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HailBlazers said:
I'd personally rather hear criticism of the team and banter thereof than criticism of others flavor of fandom. If they weren't 'fans' they wouldn't be here wasting their time discussing all things Blazer's.
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Being critical of the team and constantly degrading the accomplishments is not the same thing.
 
I was thinking about the original basis for this thread and, assuming that Olshey was all in on this type of strategy, I was wondering who would be the Blazers' version of Kawhi Leonard this summer. So, the obvious choice would be Anthony Davis, and he's one guy that I could really get excited about making a run at. But let's be real and assume that he's either going to be a Laker, a Celtic, or is going to remain with the Pelicans. What other disgruntled superstar is out there that the Blazers could realistically make a move to acquire?
 
e_blazer said:
I was thinking about the original basis for this thread and, assuming that Olshey was all in on this type of strategy, I was wondering who would be the Blazers' version of Kawhi Leonard this summer. So, the obvious choice would be Anthony Davis, and he's one guy that I could really get excited about making a run at. But let's be real and assume that he's either going to be a Laker, a Celtic, or is going to remain with the Pelicans. What other disgruntled superstar is out there that the Blazers could realistically make a move to acquire?
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Neither Jimmy nor Blake are disgruntled. But I want us to pursue them. Davis would be unbelievable, but Neil isn't gonna give away the pieces needed to make that happen.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Neither Jimmy nor Blake are disgruntled. But I want us to pursue them. Davis would be unbelievable, but Neil isn't gonna give away the pieces needed to make that happen.
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Those guys are definitely a tier down from the likes of Leonard, but they'd be worth considering. Blake has a long history of his body breaking down at the end of the season so I certainly wouldn't give up one of our core guys (Dame, CJ, and Nurk) for him. Might be a deal with some of our other assets if the Pistons are of a mind to cut costs. As far as Butler goes, I love his game, but definitely not his head. You know that the Sixers would want CJ in exchange for him. No dice as far as I'm concerned.
 
Trade CJ, Collins, and our first rounder for Anthony Davis.

I don't think Boston gives up Tatum (too risky knowing that AD may not stay and they're already losing Kyrie in all likelihood). I'm willing to bet the Pelicans reject any Laker's offer out of spite.

Pelicans now have a core of CJ, Zion, Jrue, Collins, and possibly Randle. That honestly looks like a really solid team. If I was a Pelicans fan, I'd be ecstatic.

Blazers now have true balance. Teams will not be able to pressure Dame like in the past because he's got AD on the elbow. With a healthy Nurk, improving Meyers, resigned Hood, we have a real chance at going all the way. Even if AD leaves, it's worth it! But we also have a year to sell him on staying with awesome home court, amazing fans, Dame's culture setting, yearly contending. Why leave that to join a 36 year old LeBron? I'd roll the dice.
 
twobullz said:
Milwaukie was 40-12 against the east and 20-10 against the west, Boston was 35-17 against the east and 12-16 against the west, Philly was 31-21 against the east and 20-10 against the west. They would all be lower seeds then the Blazers if they played in the west and had to play the west teams more. If I count right only 4 East teams went over 500 against the west. 9 West teams were over 500 against the east.
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FYI: Philly, by those numbers, had a better record against the west than the east

and the facts are that teams who play each other 3 or 4 times a year are more familiar with what the opponent runs. Good teams are going to take advantage of it. Also, those EC records you're highlighting come in part from the East having more teams to fatten the record against. The EC had 5 teams with less than 33 wins, the WC had one. In other words, the bottom dwellers of the WC were more capable of handing losses to EC playoff teams than the reverse

but more than anything else is we know that the regular season records don't mean shit once the playoffs start. Portland was 1-7 against OKC in the RS, and the one win came when Denver rested their starters. But Portland was 8-4 against those two teams in the playoffs
 
Natebishop3 said:
I maintain that the Raptors path to the Finals was much much harder than our path to the WCF.
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Really?? With a full compliment of players?? They should've had it easier IMHO. Their roster is stacked and IMO is much more talented than Milwaukee.

Try doing it without our 2nd best player, our backup (now starting) center has one arm and no water, our 6th man had a hyper-extended knee...

Wait... we did...
 
Hey said:
Trade CJ, Collins, and our first rounder for Anthony Davis.

I don't think Boston gives up Tatum (too risky knowing that AD may not stay and they're already losing Kyrie in all likelihood). I'm willing to bet the Pelicans reject any Laker's offer out of spite.

Pelicans now have a core of CJ, Zion, Jrue, Collins, and possibly Randle. That honestly looks like a really solid team. If I was a Pelicans fan, I'd be ecstatic.

