The Paul Ryan Interview NBC Never Aired

[PapaG]

[video=youtube;dHSPM2SoO0M]

 

[julius]

the media edit things and don't show everything!?

youre fuckin' kidding!

 

[PapaG]

the media edit things and don't show everything!?

youre fuckin' kidding!

Showing nothing =/ selective editing. I understand why NBC didn't show it, because it destroys the "objectivity" of the so-called fact-checkers. The entire interview is the weasel Williams trying to get a "gotcha" moment from a guy who is miles ahead of him intellectually. It's hilarious.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

 

[julius]

Showing nothing =/ selective editing. I understand why NBC didn't show it, because it destroys the "objectivity" of the so-called fact-checkers. The entire interview is the weasel Williams trying to get a "gotcha" moment from a guy who is miles ahead of him intellectually. It's hilarious.

good thing NBC is the only network or news show that A: does this practice and B: controls the fact checkers

 

[maxiep]

Neither Paul Ryan nor Mitt Romney are going to get a fair shake from some networks, so they're simply going to have to figure out a way to go over the heads of the media.

By the way, how great is it to hear a candidate speak who actually understands the budget? One of the things I loved about Clinton on many policies was how in the weeds he would get. He would certainly spin things his way, but you had a sense he knew the topics about which he was speaking. I look at our current President and I don't have that same confidence.

 

[jlprk]

NBC tried to help him by not showing that boring interview. Ryan kept trying to talk over the interviewer. If you want something electrifying, try this.

http://sportstwo.com/threads/221203-DNC?p=2856034&viewfull=1#post2856034

 

[Masbee]

Neither Paul Ryan nor Mitt Romney are going to get a fair shake from some networks, so they're simply going to have to figure out a way to go over the heads of the media.

By the way, how great is it to hear a candidate speak who actually understands the budget? One of the things I loved about Clinton on many policies was how in the weeds he would get. He would certainly spin things his way, but you had a sense he knew the topics about which he was speaking. I look at our current President and I don't have that same confidence.

Clinton was/is a wonk.

Paul Ryan is like that as well.

Obama was portrayed and sold as a wonk, but he has turned out not to be.

Physically, there is no way he could be - the dude just spends way too much time playing basketball, golf and other games and watching sports.

His current information can only be mostly superficial. If you don't read massive amounts of reports, you can't keep up or be current.

Obama has turned out to be pretty bad combination of someone who is very confident that they know more than most everyone else in the room, when if fact, that is the furthest thing from the truth.

Bush, for all his many, many, many faults, never fell into that trap. Sure he was the "decider", he knew someone had to make a decision, but he didn't presume to know all about everything.

 

[jlprk]

The Chief Decision-Maker didn't even know about the word "decision-maker."

...and some people defend his intelligence...

 

[julius]

Neither Paul Ryan nor Mitt Romney are going to get a fair shake from some networks, so they're simply going to have to figure out a way to go over the heads of the media.

waaaaaaaaaaaah

 

[MARIS61]

Since the interview is simply more lies by Ryan and highlights the fact that he has stonewalled every attempt for progress for the last 3 years, and he calls Romney "Mort", I'd say they just didn't want to rub salt in his wounds.

 

[maxiep]

waaaaaaaaaaaah

Why are you crying? I merely identified a problem they have. Do you disagree with my contention?

 

[MARIS61]

Do you disagree with my contention?

Yep.

 

[Masbee]

The Chief Decision-Maker didn't even know about the word "decision-maker."

...and some people defend his intelligence...

What a bunch of horseshit.

From the Washington Post:

examined President Obama’s schedule from the day he took office until mid-June 2012, to see how often he attended his Presidential Daily Brief (PDB) — the meeting at which he is briefed on the most critical intelligence threats to the country. During his first 1,225 days in office, Obama attended his PDB just 536 times — or 43.8 percent of the time. During 2011 and the first half of 2012, his attendance became even less frequent — falling to just over 38 percent. By contrast, Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush almost never missed his daily intelligence meeting.​

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...24afe8-fb49-11e1-b153-218509a954e1_story.html
Obama the would-be wonk, can't be bothered to attend "school" every day. Of course, that is because he is so fucking brilliant (according to the majority of the press) that he has all data in the world downloaded into his brain each night, so he can skip the meetings and play golf instead.​

 

[MickZagger]

What a bunch of horseshit.

