Politics The Postal Service, Voting, and Covid

[riverman]

Well, I never said that. I said that most of the posters here more than likely spend much more time with left-wing media, than media outside of that. If that's wrong than ok, I'm wrong.
I don't think wiz is stupid, or uninformed, or 'shallow', in fact probably the opposite of that. We just very much disagree about things, and yeah I'd venture to guess that he does spend much more time listening to media types that agree with his POV's than otherwise. I probably do too, though I try to listen to media from all over the political spectrum.

I've said a bunch of times that I'll vote libertarian again for president and probably independent in other elections...

I voted for small govt last election because I want govt to do a basically functional albeit boring job of running the budget and agencies so that I don't have to spend time thinking about govt....The GOP has taken that completely out of the equation....because of their recent incompetence I cannot travel safely or even shop safely with my heart issues....yeah...and the longer they deny safe practices the longer I am in self imposed quarantine....these things tend to change the political landscape a bit. The GOP has made the whole country have no choice but to question the lack of leadership and dishonesty we face right now...gloves are off

 

[CupWizier]

My reference was to your alluding to S2 forum members as being shallow, one sided uninformed left wing parrots......all owned by the media and its left leaning newsreels...I take exception to that..I think the news is fueled by current events and the AP feed has nothing to do with left or right but editorials tend to show that bias....after all this propping up of dislike for bipartisan govt...are you obstaining from the election?

That's just it, if anyone needs proof of what trump is like as a president, just listen to him and all his lies. I feel I am intelligent enough to decipher bullshit from truth and just because a reporter writes a negative story about trump doesn't make that person a "left leaner", a lot of it is the truth. The fact checkers have severely exposed trump and fact checking isn't just a partisan act.

 

[riverman]

That's just it, if anyone needs proof of what trump is like as a president, just listen to him and all his lies. I feel I am intelligent enough to decipher bullshit from truth and just because a reporter writes a negative story about trump doesn't make that person a "left leaner", a lot of it is the truth. The fact checkers have severely exposed trump and fact checking isn't just a partisan act.

Trump has coined the "fake news" defense since elected....it's how he continues to lie without being held accountable...

 

[Hoopguru]

and what makes you think she would be a better president? It's hard for a president to get much accomplished without the support of the senate and/or house.

Not any more they just execute executive orders, both Obama & Trump. When Obama lost majority thats what he did same with Donny.

 

[riverman]

Not any more they just execute executive orders, both Obama & Trump. When Obama lost majority thats what he did same with Donny.

Obama tried to get a Supreme Court appointee for a year his last year in office and the GOP stonewalled him all the way...one judge....Trump has packed the courts...for conservatives that's the only win they get from Trump's fake presidency

 

[Hoopguru]

Obama tried to get a Supreme Court appointee for a year his last year in office and the GOP stonewalled him all the way...one judge....Trump has packed the courts...for conservatives that's the only win they get from Trump's fake presidency[/QUOT Thats true but they both used executive orders to get around congress. The
precedent has been set so I would expect more of it in the future too.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I voted for small govt last election because I want govt to do a basically functional albeit boring job of running the budget and agencies so that I don't have to spend time thinking about govt....The GOP has taken that completely out of the equation....because of their recent incompetence I cannot travel safely or even shop safely with my heart issues....yeah...and the longer they deny safe practices the longer I am in self imposed quarantine....these things tend to change the political landscape a bit. The GOP has made the whole country have no choice but to question the lack of leadership and dishonesty we face right now...gloves are off

I cannot in good conscience vote for a Democrat or a Republican, I may have been willing to listen about Yang or Bernie because I thought they had different idea's and I had criticisms of both of them, but I think Bernie, especially in 2016, had a decent track record of doing what he preached even if I disagreed with him on some of his ideas/plans. I'm going to vote based on my thoughts, opinions, values, and I accept that I could be wrong. I don't hate individuals in either party, I do have a very strong dislike or "hate" if you want, of the Democrat and Republican Elites and how they manipulate people. If you feel strongly you have to vote for Biden then you should. I'd encourage people to vote their conscience.
Edit: I kind of Liked Pete too maybe in 4-8 years he can try again, I would need to actually go study up on him more though.

