The Official S2 NBA Lockout Thread!

[THE HCP]

WojYahooNBA.....


Y! Sources: The owners and players are closing in on agreement on new mid-level exception.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_nba_labor_talks_101911

 

[THE HCP]

Go Ducks!

UO's record when Darron Thomas starts at QB is 17-2 (.895). Harrington was 25-3 (.893), Masoli 16-6 (.728), Dixon 18-7 (.720)

 

[THE HCP]

Details Of Amnesty Clause Still In Flux, Successful Compromise Expected



The NBA is likely to include an amnesty clause into their new collective bargaining agreement.

Teams will have approximately 75 percent of the money removed from their salary cap over the length of the deal and his new team will only have 25 percent of his annual salar moving forward.

Players who are released under this clause will still receive the full amount of money they are owed.

But sources say the biggest hurdle is how long teams will have to pay the player his remaining balance.

The teams want the bought-out player to be paid over a longer period of time, while the union seeks the opposite.

Sources believe this is an area where a compromise can be reached.

Via Adrian Wojnarowski/Yahoo! Sports


Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wireta..._Successful_Compromise_Expected#ixzz1bMA4jrKK

 

[THE HCP]

Glen Taylor re-elected as head of NBA Board of Governors

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

The headline on ESPN was that Stern was homesick and left negotiations. Clicked the link, expecting to hear how Stern really missed his binky, only to find out he went home sick and was still texting Silver.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

Glen Taylor re-elected as head of NBA Board of Governors

The guy responsible for hiring Kahn and the illegal Joe Smith contract is the most responsible of the group. Yep, kiss your season goodbye.

 

[The Sebastian Express]

The teams want the bought-out player to be paid over a longer period of time, while the union seeks the opposite.

I find this curious, I would think the union would want over a longer period of time. This will allow an injured/underachieving (and thus probably older and past his prime) player to gain monetary compensation long past his playing days when he may be lacking other sources of high-income.

 

[THE HCP]

The headline on ESPN was that Stern was homesick and left negotiations. Clicked the link, expecting to hear how Stern really missed his binky, only to find out he went home sick and was still texting Silver.

I thought the same thing when I saw that!

 

[THE HCP]

I find this curious, I would think the union would want over a longer period of time. This will allow an injured/underachieving (and thus probably older and past his prime) player to gain monetary compensation long past his playing days when he may be lacking other sources of high-income.

If this happens, do you think they dare use it on Brandon? I remember they couldn't use it fast enough on Derek Anderson last time!

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

They should name that clause after Rashard Lewis.

I really like what I'm seeing! They're making progress instead of threats, via the media.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

I find this curious, I would think the union would want over a longer period of time. This will allow an injured/underachieving (and thus probably older and past his prime) player to gain monetary compensation long past his playing days when he may be lacking other sources of high-income.

It is taking less money, just like a lottery payout.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

If this happens, do you think they dare use it on Brandon? I remember they couldn't use it fast enough on Derek Anderson last time!

I love Brandon and do not want to see him in another uniform, but meniscus does not grow back. I just hope they allow a player to resign with the team that uses this exception.

 

[THE HCP]

They should name that clause after Rashard Lewis.

I really like what I'm seeing! They're making progress instead of threats, via the media.

Don't jinx it Fez!!!!!!

 

[Mediocre Man]

The Blazers don't have the guts or the smarts to use it on Brandon Roy

 

[MickZagger]

The Blazers don't have the guts or the smarts to use it on Brandon Roy

You're right, those Blazers, they're such gut-less bastards!! You tell em!

 

[THE HCP]

Zags........ where you going to work games again this season?

 

[MickZagger]

Zags........ where you going to work games again this season?

That job was just supplemental income. I did it mainly to be at the arena and experience everything. I started when I was 18 and never got a raise, I was making peanuts I tell ya.

Saw some really cool shit, though. Beating people up from time to time was fun, too.

 

[The Sebastian Express]

If this happens, do you think they dare use it on Brandon? I remember they couldn't use it fast enough on Derek Anderson last time!

I think they'd have to, looking at the bottom line Brandon makes 16.4 million in the 2012-2013 season. To take even 75% of that off the salary cap would make us available to sign another piece to team with LaMarcus for a legitimate attempt at a run during his prime (and since I am an eternal optimist also Greg's if he resigns).