From the Washington Post:

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...24afe8-fb49-11e1-b153-218509a954e1_story.html
Obama the would-be wonk, can't be bothered to attend "school" every day. Of course, that is because he is so fucking brilliant (according to the majority of the press) that he has all data in the world downloaded into his brain each night, so he can skip the meetings and play golf instead.[/LEFT]

Arghhhh always so angry all the time!

 

[julius]

Why are you crying? I merely identified a problem they have. Do you disagree with my contention?

yes I do.

poor ole mitt and paul, they're tweeted so bad by the big ole mean liberal media!

 

[MickZagger]

yes I do.

poor ole mitt and paul, they're tweeted so bad by the big ole mean liberal media!

 

[maxiep]

yes I do.

poor ole mitt and paul, they're tweeted so bad by the big ole mean liberal media!

If you believe the media doesn't have a largely liberal bent, I don't know what to tell you. We'll just agree to disagree.

As for Gov. Romney and Rep. Ryan, I'm not feeling sorry for them in the least. Those are the rules of the game. They know it and have to find a way to deal with the reality. Just like when you play the L*kers, you need to understand sometimes it's 8 on 5; when you hold right-of-center positions, you have to understand that you won't always get a fair hearing. It's not intentional; the media's worldview that taints their assumptions.

 

[jlprk]

What a bunch of horseshit.

From the Washington Post:

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...24afe8-fb49-11e1-b153-218509a954e1_story.html
Obama the would-be wonk, can't be bothered to attend "school" every day. Of course, that is because he is so fucking brilliant (according to the majority of the press) that he has all data in the world downloaded into his brain each night, so he can skip the meetings and play golf instead.[/LEFT]

Interesting new algorithm to calculate IQ. How about attendance at your National Guard job during the Vietnam War?

If you believe the media doesn't have a largely liberal bent, I don't know what to tell you. We'll just agree to disagree.

As for Gov. Romney and Rep. Ryan, I'm not feeling sorry for them in the least. Those are the rules of the game. They know it and have to find a way to deal with the reality. Just like when you play the L*kers, you need to understand sometimes it's 8 on 5; when you hold right-of-center positions, you have to understand that you won't always get a fair hearing. It's not intentional; the media's worldview that taints their assumptions.

How does Denny dominate this board with a plethora of conservative articles? Does he write them himself?

 

[MARIS61]

What a bunch of horseshit.

From the Washington Post:

[/COLOR]examined President Obama’s schedule from the day he took office until mid-June 2012, to see how often he attended his Presidential Daily Brief (PDB) — the meeting at which he is briefed on the most critical intelligence threats to the country. During his first 1,225 days in office, Obama attended his PDB just 536 times — or 43.8 percent of the time. During 2011 and the first half of 2012, his attendance became even less frequent — falling to just over 38 percent. By contrast, Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush almost never missed his daily intelligence meeting.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...24afe8-fb49-11e1-b153-218509a954e1_story.html


Obama the would-be wonk, can't be bothered to attend "school" every day. Of course, that is because he is so fucking brilliant (according to the majority of the press) that he has all data in the world downloaded into his brain each night, so he can skip the meetings and play golf instead.[/LEFT]

You've now established presidents attending daily briefings as a likely cause for the recession. No wonder Obama avoids them.

 

[Masbee]

You've now established presidents attending daily briefings as a likely cause for the recession. No wonder Obama avoids them.

And you just established that:

You don't bother reading;

You don't comprehend;

And, you are just a troll.

These were not economic meetings genius.

The report on how little Obama spent on economic meetings is here:

http://g-a-i.org/wp-content/uploads...-Economic-Meetings-A-Time-Based-Analysis2.pdf

Hint: more time spent golfing than in economic meetings during the worst financial crisis in the U.S. since the Great Depression.

But, go ahead, keep defending this guy. He needs all the help he can get.

 

[MickZagger]

But, go ahead, keep defending this guy. He needs all the help he can get.

The polls don't agree with you, genius

 

[Eastoff]

If you believe the media doesn't have a largely liberal bent, I don't know what to tell you. We'll just agree to disagree.