 

[riverman]

I cannot in good conscience vote for a Democrat or a Republican, I may have been willing to listen about Yang or Bernie because I thought they had different idea's and I had criticisms of both of them, but I think Bernie, especially in 2016, had a decent track record of doing what he preached even if I disagreed with him on some of his ideas/plans. I'm going to vote based on my thoughts, opinions, values, and I accept that I could be wrong. I don't hate individuals in either party, I do have a very strong dislike or "hate" if you want, of the Democrat and Republican Elites and how they manipulate people. If you feel strongly you have to vote for Biden then you should. I'd encourage people to vote their conscience.

I wanted Yang from the start but not badly enough to watch Trump win....my feeling now is that for the health of the country we all need to send Trump packing as soon as possible...I encourage that from all camps...Joe was my last choice from the democratic field but Harris helps....I want younger leadership moving ahead...that isn't an option this time. This election isn't about me...it's about the future generations of my family....

 

[CupWizier]

Not any more they just execute executive orders, both Obama & Trump. When Obama lost majority thats what he did same with Donny.

Executive orders don't cover everything and congress needs to be involved to pass major bills.

 

[Hoopguru]

Executive orders don't cover everything and congress needs to be involved to pass major bills.

agree, put I'm not that optimistic that future bi partisanship will prevail enough with congress to compromise. Its winner take all or nothing it seems now.

 

[Lanny]

So you trust both sides except in all the occasions where you don't.

There are individuals I trust who call themselves Democrats and Republicans. The elites (for lack of a better term at the moment) of Republicans and Democrats I do not trust and there seems to be way more evidence out there to suggest they shouldn't be trusted than there is that they should be. Not just with the elections themselves but the actions of those who have won offices.

No, I'm saying that whatever voter fraud there is so is so tiny, so insignificant, virtually zero that to even dwell on it borders on stupid. I'm sure there are people who might fraudulently vote if the penalty was less but even then there's just no incentive for significant numbers of people to fraudulently vote. So, we have no evidence that any fraudulently voting is anywhere near significant enough to effect even the vote for dog catcher of a tiny town and there is no incentive to do so.
This is why I'm continually amazed that anyone would continue bringing the subject up.
The only thing I fear is the sleazy attempt by Republicans to disenfranchise voters of color on made up crap that should have been relegated to the dust heap years ago by even the most brief thinking.

 

[Lanny]

agree, put I'm not that optimistic that future bi partisanship will prevail enough with congress to compromise. Its winner take all or nothing it seems now.

Two points:
1. Without Trump calling the shots in primaries, I predict that Republicans will return to a more normal mode in the future;
2. This January, you're going to see an entire Congress working together to get things done and most of the Trump damage repaired,. which sadly, will be done with or without bipartisan support. However, there will be a slow return to bipartisanship begining with the tossing out of Trump in January.

 

[Hoopguru]

Two points:
1. Without Trump calling the shots in primaries, I predict that Republicans will return to a more normal mode in the future;
2. This January, you're going to see an entire Congress working together to get things done and most of the Trump damage repaired,. which sadly, will be done with or without bipartisan support. However, there will be a slow return to bipartisanship begining with the tossing out of Trump in January.

Didn't happen under Obama in second term when republicans had majority. I hope so, but with the progressives putting so much pressure on the democratic party Im not sure its all going to being across isle chummy lets work together.
I will be a mazed if it is because it really hasn't been that for a while. Its like years ago, marriages would stay together because of the kids and try and work thing out, that doesn't happen much anymore.

 

[Lanny]

Didn't happen under Obama in second term when republicans had majority. I hope so, but with the progressives putting so much pressure on the democratic party Im not sure its all going to being across isle chummy lets work together.
I will be a mazed if it is because it really hasn't been that for a while. Its like years ago, marriages would stay together because of the kids and try and work thing out, that doesn't happen much anymore.

Obama had a lot of "Blue Nosed" Democrats who won't be there in January. Plus, even the Blue Nosed Democrats supported Obama Care.

