The Official Rock vs. Rap Thread

[nba dogmatist]

Which is better? I think you know my take, but I'll get it on this later.

 

[TSpark]

Old-School Hip Hop, definitely.New-school? HELL NO.

 

[Rok]

I prefer Rock over Rap but I don't think you can say one is better then the other. It's just my preference.

 

[7Goat]

This could go on forever... oh boy.I'm going to say rock is better although I do like both. Rap is entertaining, but really it doesn't take much skill. You talk over a beat. Rock on the other hand is much more deep as far as topics and harder to comprehend musically. Rap to me is very one-dimentional. And today's rap has really gotten bad; I mean most of the topics are just sex, clubs, bitches, etc.Also this is why Rock is better (I brought this up on the other thread but I'm putting it back up so everyone knows):

OVER!

 

[Memphology]

I would take rap, but this thread really wont lead anywhere, what music you like is strictly opinion.

 

[nba dogmatist]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Oct 22 2006, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I prefer Rock over Rap but I don't think you can say one is better then the other. It's just my preference.</div>haha that's kind of the point. the discussion will go on forever.

 

[TSpark]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Oct 22 2006, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I would take rap, but this thread really wont lead anywhere, what music you like is strictly opinion.</div>True, but the post right above yours is going to set some flares soon with the quote "rap doesn't take much skill," because I already sense someone getting ready to object to that statement and a debate will begin of that.

 

[Memphology]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ELiiiTE @ Oct 22 2006, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This could go on forever... oh boy.I'm going to say rock is better although I do like both. Rap is entertaining, but really it doesn't take much skill. You talk over a beat. Rock on the other hand is much more deep as far as topics and harder to comprehend musically. Rap to me is very one-dimentional. And today's rap has really gotten bad; I mean most of the topics are just sex, clubs, bitches, etc.</div>HELL NO!!! Thats stupid pop-rap, if you listen to real authentic rap (which usually never plays on MTV or anything)you will defiently had a different opinion. And the post before that, new rap is just as good as old rap. Believe me, there is no rock song that is better than "Brandas got a Baby" by 2pac. Thats poetry, lyricly kills rock songs. I agree, most of the rap you hear on TV like MTV and BET is pure crap, but just go and pickup a underground CD by Common, SunNY or even some old school 36 mafia and 8Ball & MJG. You will have a different opinion.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TSpark @ Oct 22 2006, 09:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>True, but the post right above yours is going to set some flares soon with the quote "rap doesn't take much skill," because I already sense someone getting ready to object to that statement and a debate will begin of that.</div>yep, I had to say something about that

 

[nba dogmatist]

I'll also take Rock. It takes much more skill (I'm not saying rap doesn't take skill, but it takes being able to rhyme, the rest beat is basically generated by a computer. whereas in rock it is a combination of real instruments, all of which is written by the band. half of rap songs take a melody of another song, and some rappers don't even write their own material. sad), and they actually have something to talk about. They're not just talking about a.) sex b.) getting drunk/high or c.) how much money they have, unlike rap. And I hate how all rappers try to be so gangster. I remember seeing on mtv news a long time ago that a rapper got arrested for holding a gas station up. he got $200. what a moron.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ELiiiTE @ Oct 22 2006, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This could go on forever... oh boy.I'm going to say rock is better although I do like both. Rap is entertaining, but really it doesn't take much skill. You talk over a beat. Rock on the other hand is much more deep as far as topics and harder to comprehend musically. Rap to me is very one-dimentional. And today's rap has really gotten bad; I mean most of the topics are just sex, clubs, bitches, etc.Also this is why Rock is better (I brought this up on the other thread but I'm putting it back up so everyone knows):

OVER!</div>lmao that thing is f'n hilarious!! :HAHAHA: :HAHAHA:

 

[Memphology]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Oct 22 2006, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'll also take Rock. It takes much more skill, and they actually have something to talk about. They're not just talking about a.) sex b.) getting drunk/high or c.) how much money they have, unlike rap. And I hate how all rappers try to be so gangster. I remember seeing on mtv news a long time ago that a rapper got arrested for holding a gas station up. he got $200. what a moron.</div>See, MTV..just go and pickup some underground stuff, till then you havent heard rap...real rap

 

