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Stern took a hit out on this guy???

The lead negotiators for the two sides met Friday in New York City, where Silver spoke with Gary Hall, the lead attorney at the players' association. Hall died unexpectedly on Sunday at 67.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
If Portland isn't allowed to get rid of Roy's boat anchor of a contract, we're pretty much three shades of fucked in 2013 under that CBA.
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We are still in a much better situation that tons of other teams, true we arn't the Pacrers with boatloads of cap space and no horrible contracts but I don't see us being "fucked" at all if theres a hard cap. Teams like the Lakers, Magic, Dallas, Miami, Memphis, Atlanta are far far worse. We have one max contract, plus basically two if you combine LaMarcus and Wes. That's less salary than most playoff teams.
 
Is it me or isn't this really bad? If the players are filing shit in court BEFORE the lockout has even gone into effect! Probably pisses the owners off even before they sit down to negotiate!
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?page=bryant/110428

According to Forbes, NBA team values are down from their previous high the past few years, and market stability is where the league appears most vulnerable. The magazine estimated earlier this year that the average NBA franchise is worth $369 million, though 17 franchises lost money in 2009-10, the most since the 1999 lockout.

Three NBA franchises (Vancouver, Charlotte and Seattle) have relocated recently, and a fourth -- the already-relocated New Orleans Hornets -- is now being run by the league. A fifth, the Sacramento Kings, is trying to move to Anaheim and what appears to be an already-saturated market. The Los Angeles area has two teams of its own, one of which is the most powerful club in the league, the Lakers.

Franchises in Detroit and Minnesota have lost value, and the Cleveland Cavaliers lost their marquee relevance when ex-pat son LeBron James took his star power to Miami.
 
I forgot about the NBA running the Hornets! What a mess that must be.
 
HCP said:
Another opinion on latest talks..........

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=6637147
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I'm taking this as a signal that the NBA's potential lockout is looking a lot better than the NFL. Atleast the way the are portraying publicly, it seems as though both sides are continuing to talk rather than completely shutting down.

Hopefully your pimp hand is strong and you've got a nice stable of women HCP if there is a lockout! :D
 
Zach Lowe of SI.com reports that the ongoing labor negotiations between NBA owners and the Players Association taking place in Dallas include talks regarding a strengthened version of the Amnesty Clause.
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Two sides both like amnesty clause, and would apply to cap AND tax. [Two sides] have discussed a recurring amnesty style-clause teams could use every X years.
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In theory, this type of proposal would allow the Blazers to completely wipe the contract of guard Brandon Roy from their books if they so desired.
For more on the Amnesty Clause, click here.


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I think if they just got rid of the MLE, changed bird rights to only be available after 5 years with the same team, don't allow bird rights to transfer in trades, and made contracts half guaranteed the current system could stay intact fine the way it is. Veteran players could be eligible for no-trade clauses.

I'd like to see bird rights because I think you should be able to keep a player you're franchise and fans have appreciated for multiple years. But they should not transfer in a trade. Reward guys for staying with a team long-term. Half guaranteed contracts still would guarantee enormous amounts to players but give the team a bit of flexibility with overpriced contracts.
 
They are talking which is good, but I'll be shocked if at least half the season isn't wiped out due to this thing. Unlike the NFL, the NBA owners and players have some truly intractable (seemingly any way?) differences.
 
HCP brings up a great point. Sure the deal is between the owners and the players, but it's the folks making in the thousands rather than millions that are really getting hurt. All the folks at Blazer Broadcasting, the people that work at the Rose Garden, the vendors to the team, etc. Those people don't have a seat at the table, yet have skin in the game.
 
yeah that seems like good news hcp, any concession from either side shows progress
 
Just glad to see both sides at least talking
 
Hopefully they can agree to either have a Hardcap or a better implemented soft cap (like only being able to go over the cap to resign players you have drafted) by Tuesday, or at least have enough progress to extend the deadline. If we the deadline gets extended I think that'll mean there close.
 
losing the sign & trade would keep alot of salaries down too, if they really want to leave, they would have to take alot less money, thereby taking alot of their leverage away in negotiations with their own team
 
I think Sheridan nailed it in his column. The Sternmeister is going to twist the rack a little tighter after today. This sucker is headed for a lockout.

Any guesses as to when/if there will be games played next season? I'd go with January at the earliest.
 
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Players have meeting scheduled for Thursday, and will respond to league's proposal on Friday in another league-union meeting.
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WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Stern: NBA proposed a targeted $62 million cap. As far as league's best offer? "It's all out there." Wouldn't call it "final" though.
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WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Stern says new deal would guarantee players $2 billion in annual salaries over 10 year deal. "Our best shot .." to get a deal done.
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WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Stern: "We've modified proposal to a flex cap, where some teams can go above it, some can go below it..."
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WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
NBPA will continue to resist hard salary cap, and impossible to imagine owners backing down on it prior to June 30th deadline.
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WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
At end of labor meeting, still "big gaps" one official says between two sides. Meeting again on Friday. Some movement, civil meeting.
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