) They are in the US know, and are safe. LOL - here's where I actually laughed out loud - you say that the Arab's took Israel's land?? Are you retarded? After the holocaust, the Jews had no where to go - they were kicked out of thier country (poland, germany, and many more countries in Europe) and had no where to go; because the United States was the power who shut down Hitler's operations, they were responsible for the survivors well-being. They were refugees. So, the United States was like "I know, lets be f*cking geniuses and give a portion of this land called Palestine to the Jewish people - yea that will make them really happy." So the US arbitrarely made a Jewish state taht was later called Israel. Israel got stronger, and stronger, and STRONGER from the aid of the generous United States; they got so big that they deicded to kick out the natives and expand their state - they did this with many cruel wars against the incapacitated Palestinians, everytime they got some kind of help from other countries through the sea or air, Israel stopped the aid and took it for themselves. It's not like they need any more help - they get billions every year from the United States. Not only do they get help financially, but they get all the support they need - if Israel wants to go to other countries and destroy Lebanon, they have the UnitedStates to back them up. "Israel has the right to defend herself" - George W. Bush - that right there gives Israel a free check to do what ever they feel like doing to "disarm the terrorists." LOL. Why else do you think everyone hates the United States?? A big reason is for their unconditional support of Israel. Also - Bush did not force Israel to give gaza to the Palestinians, it was a domestic decision made by only the former PM Ariel Sharon - he made this move in efforts to make peace, well he's gone, he's been on a feeding tube for months now - everyone hated him for this move, and it shocked everyone because everyone knew Sharon as a war lord.There ya go - king23jamez - that little speech up there might have helped you - you really had no idea.
 
king jamez your a pathetic yet perfect candidate for a fu*kn fool award, open your eyes lad, read a book or something....
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I'm guessing you are from Iran or Syria..?</div>No. It says he's from Dunedin, New Zealand - and most likely he is white, and not a Muslim - so he can't be biased. Everyone in the world, besides the US of course, knows that Israel and the US are the tools of the world - Israel is a country 100x smaller than the US, yet it's like they can some how control the US - they can absolutely do anything they wish, and the US would be like "we support Israel" - 1,000 dead civilians later, "yes, we still support Israel, they have a right to defend themselves against innocent civilians." Israel constantly gets not only moral support, but also gets financial support by the Billions. Israel is like a mini US that uses the United States government as their little bi*ch vehicle for doing what they want to do to the world. Imagine if some place like Iran did something like this to a neighboring country - yea, the United States wouldnt let it happen. This was isn't just about the hand full of soldiers that were kidnapped, it's about something a lot bigger than that - Israel has an agenda much bigger than we suspect - I just don't know what that is yet.
 
