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Fisher: "Today wasn't about voting. ... Today was about getting a feel from our players."
 
Billy Hunter says David Stern can expect a call hoping to inspire new talks. His board is authorized to move on BRI with system wins.
 
Hunter: "Our players are impacted by the articles are written from the media."
 
Hunter: "It's not about [the BRI split]. It's about the system."
 
Hunter said "very little" discussion about decertification.
 
Hunter says he's hearing through "underground" that if no deal by 5 p.m., NBA will cancel games through Christmas.
 
Hunter says decertification is "not a worthwhile endeavor" and "not something the players here want to do."
 
Players willing to move on BRI with system changes might be a conversation starter. We'll see how NBA responds.
 
Hunter: "I anticipate we will have a meeting (with NBA) before 5 o'clock tomorrow."
 
Hunter says NBPA is still waiting for NLRB decision to "fall into place."
 
Again, if the players can move on BRI, and the owners are willing to move on system issues, this should get done
 
NBA players think that Stern is bluffing in saying that the offer will only get worse. I think that's a bad bet.
 
Hunter says changes that need to be made in league's proposal "goes beyond tweaks."
 
Hunter says sign-and-trade, mid-level exception, the tax cliff and the escrow are the major issues.
 
Fisher says there has to be significant change in league's proposal on those issues for a deal to be made.
 
Prepare for several more "rogue NBA players" to break from the ranks tomorrow. It's going to get really ugly.
 
Hunter: 5 major issues: repeater tax, escrow, sign and trade restrictions, "cliff" for teams that go into tax, mid-level for tax payers.
 
Fisher: We've made the compromises on BRI and economics. Now it's on the NBA to make compromises on the system points.
 
Hunter: "I'm convinced the [NBA] will come back and do a 50-50 deal."
 
Hunter: "I would give (Michael Jordan) the advice he gave Abe Pollin."
 
Billy Hunter is not taking David Stern's threat seriously, saying he expects that 50/50 offer will linger
 
Fisher: "The current deal on the table is a bad deal."
 
Fisher: we have every demographic/market represented here..the consenus is the same: there isn't one player who wants to take a bad deal.
 
tribjazz: Fisher: "We proposed a six-year term on the [CBA] with the possibility of even a three- or four-year opt out for both sides."
 
Fisher: "They've insisted on the 10-year deal."
 
Fisher on risks of NBA deal getting worse and decertification movement: "We're focused on what we can control."
 
Hunter says league has 450 players, not everyone is going to agree. But says union is convince "the vast majority" support their position.
 
HCP said:
Fisher: They don't want to be told where they have to work, and under what conditions ...there are things in system not up for discussion...
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That one stood out to me while listening. They want flexibity to move to what ever market they want. And that obviously helps the bigger and warmer markets.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
That one stood out to me while listening. They want flexibity to move to what ever market they want. And that obviously helps the bigger and warmer markets.
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That stood out to me as well. They basically want their cake and eat it to.
 
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