[7Goat]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Oct 22 2006, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>HELL NO!!! Thats stupid pop-rap, if you listen to real authentic rap (which usually never plays on MTV or anything)you will defiently had a different opinion. And the post before that, new rap is just as good as old rap. Believe me, there is no rock song that is better than "Brandas got a Baby" by 2pac. Thats poetry, lyricly kills rock songs. I agree, most of the rap you hear on TV like MTV and BET is pure crap, but just go and pickup a underground CD by Common, SunNY or even some old school 36 mafia and 8Ball & MJG. You will have a different opinion.</div>Actually yes I have to find flaw in that, because poetry and flow have a lot to do with it. That's probably the reason I like rap, because of the rhymes and well thought out verses of guys like 2Pac.And I don't even look at that MTV crap, I'm not basing it on that. I just think rock is MUCH deeper.

 

[LAZY]

Rock

 

[nba dogmatist]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Oct 22 2006, 09:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>See, MTV..just go and pickup some underground stuff, till then you havent heard rap...real rap</div>like I said, it was a long time ago. and it was mtv news. they were just reporting that some rpaper was arrested. I never watch tv nowadays. I admit, I don't know of a whole lot of underground rappers, but the one's that I've heard, it's just not my sound. I'm not impressed by how much money a person has or how many people they've killed.

 

[jhowardfan]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Oct 22 2006, 09:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>See, MTV..just go and pickup some underground stuff, till then you havent heard rap...real rap</div>true, commercial rap can be some of the most idiotic bullsh** you can hear. It takes a little digging and discovering to find "real" rap. Real rap and commercial rap is very different and if you listen to the real stuff you will find that out.

 

[Memphology]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ELiiiTE @ Oct 22 2006, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Actually yes I have to find flaw in that, because poetry and flow have a lot to do with it. That's probably the reason I like rap, because of the rhymes and well thought out verses of guys like 2Pac.And I don't even look at that MTV crap, I'm not basing it on that. I just think rock is MUCH deeper.</div>Personaly I cant understand what they are saying in rock, and when I do understand the lyrics dont make much sense to me, I guess its really what region/lifestyle you have. I just relate to rap more than rock. I guess thats why I htink its better, but like I said earlier people have different opinions, just dont bad mouth rap because you havent heard REAL hip-hop.

 

[TSpark]

Might as well sticky this baby! Or what's the use? It's going to stay at the top for a while huh?

 

[Memphology]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jhowardfan @ Oct 22 2006, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>true, commercial rap can be some of the most idiotic bullsh** you can hear. It takes a little digging and discovering to find "real" rap. Real rap and commercial rap is very different and if you listen to the real stuff you will find that out.</div>Yeah, its easier if you live in a big city, but I know somebody who moved to Florida and he couldnt find Yo Gotti or Al Kapone(underground rap)there, so its probably hard to find it for some of yall.

 

[7Goat]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Oct 22 2006, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Personaly I cant understand what they are saying in rock, and when I do understand the lyrics dont make much sense to me, I guess its really what region/lifestyle you have. I just relate to rap more than rock. I guess thats why I htink its better, but like I said earlier people have different opinions, just dont bad mouth rap because you havent heard REAL hip-hop.</div>I have, believe me. I don't even listen to today's stuff.And I'm not badmouthing rap, I'm just putting it in comparison to rock n roll, because I believe it's better

 

[Memphology]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ELiiiTE @ Oct 22 2006, 09:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I have, believe me. I don't even listen to today's stuff.And I'm not badmouthing rap, I'm just putting it in comparison to rock n roll, because I believe it's better</div>that wasnt really directed to you, but what rap do you listen to when you do?

 

[nba dogmatist]

I like music that makes you think, so if a band puts alot of allusions/symbols in their songs, I tend to like those bands.

 

[Memphology]

Yeah, do you listen to 2pac? His songs make me think alot, if you dont have one you should pick up one of his Greatest Hits.

 

[mavsfan1000]

I pick rock because you actually have to learn instruments to play and I like solos and skilled guitarists along with people who can actually sing.

 

[7Goat]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Oct 22 2006, 09:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>that wasnt really directed to you, but what rap do you listen to when you do?</div>Mostly old school, can't really list all I've heard my passionate rap friends exposed me to some real rap.

 

[nba dogmatist]

I listen to a little bit of old school rap, but I can't listen to it a ton, because it curses a crap load, and my parents hate it.but either way, I feel that my music is much, mcuh better anyways.