Reppin, he could be from another country but just living in New Zealand. It's just like me. I live in Dallas/College Station, Texas, but I was born and raised in Virginia.But I do agree with you completely on the US being an tool in this. Really, it's pretty pathetic. At least we're getting our people out of there.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ReppinTheD @ Jul 16 2006, 11:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No. It says he's from Dunedin, New Zealand - and most likely he is white, and not a Muslim - so he can't be biased. Everyone in the world, besides the US of course, knows that Israel and the US are the tools of the world - Israel is a country 100x smaller than the US, yet it's like they can some how control the US - they can absolutely do anything they wish, and the US would be like "we support Israel" - 1,000 dead civilians later, "yes, we still support Israel, they have a right to defend themselves against innocent civilians." Israel constantly gets not only moral support, but also gets financial support by the Billions. Israel is like a mini US that uses the United States government as their little bi*ch vehicle for doing what they want to do to the world. Imagine if some place like Iran did something like this to a neighboring country - yea, the United States wouldnt let it happen. This was isn't just about the hand full of soldiers that were kidnapped, it's about something a lot bigger than that - Israel has an agenda much bigger than we suspect - I just don't know what that is yet.</div> Hezbollah killed 8 Israeli soldiers and kidnapped 4...Israel has a policy of 'no man left behind' and I support Israel's right to flatten those Hezbollah bastards. Hezbollah has also killed numerous Americans as well.Lebanon: Thirty US and other Western hostages kidnapped in Lebanon by Hezbollah. Some were killed, some died in captivity, and some were eventually released. Terry Anderson was held for 2,454 days.June 14, Beirut, Lebanon: TWA Flight 847 en route from Athens to Rome hijacked to Beirut by Hezbollah terrorists and held for 17 days. A U.S. Navy diver executed.June 25, Dhahran, Saudi Arabia: truck bomb exploded outside Khobar Towers military complex, killing 19 American servicemen and injuring hundreds of others. 13 Saudis and a Lebanese, all alleged members of Islamic militant group Hezbollah, were indicted on charges relating to the attack in June 2001.Oct. 23, Beirut, Lebanon: Shiite suicide bombers exploded truck near U.S. military barracks at Beirut airport, killing 241 Marines. Minutes later a second bomb killed 58 French paratroopers in their barracks in West Beirut. F*ck Hezbollah, I hope Israel kills them all.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>HAHA. It's more like king23jamez, you're the idiot. If you really knew what Israel does every day to Palestinian civilians than you would f*cking dumbfounded right now. Another thing - "arabs" are not all Muslim - you are an ignorant kid; it also goes vice versa, Muslim's are not all Arab - the biggest population of Muslim people ironically isn't in the Middle East, but in Asia. Also, Muslim's do not "kill them selves for fun" retard; Islam does not say go kill yourself to kill your enemies. The whole suicide bombing thing was a way for helpless Palestinians to retaliate. Here's their reasoning, although I don't condone it, I understand:"Israeli soldiers have just invaded my country, they invaded my house and totally demolished it with bombs, they just plowed up my farm that has been their for decades and generations - they have cut of any source of clean water, cut of electricity, and killed my father for being accused as a terrorist, they give me crap every day as I try to get to school or work, they stop me and check for my I.D., they give me curfews like im some kind of child, they do everything in their power to totally shut down my life; I have no weapons to retaliate, and throwing little rocks at soldiers surely won't stop them, so how else can I stop them, and maybe, somehow, I may be able to help by sacrificing myself for my family, and country. "And YES that stuff I described happens, I know because my freind's family faced that exact same situation. (their father didn't get killed, but many relatives did) They are in the US know, and are safe.LOL - here's where I actually laughed out loud - you say that the Arab's took Israel's land?? Are you retarded? After the holocaust, the Jews had no where to go - they were kicked out of thier country (poland, germany, and many more countries in Europe) and had no where to go; because the United States was the power who shut down Hitler's operations, they were responsible for the survivors well-being. They were refugees. So, the United States was like "I know, lets be f*cking geniuses and give a portion of this land called Palestine to the Jewish people - yea that will make them really happy." So the US arbitrarely made a Jewish state taht was later called Israel. Israel got stronger, and stronger, and STRONGER from the aid of the generous United States; they got so big that they deicded to kick out the natives and expand their state - they did this with many cruel wars against the incapacitated Palestinians, everytime they got some kind of help from other countries through the sea or air, Israel stopped the aid and took it for themselves. It's not like they need any more help - they get billions every year from the United States. Not only do they get help financially, but they get all the support they need - if Israel wants to go to other countries and destroy Lebanon, they have the UnitedStates to back them up. "Israel has the right to defend herself" - George W. Bush - that right there gives Israel a free check to do what ever they feel like doing to "disarm the terrorists." LOL. Why else do you think everyone hates the United States?? A big reason is for their unconditional support of Israel.</div>.Dude K23j is completely right. Did her ever say arabs were all muslums? Also they dont kill themselves for fun they do it to kill israel out of pure hate for doing nothign. This may sound gay but if you read in your case the bible Abraham was offered part of israel for free and he said no i want to buy it so everyone one knows its mine and for the future jews in israel. And even if israel "took there land" is that a good reason to hate some one for life even thugh you dont even no em? Couldnt they negotiate? Do they have to go bombing everywhere and start a war? Ariel Sharon is dieing right now and he was the best prime minister Israel ever had. And Bush DID suggest it thats where the idea came from. Get it in your head. Israel has done nothing EVER. Why did hitler kill 6 million jews give me 1 good reason please just 1
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lior The Laker Fan @ Jul 16 2006, 09:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>.Dude K23j is completely right. Did her ever say arabs were all muslums? Also they dont kill themselves for fun they do it to kill israel out of pure hate for doing nothign. This may sound gay but if you read in your case the bible Abraham was offered part of israel for free and he said no i want to buy it so everyone one knows its mine and for the future jews in israel. And even if israel "took there land" is that a good reason to hate some one for life even thugh you dont even no em? Couldnt they negotiate? Do they have to go bombing everywhere and start a war? Ariel Sharon is dieing right now and he was the best prime minister Israel ever had. And Bush DID suggest it thats where the idea came from. Get it in your head. Israel has done nothing EVER. Why did hitler kill 6 million jews give me 1 good reason please just 1</div>Obviously, you did not read the full content of my post - probably because you were too lazy; it included a part in the middle of the post that described some of the conditions everyday Palestinians have to go through. I did not make this up either - because one of my best friends for a couple years now has told me everything that his people went through. The Palestinians don't simply kill Israeli's out of hate or for "nothing;" this is totally false, and would be insulting to a Palestinian. They do these "suicide missions" because they honestly don't have anything better to fight with. There is a huge history of horrible voilence on both sides, but the Israeli's have truely overdone it. What would yo u expect if you have one country who has the number 3 ranked Army in the world, carries the most up-to-date missles, tanks, and all different kinds of artillary, a country who is backed by the world power known as the United States, and also recieves Billions in aid from the United States EVERY YEAR. The Palestinians, well, they have home made rockets, home made bombs, themsleves, and their never dying spirit. Also, it seems like you have been kept from the truth of what really happens in Palestine/Israel. I have a satellite television set that my parents ordered - it includes channels from the Middle East - they do many documentaries about this issue, and seriously, it is the most painful thing to watch...Also this whole thing is also fueled by Religion; a big motivator for both sides is to protect what is said in their holy book. In the To'rah it claims that a shrine was built in the city of Jeruselum which is coincidentally under the building that Muslims hold VERY dearly - "Masjid Al - Aksa." There have been many failed efforts on the Israeli's side to destroy this shrine of the Muslims in order to ressurect what is left of the Jewish people's shrine - of course this conflicts very much with both sides. In fact they have tried to burn it, they have dug canals underneath it and tried to make it collapse, and many more things. Also their have been many attacks where Jewish terrorists go into Mosques and have killed many people during prayer! So nonetheless, there is plenty of reason to be doing what the Palestinians are doing - obviously I haven't told you a half of a percent of what there is to be told - there have been so many things from the first Intifada, the second Intifada, and many more small battles that have shook the Middle East.
 