As for Gov. Romney and Rep. Ryan, I'm not feeling sorry for them in the least. Those are the rules of the game. They know it and have to find a way to deal with the reality. Just like when you play the L*kers, you need to understand sometimes it's 8 on 5; when you hold right-of-center positions, you have to understand that you won't always get a fair hearing. It's not intentional; the media's worldview that taints their assumptions.

I'm just curious why everyone thinks this way. I mean, if anything shouldn't the media have a right-wing agenda? I mean they are owned by huge corporations that would prefer to have fiscally conservatives in office.

 

[Masbee]

The polls don't agree with you, genius

I don't care what other people think,

I KNOW Obama has failed.

He has failed my metric, he has failed his own metric. His own words half admitted he has failed.

What more do you need. A club over the head?

 

[MickZagger]

I don't care what other people think,

I KNOW Obama has failed.

He has failed my metric, he has failed his own metric. His own words half admitted he has failed.

What more do you need. A club over the head?

Why are you always so belligerent? Even when discussing basketball.

The auto industry, the Taliban and thousands of American's that have better health care disagree.

 

[maxiep]

I'm just curious why everyone thinks this way. I mean, if anything shouldn't the media have a right-wing agenda? I mean they are owned by huge corporations that would prefer to have fiscally conservatives in office.

It's not the corporations, it's the journalists. Corporations care about profits, not ideology. Individuals are different. The profession is largely self-selecting. Those that choose journalism tend to be left of center. I don't think it's intentional. It's tough to fight your biases. I don't want to spend too much time trying to find the studies I read, but here's a webpage with links and data: http://archive.mrc.org/biasbasics/biasbasics3.asp What's unfortunate about the page I selected is the entire site is based on "media bias". That fact notwithstanding, it does provide some interesting data.

However, decide for yourself

 

[MARIS61]

Why are you (Masbee) always so belligerent? Even when discussing basketball.

The auto industry, the Taliban and thousands of American's that have better health care disagree.

There's your answer. Masbee hates American workers, supports the Taliban, wants Real Americans to die from lack of basic healthcare. That's really the only logical conclusion one can reach from his over the top attacks which seem to come out of nowhere for no reason.

Either that or he's just plain

 

[Denny Crane]

Everyone should have health insurance. When the doctors go on strike, the people will still have their insurance. Insurance is clearly the most important thing in keeping people from dying when they have a critical condition.

/sarcasm

(yet this is what people argue for and say is really important)

 

[MARIS61]

Everyone should have health insurance. When the doctors go on strike, the people will still have their insurance. Insurance is clearly the most important thing in keeping people from dying when they have a critical condition.

/sarcasm

(yet this is what people argue for and say is really important)

Health insurance should be outlawed.

It's the chief reason healthcare is unafforable.

An enormous but completely unnecessary industry which serves no useful purpose, sucking the lifeblood (literally) of Real Americans.

 

[MARIS61]

From that bastion of left-wing media propaganda, FOX NEWS...

On the other hand, to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to facts, Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech....

Fact: While Ryan tried to pin the downgrade of the United States’ credit rating on spending under President Obama, the credit rating was actually downgraded because Republicans threatened not to raise the debt ceiling.

Fact: While Ryan blamed President Obama for the shut down of a GM plant in Janesville, Wisconsin, the plant was actually closed under President George W. Bush. Ryan actually asked for federal spending to save the plant, while Romney has criticized the auto industry bailout that President Obama ultimately enacted to prevent other plants from closing.

Fact: Though Ryan insisted that President Obama wants to give all the credit for private sector success to government, that isn't what the president said. Period.

Fact: Though Paul Ryan accused President Obama of taking $716 billion out of Medicare, the fact is that that amount was savings in Medicare reimbursement rates (which, incidentally, save Medicare recipients out-of-pocket costs, too) and Ryan himself embraced these savings in his budget plan.

Elections should be about competing based on your record in the past and your vision for the future, not competing to see who can get away with the most lies and distortions without voters noticing or bother to care. Both parties should hold themselves to that standard. Republicans should be ashamed that there was even one misrepresentation in Ryan’s speech but sadly, there were many.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/30/paul-ryans-speech-in-three-words/#ixzz26DyQ1Na0