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Or maybe Hunter and Co did not understand the proposals from yesterday and felt that way once their economist told them about it today.
 
B.Hunter said players did not move off asking for 52.5 percent on BRI split, and owners pulled 50/50 offer and went back to 47 percent.
 
Why get the milk for free when you can buy the cow?
 
Mannix


Someone was going to have to make a major concession for this deal to get done. Despite brief stretch of goodwill, in the end no one did.
 
@AschNBA: Derek Fisher told me he's flying out to L.A. tonight. So weekend resumption of talks looks like no-go.
 
@alanhahn: Hunter also said media was "snookered" by Stern's smiles and optimism last night. Players who were here for NBPA flying home.
 
Mannix


Waves of frustrated texts coming in from coaches/execs/support staff. Genuine belief there was a deal to be made this weekend.
 
Aldridge


Union looking for lux tax payees to be able to still use exceptions to sign FAs.
 
Woj


Privately, owners saying union left impression they would accept 50-50 if system issues were resolved, and that's why NBA returned to talks.
 
After talking to the media, Fisher and Hunter huddled for some time in a quiet hallway. Plenty to discuss.
 
Mannix


Have to believe sides will be back at the table, likely early next week. Too much work has been done to just walk away now.
 
Fuck em both.
 
KBergCBS


It was the players' impression that league would move on BRI split. Owners believed players would. Thus, kablooey.
 
I think 50/50 is fair and i think that if you are over the Cap you should not be able to sign more mid level players. So i am on the owners side there.

I probably lean towards the players when it comes to the hard cap and the luxory tax penalties.
 
KBergCBS


Based on Hunter's account, corroborated by sources, league characterized its position on players' share as 47, but willing to go to 50.
 
Remember the semantics kids. #NBA not really canceling games, they're canceling "time". November was gone already. Meaningless announcement.
 
Hunter said nothing changed from "take it or leave it" on 50-50 last week. "We told them we're leaving it, just like we left it before."
 
So, #NBA players will lose roughly $170 million in salary today ($340M total) as another 2 weeks gets canceled
 
HCP said:
Hunter said nothing changed from "take it or leave it" on 50-50 last week. "We told them we're leaving it, just like we left it before."
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That was an EGO statement. These guys all have huge egos. Both the owners and the players. It helps in their line of work, but it hurts in negotiations. At least for the fans.
 
I'm a basketball fanatic so I'll definetely come back to follow teams and watch the NBA on TV regardless.

But this has pissed me off enough to where I don't want to put down even $1 for tickets. I used to buy a few $100+ tickets a year but I won't be this next season. Just assume leave the Rose Garden empty. Rather not see my money directly going to either players or owners.

I do hope we at least get a 50 game season out of the deal, but I really don't care terribly much until football ends.
 
The owners should come out publicly and say for every percentage point under 50% BRI we will reduce ticket prices by 5%.

The players would agree to 50% immediately.
 
Paul Coro: For more discouraging news, Stern said the NBA's next offer will reflect the losses that are starting to pile up. Gloom and doom is back.

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Owners being dicks because they have all the leverage
 
Billy Hunter - "We don't want a hard cap."

Fuck. This is something I actually want to see.
 
Lockout continues. No Bulls this season.
 
Sounds like Billy Hunter is saying players made a lot of concessions on system issues but owners still wouldn't move on BRI.

Leverage.....leverage.....
 
Stern said labor relations committee met by phone after talks broke off. That's why it took him so long to appear at news conference.
 
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