 

[Road Ratt]

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[THE HCP]

Right now as I’m chilling at the neighborhood Starbucks, this guy in plain clothes took away this mailbox right on the corner...... no uniform, nothing. Just walked up, unscrewed the bolts on the bottom and took it away. A couple walking by started asking him questions. Just so confused by all of this.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Right now as I’m chilling at the neighborhood Starbucks, this guy in plain clothes took away this mailbox right on the corner...... no uniform, nothing. Just walked up, unscrewed the bolts on the bottom and took it away. A couple walking by started asking him questions. Just so confused by all of this.

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Pics? Video?

 

[Chris Craig]

Right now as I’m chilling at the neighborhood Starbucks, this guy in plain clothes took away this mailbox right on the corner...... no uniform, nothing. Just walked up, unscrewed the bolts on the bottom and took it away. A couple walking by started asking him questions. Just so confused by all of this.

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The only way Trump can win is if he cheats.

 

[andalusian]

The only way Trump can win is if he cheats.

It worked for him before...

 

[riverman]

Looks like Pelosi has pressured the GOP to walk back their anti USPS and fund it for something like 28 billion....the statement that stumped the GOP was the the USPS is a service, not a business for profit.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[CupWizier]

Didn't happen under Obama in second term when republicans had majority. I hope so, but with the progressives putting so much pressure on the democratic party Im not sure its all going to being across isle chummy lets work together.
I will be a mazed if it is because it really hasn't been that for a while. Its like years ago, marriages would stay together because of the kids and try and work thing out, that doesn't happen much anymore.

Just like bills aren't being passed in the senate because of trump and McConnell. Get rid of those two douche bags and things would become a lot more simpler. Moscow Mitch even bragged that his whole purpose was to make sure Obama didn't get his bills passed. There are literally hundreds of bills passed by the house that the senate has been sitting on for a long time. To me that's obstruction of justice.

 

[riverman]

Congress stimulus package has been complete for over 2 months now....the GOP is standing back and watching people die now at a 1K a day clip so that they could kill off the USPS and steal the election....one of the stumbling blocks in passing Congress package was funding for the USPS....the other was them not wanting to fund the wall along with the stimulus.....one of these things is important, the other is not...republicans need to .stop stalling relief aimed at the working class in favor of the elite wealthy corporations

 

[riverman]

Right now as I’m chilling at the neighborhood Starbucks, this guy in plain clothes took away this mailbox right on the corner...... no uniform, nothing. Just walked up, unscrewed the bolts on the bottom and took it away. A couple walking by started asking him questions. Just so confused by all of this.

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selling scrap metal is a big thing....one of my neighbors lost his well pump and all the copper wiring around his property when he was traveling...all sold for scrap I'm guessing.

 

[Hoopguru]

Just like bills aren't being passed in the senate because of trump and McConnell. Get rid of those two douche bags and things would become a lot more simpler. Moscow Mitch even bragged that his whole purpose was to make sure Obama didn't get his bills passed. There are literally hundreds of bills passed by the house that the senate has been sitting on for a long time. To me that's obstruction of justice.

I know, I sure hope it isn’t used much in the future by either side as congress needs to do their job.
With a Pres able to just do an executive order just prevents congress from doing there job.
Parties must get away from either our way or no way.

 

[riverman]

If you have a mailbox do the mail carrier a favor and clean it regularly...especially the handle...they appreciate it...when I go pick up my mail I take some sanitizer and a handiwipe with me and wipe it down

 

[CupWizier]

I know, I sure hope it isn’t used much in the future by either side as congress needs to do their job.
With a Pres able to just do an executive order just prevents congress from doing there job.
Parties must get away from either our way or no way.

Executive orders are can be very limited and often times only temporary until a bill can actually be passed. trump uses them like "do anything I want card". At least with trump he has exposed several areas of corruption that congress will need to address to get government more in control and operate like it is suppose to.

 

[Lanny]

If you have a mailbox do the mail carrier a favor and clean it regularly...especially the handle...they appreciate it...when I go pick up my mail I take some sanitizer and a handiwipe with me and wipe it down

I use to go around my neighborhood spraying weed killer on all the weeds growing out of the cracks in the road and sidewalks. Use to also take care of the weeds under our community locking mailbox.

 

[BigGameDamian]