Wow theres a war goin on right. Lets say what that guy said is ture israel has been giving him a hard time etc. So you think its smart to go to israel kill yourself among with 40 innocent people and have parents cousins relatives sons scared to death on weathere his mom or dad or cousin or son is ok and then they find out your dead. Is it really worth doing? This is my opinion i tottaly respect your prespective im not trying to get in an argument alright? Can we agree that this ddebate is just me and you showing our point of view no fights?
 
Yea - Of course, I never viewed this as a fight - I like you, you're a cool guy, and I respect people who can show their opinions.and yea, I obivouslly can see where you're coming from, and the whole thing is wrong because they are attacking totally innocent people a lot of the time. I know it's wrong, and I don't like it at all, but seriously you can't defend what Israel is doing either, because when you compare both side by side - Israel is 10x folds worse.and yes - I can agree to disagree.
 
Alright but just think about it future wise. This is off topic and i wanted to ask it.Can anyone come up with a reason hitler killed so much jews
 
I can obviously come up with a reason - which was Hitler's reason, but I obviously, and unconditionally do not believe in anything Hitler did - there was no reason for it, it was genocide. Also, if you didn't know this, it wasn't only Jewish people that Hitler killed - anyone who wasn't defined as Aryan was killed and believed to be "dirty" or impure. So that means he killed anyone who wasn't white, had blonde hair, and had blue eyes - yes, that is obviously the mentality of a crazed man.
 
I was just watching the News for like 30 minutes..Lol..Israel is fighting back well..First of all its not israels fault in the Beggining..What have they did wrong..They have givin them Gaza and All these places and now the arabs are takin advantage of that and go there and kidnappin people..And the Lebonon people are just murdereers wow!Not all of them but most...U cant blame Israel..Theres no Reason to..Even if there killin some people that are also in innocent in Lebonan thats not Israels problem..There just Defending themselves..also the innocent people in Lebonan shouldnt be Living with and accepting the murderers and bad people..
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jul 16 2006, 08:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hezbollah killed 8 Israeli soldiers and kidnapped 4...Israel has a policy of 'no man left behind' and I support Israel's right to flatten those Hezbollah bastards. Hezbollah has also killed numerous Americans as well.Lebanon: Thirty US and other Western hostages kidnapped in Lebanon by Hezbollah. Some were killed, some died in captivity, and some were eventually released. Terry Anderson was held for 2,454 days.June 14, Beirut, Lebanon: TWA Flight 847 en route from Athens to Rome hijacked to Beirut by Hezbollah terrorists and held for 17 days. A U.S. Navy diver executed.June 25, Dhahran, Saudi Arabia: truck bomb exploded outside Khobar Towers military complex, killing 19 American servicemen and injuring hundreds of others. 13 Saudis and a Lebanese, all alleged members of Islamic militant group Hezbollah, were indicted on charges relating to the attack in June 2001.Oct. 23, Beirut, Lebanon: Shiite suicide bombers exploded truck near U.S. military barracks at Beirut airport, killing 241 Marines. Minutes later a second bomb killed 58 French paratroopers in their barracks in West Beirut. F*ck Hezbollah, I hope Israel kills them all.</div>Dude i think the same!!!!!And thos Lebonans better not touch the Americans Either!Israel!!<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ReppinTheD @ Jul 16 2006, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I can obviously come up with a reason - which was Hitler's reason, but I obviously, and unconditionally do not believe in anything Hitler did - there was no reason for it, it was genocide. Also, if you didn't know this, it wasn't only Jewish people that Hitler killed - anyone who wasn't defined as Aryan was killed and believed to be "dirty" or impure. So that means he killed anyone who wasn't white, had blonde hair, and had blue eyes - yes, that is obviously the mentality of a crazed man.</div> I also Agree with that..hitler was a f*cking fadget!Killed Jews and others for no reason!
 
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