Blazers now have true balance. Teams will not be able to pressure Dame like in the past because he's got AD on the elbow. With a healthy Nurk, improving Meyers, resigned Hood, we have a real chance at going all the way. Even if AD leaves, it's worth it! But we also have a year to sell him on staying with awesome home court, amazing fans, Dame's culture setting, yearly contending. Why leave that to join a 36 year old LeBron? I'd roll the dice.
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If I were the Pelicans I would be angling for that NY pick.

Zion and RJ together? That's what the Pelicans want IMHO.
 
Been reading some Raptors stuff about tickets and their fans are getting priced out for Finals games. They were apparently selling standing room only tickets for > $800, and it all sold out in less than 20 min. I'd venture a guess to say the pricing would be similar if the Finals were in Portland.

Would you guys be willing to drop over a grand to see the Blazers play a finals game in Moda?
 
yuyuza1 said:
Been reading some Raptors stuff about tickets and their fans are getting priced out for Finals games. They were apparently selling standing room only tickets for > $800, and it all sold out in less than 20 min. I'd venture a guess to say the pricing would be similar if the Finals were in Portland.

Would you guys be willing to drop over a grand to see the Blazers play a finals game in Moda?
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Nope. I'd spend the grand on hosting a finals party.

Hell, less than a grand.
 
twobullz said:
Milwaukie was 40-12 against the east and 20-10 against the west, Boston was 35-17 against the east and 12-16 against the west, Philly was 31-21 against the east and 20-10 against the west. They would all be lower seeds then the Blazers if they played in the west and had to play the west teams more. If I count right only 4 East teams went over 500 against the west. 9 West teams were over 500 against the east.
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What a stretch. You cant just extrapolate 35% of the season and act like its the rule.
 
BonesJones said:
What a stretch. You cant just extrapolate 35% of the season and act like its the rule.
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It's definitely not an exact science, but it's enough of a sample size to be able to reasonably predict an outcome. If it was only 5 games or so, then I would agree with you, but it's not.
 
CupWizier said:
It's definitely not an exact science, but it's enough of a sample size to be able to reasonably predict an outcome. If it was only 5 games or so, then I would agree with you, but it's not.
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Oh yeah?
 
What's the point of this thread? Yeah, if you trade for Kawhi Leonard, you have a chance to win a title. Duh. Kawhi wasn't available to us. They weren't trading him to a Western Conference team. And people keep thinking we can get any star we want, if we trade CJ. Meanwhile, CJ torches the Nuggets in Denver in a Game 7.
 
KingSpeed said:
What's the point of this thread? Yeah, if you trade for Kawhi Leonard, you have a chance to win a title. Duh. Kawhi wasn't available to us. They weren't trading him to a Western Conference team. And people keep thinking we can get any star we want, if we trade CJ. Meanwhile, CJ torches the Nuggets in Denver in a Game 7.
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The point of this thread is that if you aren't willing to settle for an average coach and are willing to take the risk of trading one your big name players, then you might be able to improve.
 
OneSport3 said:
The point of this thread is that if you aren't willing to settle for an average coach and are willing to take the risk of trading one your big name players, then you might be able to improve.
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Really the point is that we should never settle and that we should always be striving to improve. Sometimes you have to be willing to take risks, and it doesn't seem like this team is willing to take any big risks right now. We take small risks. Risks that are so small that they're not really risks at all.
 
Take a risk to make that leap into contention.

Neil doesn't have the plums.

The only player that could be a comparable situation is AD.
 
KingSpeed said:
Orlando beat Toronto in Game 1. Orlando is better than Golden State. Toronto in 4?
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Houston won 2 yet Morey is ready to blow things up and make drastic changes because he knows the team as composed is not good enough.

On the other hand, Portland gets swept and Olshey settles for the status quo and extends Stotts and will probably keep CJ.
 
Many in here were against trading CJ+Collins(for example)+a 1st for Kawhi because he wouldn't resign so don't act like you were all for it if we could get him. There was a thread with some trade suggestion from Canzano last May.
 
having a guy on a 1.5m contract this year dropping 30pts n playing out of his skin must be a decent boost.

pascal gets a sweet 2.4 then 3.5m the following i think. hope he gets paid at the end.
 
OneSport3 said:
Houston won 2 yet Morey is ready to blow things up and make drastic changes because he knows the team as composed is not good enough.

On the other hand, Portland gets swept and Olshey settles for the status quo and extends Stotts and will probably keep CJ.
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Morey is trying to make moves because he knows he has to get off of CP3's contract before it completely hamstrings the organization. Next year 90m in their capspace is locked up in Harden/CP3/Capela and with CP3 decline in both play and health there is no better time to try and fleece someone then when they miss out on a big name FA. CP3 might still be near elite next year but the last two years on that contract are both over 40m and I really doubt he will still be playing like an elite PG then and if Morey holds onto him and CP3 play drops there is no getting off that contract without giving up assets which they are lacking at the moment.
 
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