The Official S2 NBA Lockout Thread! (1 Viewer)

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The "Pumpkin Patch?" At first I thought that was a term of endearment for your little woman. Then I saw our good friend standing behind you in your avatar, all dressed in pumpkin....

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Looking at his avatar, you can tell they're not wearing pants.
 
Happy Halloween Vatos Locos!
 

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Broussard........

Owners back to offering 49-51 band of BRI, where players get at least 49% & max of 51% based on league revenue, sources say.....
 
Players rejected 49-51 band 2 weeks ago & countered w/51-53 band...owners also opening to $5 mill midlevel, tho no agreement reached....
 
So owners are moving and offering different things, and players standing firm. Who is supposedly negotiating in bad faith again?
 
Bill Simmons lashing out. http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7123705/arms-nhl

Where's the big-picture leadership here? What's the right number of franchises? Where should those franchises play? What's worse, losing three franchises or losing an entire season of basketball? What's really important here? I don't trust the players' side to make the right choices, because they are saddled with limited intellectual capital. (Sorry, it's true.) The owners' side can't say the same; they should be ashamed. Same for the agents. And collectively, they should all be mortified that a 16-hour negotiating session, this late in the game, was cause for any celebration or optimism. In my mind, it was more of a cry for help.

Meanwhile, the World Series starts tonight in St. Louis. Pro football and college football are in full swing. We're less than two weeks away from November sweeps. The holidays are looming. If the NBA owners and players think fans will sit around moping without basketball, they're sorely mistaken. Only the NFL has the luxury of saying, "If we disappeared, our fans would freak out until we came back." Sorry, NBA, we can always find other things to do in November and December. And eventually, every month after that. Fans adapt. Habits change. People like me say, "Screw it, I'll give hockey a real chance." Suddenly, you're not looking at the same landscape anymore. That's the danger of what the NBA inflected on itself, that's what made these past few months so indefensible, and that's why hearing on SportsCenter about last night's "marathon" negotiating session made me want to wave both middle fingers at my TV.
 
Simmons wouldn't be so quick to talk about contraction if the Celtics were involved
 
Why the hell would the Celtics be involved?

It would be teams that are not drawing any revenue to the NBA like CHA, NOH, MIN, etc.
 
Why the hell would the Celtics be involved?

It would be teams that are not drawing any revenue to the NBA like CHA, NOH, MIN, etc.



It wouldn't be the Celtics. That's my point. Simmons is a huge Celtics fan, but if he were say a huge fan of the Hornets instead, he wouldn't be so quick to throw the term contraction around
 
Source: Cuban Helps Sides Move on BRI

In fact, a source briefed on the talks told NBA.com’s David Aldridge that there won’t be a problem on the split. Dallas owner Mark Cuban reportedly was helpful in moving the owners and the players — each of whom had wanted 53 percent of BRI (the old split favored the players 57/43) — toward the middle.
 
Hopefully it was a simple 51-53 split. The players start at 51 with the ability to make 53 depending on revenue.

The cap issue is what the biggest issue is according to a lot of the media there. Players are totally against any sort of hard cap, and owners trying to get something like one
 
Woj keeps on trashing the high caliber players who are out getting paid from other sources during the lockout, while still clamoring for all the mid and low paid players to hold strong.

What he is apparently forgetting is that the reason why the owners are so adamant about their stance is because the mid-low tier players are getting way overpaid.
 
Woj keeps on trashing the high caliber players who are out getting paid from other sources during the lockout, while still clamoring for all the mid and low paid players to hold strong.

What he is apparently forgetting is that the reason why the owners are so adamant about their stance is because the mid-low tier players are getting way overpaid.



Woj is right. The high dollar players are doing nothing to help the union by these games they have planned
 
It wouldn't be the Celtics. That's my point. Simmons is a huge Celtics fan, but if he were say a huge fan of the Hornets instead, he wouldn't be so quick to throw the term contraction around

It doesn't really invalidate the point though does it?
 
HowardBeckNYT......


It's a 2-hotel day on the NBA stakeout beat. First up, Board of Governors meeting, where Stern is expected to speak soon. Then, mediation.
 
BOG meeting is adjourning. About to hear from Commissioner Stern. CBA talks with union and mediator George Cohen should start in an hour.
 
NBA spokesman said that commish David Stern is sick today and wasn't at the Board of Governors meeting this AM.
 
Adam Silver says David Stern has the flu & will most likely not be at the bargaining table w/the union this afternoon.
 
Silver says "in no way have the revenue sharing discussions held up collective bargaining."
 
NBA Deputy Commissioner Adam Silver says he can't talk specifically about negotiations, but "owners want to play."
 
Silver: revenue sharing plan should be around $150M annually, almost tripling current $50-60M.
 
Adam Silver on Bryant Gumbel's rant on his boss David Stern: "I thought it was outrageous."
 
Stern will participate in meeting, though, whether through speakerphone or blackberry or something. We don't know for sure how yet
 
For clarity, a "band" is not a rev split. It is a range. 49-51 band means players get minimum of 49% BRI, max of 51 depending on revenue...
 
Adam Silver: "Whether or not an 82-game schedule is still possible is unclear to me."
 
HowardBeckNYT: Stern's absence should not be considered setback for talks. Silver is effectively lead negotiator anyway. Stern checking in via phone/email
 
Sheridan.....


Is an 82-game NBA schedule still possible? NBA deputy boss Adam Silver says it's "unclear." He did not say "No."
 

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