 

[Pinwheel1]

Details Of Amnesty Clause Still In Flux, Successful Compromise Expected



The NBA is likely to include an amnesty clause into their new collective bargaining agreement.

Teams will have approximately 75 percent of the money removed from their salary cap over the length of the deal and his new team will only have 25 percent of his annual salar moving forward.

Players who are released under this clause will still receive the full amount of money they are owed.

But sources say the biggest hurdle is how long teams will have to pay the player his remaining balance.

The teams want the bought-out player to be paid over a longer period of time, while the union seeks the opposite.

Sources believe this is an area where a compromise can be reached.

Via Adrian Wojnarowski/Yahoo! Sports


Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wireta..._Successful_Compromise_Expected#ixzz1bMA4jrKK

I still think this clause is idiotic. If you are paying for the player you should be able to keep him. I think they should knock off 75% of one contract per team PERIOD. But if you have to pay him you should be able to play him.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

If this happens, do you think they dare use it on Brandon? I remember they couldn't use it fast enough on Derek Anderson last time!

It'd be stupid if they didn't. He's a max-cat who's a shell. His deterioration was shockingly rapid. He'll understand the move and will still get paid. No harm done IMO.

 

[THE HCP]

HowardBeckNYT: How much help will small-mkt NBA teams get from revenue sharing? As much as $15 mil per season, says source:

 

[THE HCP]

KBergCBS.........


For those asking, #NBA mediation still ongoing, which means they've been at it for four hours.

 

[e_blazer]

I still think this clause is idiotic. If you are paying for the player you should be able to keep him. I think they should knock off 75% of one contract per team PERIOD. But if you have to pay him you should be able to play him.

Agreed. There's going to be a lot of pressure on the Blazers to waive Roy under this provision. It won't give them any cap space to sign another player, but it will save a bunch of salary and luxury tax. Just watch him sign with the Lakers for exception money as a backup to Kobe and then come back here and kick the Blazers' butts.

 

[e_blazer]

I think they'd have to, looking at the bottom line Brandon makes 16.4 million in the 2012-2013 season. To take even 75% of that off the salary cap would make us available to sign another piece to team with LaMarcus for a legitimate attempt at a run during his prime (and since I am an eternal optimist also Greg's if he resigns).

If the Blazers plan on keeping Wallace, Felton & Batum, there won't be any cap space available to sign anybody even if the Blazers do waive Roy. It will only save Paul Allen money.

 

[THE HCP]

NBA labor talks have been going for 4 1/2 hours today so far, bringing total to 29 hours over 3 days. And they're still at it.

 

[THE HCP]

#NBA commissioner David Stern is day-to-day with flu-like symptoms

 

[SlyPokerDog]

According to StoryTellersContracts.com, Portland Trail Blazers guard Brandon Roy is on the books for $15.0 million in 2011-2012, $16.5 million in 2012-2013, $17.9 million in 2013-2014 and $19.3 million in 2014-2015 (only $14.5 million guaranteed, as noted by Storyteller).

If the Blazers used an amnesty clause to receive 75 percent relief on Roy's salary, his cap number for those years would be reduced to roughly: $3.8 million in 2011-2012, $4.1 million in 2012-2013, $4.5 million in 2013-2014 and $3.6 million in 2014-2015.

This would equate to an average of roughly $13.2 million in cap relief per season and at least $50 million of relief over the four seasons together, with the potential for further savings on their luxury tax bill for any year Roy's mini-max contract would have helped push them over the luxury tax line.

While waiving Roy under such a proposal would still cost owner Paul Allen roughly $64 million plus the cost of finding a player to replace him in the rotation, it would provide significant cap relief over the next four seasons.

http://www.blazersedge.com/

 

[illmatic99]

fuck.

 

[illmatic99]

No one else saw Woj's tweets?

Talks on a 50-50 BRI split broke down, and labor talks have ended, source tells Y! No new meetings scheduled. Huge setback in this lockout.

Negotiations have broken off in New York and no new meetings are scheduled, league source tells Y! Sports

 

[Blazinaway]

well it does seem we are getting close to a possible deal, I am happy about that but won't get let out a big GO BLAZERS until we have some confirmation. As far as Roy goes IMO he's a goner if the amnesty proposal is as outlined in recent posts